Harvard University resists

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In a memo to Harvard students and faculty released on Monday, the university's president, Alan Garber, noted that "the administration issued an updated and expanded list of demands, warning that Harvard must comply if we intend to 'maintain [our] financial relationship with the federal government.'"

"It makes clear that the intention is not to work with us to address antisemitism in a cooperative and constructive manner. Although some of the demands outlined by the government are aimed at combating antisemitism, the majority represent direct governmental regulation of the 'intellectual conditions' at Harvard," he added.

Explaining the university's position on the matter, Garber said, "No government —regardless of which party is in power — should dictate what private universities can teach, whom they can admit and hire, and which areas of study and inquiry they can pursue.”

The statement was widely welcomed, including by Barack Obama, who praised Harvard for setting "an example for other higher-ed institutions."

“Let’s hope other institutions follow suit," Obama wrote on the social platform X.

Political writer Amanda Marcotte said that Harvard's decision to stand up to the president is important because many other institutions who received similar demands surrendered to Trump.

 Talking about Columbia University's ceding to a list of stringent anti-student policies after Trump threatened $400 million in federal funding, she remarked that the university capitulated to Trump's demands by claiming the university was 'fighting anti-semitism.'

Marcotte said Harvard may have understood that saying no to Trump did not "cost" them two billion dollars.

 She added, " Trump was always going to find an excuse to withhold the money. Might as well not give up your dignity along with it. Compliance, however, amounted to consenting to what Stanford professor Adrian Daub calls 'a controlled demolition, with each demand a charge to knock out another pillar of academic freedom.'"

'Ground shifted': Major institutions are realizing 'complicity' with Trump only makes things worse

 

[FlorC]

The U.S. Internal Revenue Service is making plans to rescind the tax-exempt status of Harvard University, CNN reported on Wednesday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.

GOOD !

US IRS planning to rescind Harvard's tax-exempt status amid Trump feud, CNN reports | Reuters

[Cameroni]

Just now, FlorC said:

The U.S. Internal Revenue Service is making plans to rescind the tax-exempt status of Harvard University, CNN reported on Wednesday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.

GOOD !

US IRS planning to rescind Harvard's tax-exempt status amid Trump feud, CNN reports | Reuters

 

Excellent news. The leftist influence on campuses needs to be mericlessly eradicated. 

[spidermike007]

Any person or institution that stands up to the Goomba, is demonstrating a tremendous amount of courage and moral conviction, in the face of utter and total moral bankruptcy. 

 

And though I am no fan of China's government nor the CCP I have tremendous admiration for the way they're standing up to Trump's utterly ridiculous and completely reckless policies. They will beat Trump, which is not a difficult thing to do, and he is going to be paying a huge price for his hubris, arrogance and overestimation of America's place in the world. 

[NickyLouie]

5 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

They will beat Trump, which is not a difficult thing to do,

 

Same way you thought she would beat Trump ?

 

How does it feel to be a loser ?

 

 

[FlorC]

14 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

utter and total moral bankruptcy

Exactly what they teach in these universities.

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Early Targets of Harvard Funding Cuts: Tuberculosis, ALS Research

Harvard University scientists are facing the prospect of laying off staff, euthanizing research animals and bringing yearslong science projects to a halt as a freeze on federal funds looms.

On Monday, after the university rejected government demands to change how it runs and admits students, the Trump administration said it would stop $2.26 billion in funds previously awarded to the school as part of an investigation into how the university dealt with antisemitism.

Stop-work orders began arriving soon after. 

https://archive.ph/mjuDP

 

Clearly the Trump administration believes Harvard is way too prejudiced against Tuberculosis and ALS.

 

[MicroB]

Department of Homeland Security is canceling grants, with a twisted press release omitting life-saving counter terrorism research being carried out

 

By cutting these grants, the safety of Americans and her armed forces is weakened. DHS grants are related to counter terrorism. I've worked on them before; serious stuff. I was in force protection. Harvard' research is about identifying extremism and radicalisation.

 

Ideological vandalism which warms the hearts of America's enemies.

[Ebumbu]

29 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Any person or institution that stands up to the Goomba, is demonstrating a tremendous amount of courage and moral conviction, in the face of utter and total moral bankruptcy. 

 

And though I am no fan of China's government nor the CCP I have tremendous admiration for the way they're standing up to Trump's utterly ridiculous and completely reckless policies. They will beat Trump, which is not a difficult thing to do, and he is going to be paying a huge price for his hubris, arrogance and overestimation of America's place in the world. 

