Freedom House

[Robert_Smith]

https://freedomhouse.org/

 

Check out the 'Freedom Map' and click on any country and read the annual report.

 

You may just learn something.

 

regards,

bob.

[Harrisfan]

Map claims socialist nations are free 55555

[Robert_Smith]

Just now, Harrisfan said:

Map claims socialist nations are free 55555

...which ones?

 

bob.

[Harrisfan]

Just now, Robert_Smith said:

...which ones?

 

bob.

Most of South America and Australia. These nations are left wing.

[Robert_Smith]

Just because the politics of the day may be left-leaning does not mean they are socialist countries.

 

That is not true.

 

The majority of countries in SA have democracy and so does AU.

 

bob.

[Harrisfan]

Just now, Robert_Smith said:

Just because the politics of the day may be left-leaning does not mean they are socialist countries.

 

That is not true.

 

The majority of countries in SA have democracy and so does AU.

 

bob.

Thailand has less freedom? 55555

Buy beer in 7/11

Buy drugs over the counter

Drive or ride without a licence

Buy pot in shops

Buy bargirls

 

[Robert_Smith]

6 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Thailand has less freedom? 55555

Buy beer in 7/11

Buy drugs over the counter

Drive or ride without a licence

Buy pot in shops

Buy bargirls

 

I don't think Freedom House are considering these issues when writing their annual reports.

 

If you really want to know what they are focused on, then go ahead and read the full report on Thailand for yourself...

 

bob.

[Callmeishmael]

^^ Lack of law enforcement looks a lot like freedom, but it isn't really the same.

[Harrisfan]

1 minute ago, Robert_Smith said:

I don't think Freedom House are considering these issues when writing their annual reports.

 

If you really want to know what they are focused on, then go ahead and read the full report on Thailand for yourself...

 

bob.

Day to day issues. I can smoke pot, buy pharma drugs then get beer from 7/11 then drive drunk. How is that not freedom?

 

 

[Robert_Smith]

2 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Day to day issues. I can smoke pot, buy pharma drugs then get beer from 7/11 then drive drunk. How is that not freedom?

 

 

Sorry, Harrisfan, but I don't think we are on the same page.

 

Let's just agree to disagree.

 

bob.

[Harrisfan]

Just now, Robert_Smith said:

Sorry, Harrisfan, but I don't think we are on the same page.

 

Let's just agree to disagree.

 

bob.

Go to these"free" nations and drive drunk and stoned.

[Robert_Smith]

3 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Go to these"free" nations and drive drunk and stoned.

So that's what freedom is to you??

 

got ya, ok, fair enough.

 

I accept your perspective.

 

bob.

[Harrisfan]

6 minutes ago, Robert_Smith said:

So that's what freedom is to you??

 

got ya, ok, fair enough.

 

I accept your perspective.

 

bob.

What is freedom to you? 

[bubblegum]

42 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Go to these"free" nations and drive drunk and stoned.

Try that in your beloved Trumpistan and see how that works out. TROLL

[Harrisfan]

16 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

Try that in your beloved Trumpistan and see how that works out. TROLL

What are you on about lefty troll boy? I just said Thailand has more freedom.

[Ben Zioner]

39 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

TROLL

Indeed.

[save the frogs]

thailand gets 34/100 freedom score, but based on what criteria?

 

seems like a silly baseless score to me. 

 

[simon43]

If 'freedom' is based on freedom of speech, then IMHO the vast majority of civilians would not consider that a useful freedom. Perhaps if you are some political activist, but again IMHO I think most people just want to get on with their lives without government interference (ie nanny state).

[Robert_Smith]

4 minutes ago, simon43 said:

If 'freedom' is based on freedom of speech, then IMHO the vast majority of civilians would not consider that a useful freedom. Perhaps if you are some political activist, but again IMHO I think most people just want to get on with their lives without government interference (ie nanny state).

Most western people view free speech as a fundamental human right...

 

What planet are you on, Simon?

 

bob.

[Harrisfan]

21 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

thailand gets 34/100 freedom score, but based on what criteria?

 

seems like a silly baseless score to me. 

 

I'd give it 90/100. West about 50.

[Harrisfan]

5 minutes ago, Robert_Smith said:

Most western people view free speech as a fundamental human right...

 

What planet are you on, Simon?

 

bob.

Free speech vs freedom of action. I prefer free action. West is now jailing free speakers as well.

[Robert_Smith]

Just now, Harrisfan said:

Free speech vs freedom of action. I prefer free action. West is now jailing free speakers as well.

...So the west too must resist and fight back.

 

bob.

[save the frogs]

11 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

West is now jailing free speakers as well.

there's a lot of crazy people with crazy agendas 

so blocking free speech isn't always a bad thing

[Robert_Smith]

27 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

thailand gets 34/100 freedom score, but based on what criteria?

 

seems like a silly baseless score to me. 

 

Read the full report and you will see why.

 

Can you even be bothered to?

 

bob.

[simon43]

[quote]

Most western people view free speech as a fundamental human right...

[/quote]

 

Meaningless!  Who gives a flying <deleted> about free speech?

 

I'd rather live somewhere with decent schools, hospitals etc, and where I can get on with my life without the state poking its nose in....

 

Most people don't give a damn about free speech, (unless you're into politics).  Give me China or Laos any day over the UK/USA/Australia. (excluding the crap hospitals in Laos!!)

 

 

[Robert_Smith]

2 minutes ago, simon43 said:

Most people don't give a damn about free speech,

Of course they don't where you live - you live in Myanmar for christ sake!

 

there is no free speech there!

 

bob.

[Harrisfan]

3 minutes ago, Robert_Smith said:

Of course they don't where you live - you live in Myanmar for christ sake!

 

there is no free speech there!

 

bob.

What limits your speech Bob?

[Robert_Smith]

2 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

What limits your speech Bob?

Nothing.

 

bob.

[simon43]

7 minutes ago, Robert_Smith said:

Of course they don't where you live - you live in Myanmar for christ sake!

 

there is no free speech there!

 

bob.

Free speech is only important when you are involved in politics.  I have zero interest in politics (because ALL politicians are corrupt).  I have learnt to look after myself and those I love.  Everyone else can go <deleted> themselves 🙂

[Robert_Smith]

1 minute ago, simon43 said:

 Everyone else can go <deleted> themselves 🙂

...tell that to your current despot leader 😄

 

bob.