Portugal nixes F35 order cos of trump

[Yagoda]

7 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

Perhaps Portugal is gearing up big time to play a stronger role is supporting Ukraine?

I bet ya Vlad is shaking in his jackboots over that.

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8 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

In this case what does Liberal mean. Why because Liberal now seems to have quite different interpretations. 

Look to the kinds of programs and actions that the MAGA program supports and take the opposite as your guide. The result should be at least 95% accurate.

[Yagoda]

42 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Look to the kinds of programs and actions that the MAGA program supports

Classical Liberalism.

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1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Classical Liberalism.

Typical not getting the point. Scorecard asked for a guide and I offered one to him.

[Liverpool Lou]

21 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

https://mil.in.ua/en/news/unpredictability-of-usa-portugal-rules-out-f-35-fighter-purchase/

 

too unstable to order planes 

According to a Ukrainian media outlet site.

[John Drake]

10 hours ago, Bannoi said:

Turkey just signed a contract for 40 Eurofighter Typhoons and Meteor air -to-air missiles no longer interested in F35's.

 

Trump is losing America not only friends and allies but customers as well.

 

Trump may well think that America can do withoutcustomers outside America but the companies and workers that produce the goods sure as hell do.

 

The US kicked Turkey out of the F35 program years ago. Just recently the Turks were trying to get back in. But they were not part of the program anyway. https://www.ekathimerini.com/politics/foreign-policy/1261246/f-35-window-opens-again-for-turkey/

[candide]

17 hours ago, Ben Zioner said:

Who can brick them anytime he likes. 

 

F35 is a system.

That's the main issue. Countries equipped with F-35 are at the mercy of the U.S. if they want to use it. It may not brick them but at least degrade the system by not providing updates.

[3NUMBAS]

There are worry’s the US won’t share the source code for the F35 ,whereas Sweden is happy to share the source code for its planes,,

 

 

it’s an easy choice now 

 

avoid Villain trump at all costs

[John Drake]

14 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

There are worry’s the US won’t share the source code for the F35 ,whereas Sweden is happy to share the source code for its planes,,

 

 

it’s an easy choice now 

 

avoid Villain trump at all costs

 

Didn't Sweden just sell a bunch of fighters to Thailand? We all know that once something gets into Thailand, it also goes straight to China. That's why the US refused to give Thailand F35s and only wanted to allow them to have relatively safely controlled avionics in updated F16s. China will end up with all the information on vulnerabilities of Swedish jets before most of the European customers ever get delivery.

[candide]

Countries with nuclear sharing agreement under NATO, such as Germany, ordered F-35 because it was the only new generation fighter certified to carry U.S. nuclear bombs. On this aspect, they may well become useless.

 

https://www.eurasiantimes.com/amid-transatlantic-rift-germany-fears-for-its-f-35-order/?amp

 

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/german-policymakers-concerned-american-kill-switch-disable-f35

 

[SLOWHAND225]

21 hours ago, SpaceKadet said:

Right, and how many USD billions lost is for the USA?

Not  America, Boeing is the manufacturer and Portugal should consider themselves lucky. The F35 is a smoldering pile of junk given the cost. 

[SunnyinBangrak]

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

I bet ya Vlad is shaking in his jackboots over that.

They fought their best from galleons.

[transam]

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

I bet ya Vlad is shaking in his jackboots over that.

Probably, though I reckon that would be more to do with his age...........

[Yagoda]

23 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

They fought their best from galleons.

Great navigators. Lots of folks in Rhode Island from the old whaling industry. Great food too. 

[Yagoda]

39 minutes ago, SLOWHAND225 said:

Not  America, Boeing is the manufacturer and Portugal should consider themselves lucky. The F35 is a smoldering pile of junk given the cost. 

Ask the Iranian Air Defense Commanders and the manufacturers of the Russian AD systems.

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1 hour ago, SLOWHAND225 said:

Not  America, Boeing is the manufacturer and Portugal should consider themselves lucky. The F35 is a smoldering pile of junk given the cost. 

If that's the case, and it's not a loss for America, I guess you believe that the balance of payments and the loss of US jobs doesn't matter. So why exactly is Trump imposing tariffs?

[SpaceKadet]

IMO the old saying that "War is good for business" should be amended with "but not for American business"...