 

In the meantime, short the S&P. 

[Purdey]

I think the dumbing down of students is well overdue. Having Harvard in 4th position globally is not something to be proud of. Get them down to 120th. Can't have students think for themselves for god's sake. Whatever next?

 

 

 

 

[MicroB]

4 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Early Targets of Harvard Funding Cuts: Tuberculosis, ALS Research

Harvard University scientists are facing the prospect of laying off staff, euthanizing research animals and bringing yearslong science projects to a halt as a freeze on federal funds looms.

On Monday, after the university rejected government demands to change how it runs and admits students, the Trump administration said it would stop $2.26 billion in funds previously awarded to the school as part of an investigation into how the university dealt with antisemitism.

Stop-work orders began arriving soon after. 

https://archive.ph/mjuDP

 

Clearly the Trump administration believes Harvard is way too prejudiced against Tuberculosis and ALS.

 

 

In the case of TB, unlike most other Western countries, the US doesn't pracice vaccination, and instead depends on surveillance measures to control spread (the reasons are complicated).

 

The case of Andrew Speaker underlines why the research continues to be important. Its a disease that would have haunted the 47th President when he was younger, and likely impacted the majority of Europeans aged over 60 in some way, and its returning. The BCG vaccine also proved useful during the COVID pandemic in turbocharging the immune response in the elderly, for the very reasons you don't give it to very young babies.

[MicroB]

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

Excellent news. The leftist influence on campuses needs to be mericlessly eradicated. 

 

Yeah, spelling might be improved.

 

Still, which way did the uneducated Russian masses in 1917 lean?

 

Pete Hegseth; are you saying now he's a left wing plant? RFK Jr; another Harvard graduate. So is Elise Stefanik, your president's pick to represent him to the world. Vivek Ramaswamy, you know, the bloke who helped out Musk on DOGE, a Harvard old boy.

 

First time round, the 45th President favoured Harvard graduates. Steve Bannon, Jared  Kushner, Wilbur Ross, Mike Pompeo, Elaine Chao, Alexander Acosta, Rod Rosenstein,  the Mooch, Kayleigh McEnany, Rachel  Brand, Sarah Flores, Jeffrey Rosen, Stacy Cline Amin, John Bash, Ann Donaldson, Gregory Katsas, Michael McGinley, Schuyler Schouten, Zina Bash, Avrahm Berkowitz, Kenneth Juster, Gilbert Kaplan, and Henry J. Kerner.

 

Of course, all of these graduates will likely agree with a statement that a Harvard education allowed them to think for themselves. If you disgree with that, ergo they are all leftist plants, and the President has been negligant.

 

All of them, by your reckoning, under "leftist influence" and need to be "mericlessly"  (sic) eradicated.

 

You have a 50/50 chance of getting dementia or cancer. Your chances of surviving either depend on university research.

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10 minutes ago, MicroB said:

 

Yeah, spelling might be improved.

 

Still, which way did the uneducated Russian masses in 1917 lean?

 

Pete Hegseth; are you saying now he's a left wing plant? RFK Jr; another Harvard graduate. So is Elise Stefanik, your president's pick to represent him to the world. Vivek Ramaswamy, you know, the bloke who helped out Musk on DOGE, a Harvard old boy.

 

First time round, the 45th President favoured Harvard graduates. Steve Bannon, Jared  Kushner, Wilbur Ross, Mike Pompeo, Elaine Chao, Alexander Acosta, Rod Rosenstein,  the Mooch, Kayleigh McEnany, Rachel  Brand, Sarah Flores, Jeffrey Rosen, Stacy Cline Amin, John Bash, Ann Donaldson, Gregory Katsas, Michael McGinley, Schuyler Schouten, Zina Bash, Avrahm Berkowitz, Kenneth Juster, Gilbert Kaplan, and Henry J. Kerner.

 

Of course, all of these graduates will likely agree with a statement that a Harvard education allowed them to think for themselves. If you disgree with that, ergo they are all leftist plants, and the President has been negligant.

 

All of them, by your reckoning, under "leftist influence" and need to be "mericlessly"  (sic) eradicated.

 

You have a 50/50 chance of getting dementia or cancer. Your chances of surviving either depend on university research.

I think the main issue apart from the attempt at suppression of speech, is the fact that the undergraduate portion of the University is only a small part of Harvard. It is one of the leading centers of scientific research in the country.The kind of research America desperately needs more of. Not just that. But a lot of that research is done by gifted people from abroad who are attracted to the kind of facilities that Harvard offers. Given the Trump administration recent immigration actions, the US will probably be seeing a lot less of them.

[Cameroni]

17 minutes ago, MicroB said:

 

Yeah, spelling might be improved.

 

Still, which way did the uneducated Russian masses in 1917 lean?

 

Pete Hegseth; are you saying now he's a left wing plant? RFK Jr; another Harvard graduate. So is Elise Stefanik, your president's pick to represent him to the world. Vivek Ramaswamy, you know, the bloke who helped out Musk on DOGE, a Harvard old boy.

 

First time round, the 45th President favoured Harvard graduates. Steve Bannon, Jared  Kushner, Wilbur Ross, Mike Pompeo, Elaine Chao, Alexander Acosta, Rod Rosenstein,  the Mooch, Kayleigh McEnany, Rachel  Brand, Sarah Flores, Jeffrey Rosen, Stacy Cline Amin, John Bash, Ann Donaldson, Gregory Katsas, Michael McGinley, Schuyler Schouten, Zina Bash, Avrahm Berkowitz, Kenneth Juster, Gilbert Kaplan, and Henry J. Kerner.

 

Of course, all of these graduates will likely agree with a statement that a Harvard education allowed them to think for themselves. If you disgree with that, ergo they are all leftist plants, and the President has been negligant.

 

All of them, by your reckoning, under "leftist influence" and need to be "mericlessly"  (sic) eradicated.

 

You have a 50/50 chance of getting dementia or cancer. Your chances of surviving either depend on university research.

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Of course all universities will have brought forth great conservative thinkers and achievers, that in no way negates the pernicious influence of radical left extremism at universities. Do we really need "no means no" campaigns to be the first thing that hits new students at universities? Do we really need gender studies, DEI and all the other over the top, useless vile wastes of taxpayer money? No we do not.

 

I am not against freedom of speech. I support left wing academics, provided they produce worthwhile research, big fan of Foucault. I even support pro Palestinian acitivism. Now is it regrettable that some worthwhile programs will be affected short term, of course it is, but you cannot surgically remove a cancer without some risk. In due course of course worthwhile programs will get enough funding.

 

However, the leftists parasites, who leech off taxpayer money and only contribute totally worthless programs, or nothing at all, these need to be defunded and eradicated. Again, another win by Trump. He keeps making the US a better place. What a superb president to have in the White House now.

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4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

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Of course all universities will have brought forth great conservative thinkers and achievers, that in no way negates the pernicious influence of radical left extremism at universities. Do we really need "no means no" campaigns to be the first thing that hits new students at universities? Do we really need gender studies, DEI and all the other over the top, useless vile wastes of taxpayer money? No we do not.

 

I am not against freedom of speech. I support left wing academics, provided they produce worthwhile research, big fan of Foucault. I even support pro Palestinian acitivism. Now is it regrettable that some worthwhile programs will be affected short term, of course it is, but you cannot surgically remove a cancer without some risk. In due course of course worthwhile programs will get enough funding.

 

However, the leftists parasites, who leech off taxpayer money and only contribute totally worthless programs, or nothing at all, these need to be defunded and eradicated. Again, another win by Trump. He keeps making the US a better place. What a superb president to have in the White House now.

The cancer being free speech.

[Cameroni]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

The cancer being free speech.

 

There is no free spech.

 

That's an illusion. Even in the US, there was never totally free speech. 

 

The sooner you understand this fact, the better your life will be.

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54 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

There is no free spech.

 

That's an illusion. Even in the US, there was never totally free speech. 

 

The sooner you understand this fact, the better your life will be.

 Except for a few cases like shouting fire in a crowded theater or making specific threats speech was very free. For Americans and non-citizens alike. Now it's not. Voicing unpopular opinions invites direct retaliation from the government.

[Cameroni]

20 minutes ago, placeholder said:

 Except for a few cases like shouting fire in a crowded theater or making specific threats speech was very free. For Americans and non-citizens alike. Now it's not. Voicing unpopular opinions invites direct retaliation from the government.

 

Lol, this is so funny, because before it was of course the leftists who retaliated on anyone who voiced unpopular opinions. I guess the tables have turned now.

 

But I am sure we can agree that since Musk took over X free speech is indeed a lot freer than it was.

 

In effect however free speech was always an illustion and there were massive legal constraints on speech, even in the US. Long before Trump. I guess that gets in the way of the victim ideology of the left now.

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9 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Lol, this is so funny, because before it was of course the leftists who retaliated on anyone who voiced unpopular opinions. I guess the tables have turned now.

 

But I am sure we can agree that since Musk took over X free speech is indeed a lot freer than it was.

 

In effect however free speech was always an illustion and there were massive legal constraints on speech, even in the US. Long before Trump. I guess that gets in the way of the victim ideology of the left now.

There is plenty of private retaliation on both sides. But there's a difference between private citizens and institutions engaging in it and the government actively suppressing it. Especially when it's the Federal Government.

[rough diamond]

34 minutes ago, placeholder said:

 Except for a few cases like shouting fire in a crowded theater or making specific threats speech was very free. For Americans and non-citizens alike. Now it's not. Voicing unpopular opinions invites direct retaliation from the government.

The same is about to happen in the UK if article 20 of the UK's workers' rights bill is approved which has sparked fears that pub bosses could be sued if their employees are offended when overhearing customers' conversations. 

[rough diamond]

31 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Musk took over X free speech

Musk and X free speech is an oxymoron statement!

[beautifulthailand99]

This is the way. On your knees Harvard.

[Cameroni]

27 minutes ago, placeholder said:

There is plenty of private retaliation on both sides. But there's a difference between private citizens and institutions engaging in it and the government actively suppressing it. Especially when it's the Federal Government.

 

I don't agree with the surpression of speech on Palestine, however, we all know that the left has taken extreme ideology too far on campus. If they are reigned in, it is a good thing.

 

Nobody needs 80% of the leftist extremism we see at universities.

[beautifulthailand99]

37 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Lol, this is so funny, because before it was of course the leftists who retaliated on anyone who voiced unpopular opinions. I guess the tables have turned now.

 

But I am sure we can agree that since Musk took over X free speech is indeed a lot freer than it was.

 

In effect however free speech was always an illustion and there were massive legal constraints on speech, even in the US. Long before Trump. I guess that gets in the way of the victim ideology of the left now.

Nazism and anti-semitism are spreading like a plague on X with the blessing of Musk, just check out Nick Fuentes and his satellite supporters.

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2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

I don't agree with the surpression of speech on Palestine, however, we all know that the left has taken extreme ideology too far on campus. If they are reigned in, it is a good thing.

 

Nobody needs 80% of the leftist extremism we see at universities.

 How exactly have they taken it too far?

[Cameroni]

12 minutes ago, placeholder said:

 How exactly have they taken it too far?

 

The first thing you see when you're a freshman and go on campus is a "No means No" campaign, some feminists have demanded contracts just to kiss at university, all this socialist worker hardcore communist nonsense, none of that serves any positive purpose. 

[Peabody]

4 hours ago, NickyLouie said:

How does it feel to be a loser ?

Ask Twitler and his followers, the embodiments of loser.

[impulse]

5 hours ago, placeholder said:

Early Targets of Harvard Funding Cuts: Tuberculosis, ALS Research

Harvard University scientists are facing the prospect of laying off staff, euthanizing research animals and bringing yearslong science projects to a halt as a freeze on federal funds looms.

 

They have many $ billions in their endowment fund.  They could probably keep going for a decade or more between their piggy bank, ongoing donations and private sector contracts.

 

Instead, they choose to lay off staff and threaten to eat the cats euthanize the puppies in a ridiculous attempt to tug at heartstrings and demonize Trump. 

 

They could just agree to follow US law and cooperate on the investigations of illegal behavior...

 

[NickyLouie]

21 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

They have many $ billions in their endowment fund.  They could probably keep going for a decade or more between their piggy bank, ongoing donations and private sector contracts.

 

 

 

 Honestly , Trump (USA) should seize these assets ,.

 

Harvard University's endowment returned 9.6% in 2024 , increasing the value of the endowment to $53.2 billion

 

 

 

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26 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

They have many $ billions in their endowment fund.  They could probably keep going for a decade or more between their piggy bank, ongoing donations and private sector contracts.

 

Instead, they choose to lay off staff and threaten to eat the cats euthanize the puppies in a ridiculous attempt to tug at heartstrings and demonize Trump. 

 

They could just agree to follow US law and cooperate on the investigations of illegal behavior...

 

What illegal behavior are you referring to?