Chinese Boeing plane returned to US

[3NUMBAS]

A new Boeing jet meant for a Chinese airline reportedly returned to the U.S. because of the ongoing trade war

 

• A Boeing jet at the company’s completion plant in China flew back to the U.S. on Friday, according to reports. The new plane was supposed to be delivered to a Chinese airline, however, it was never handed over. Earlier this week, the Chinese government reportedly told airlines not to buy new jets from Boeing and to get permission before accepting any planes it had already ordered but hadn’t been delivered yet. 

A brand-new Boeing jet is caught up in the trade war between China and the U.S. 

 

https://fortune.com/article/boeing-jet-returned-us-china-trade-war/
 

[Tug]

How many people worked at Boeing?well if trump kills that company that will be a bit of a kerkuffel ehh?oh I’m a thinking the big companies have about had their fill of one Donald John trump.

[MicroB]

2 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

A new Boeing jet meant for a Chinese airline reportedly returned to the U.S. because of the ongoing trade war

 

• A Boeing jet at the company’s completion plant in China flew back to the U.S. on Friday, according to reports. The new plane was supposed to be delivered to a Chinese airline, however, it was never handed over. Earlier this week, the Chinese government reportedly told airlines not to buy new jets from Boeing and to get permission before accepting any planes it had already ordered but hadn’t been delivered yet. 

A brand-new Boeing jet is caught up in the trade war between China and the U.S. 

 

https://fortune.com/article/boeing-jet-returned-us-china-trade-war/
 

 

 

Not brand new anymore. How complete are these aircraft? Do they have fitted out cabins, Contrary to the photo, the 3 planes that have come back were built for Xiamen Airways. From what I can gather, Zhoushan completes the livery and interiors. I assume most of the cabin wiring is done in the US, and in China they are bolting in seats, laying carpet, hooking up entertainment systems, all in Chinese.

 

These were built with business and economy class cabins, so zero interest from Ryan Air unless a big discount, as they will likely need complete rework. Ryaqn Air, and other similar airlines don't do business class.

 

 

 

[MicroB]

2 minutes ago, Tug said:

How many people worked at Boeing?well if trump kills that company that will be a bit of a kerkuffel ehh?oh I’m a thinking the big companies have about had their fill of one Donald John trump.

 

Too Big Too Fail.

 

But its not just Boeing. There is a huge supply chain. This supply chain impacts other industries. For instance, a well known US medtec manufacturer uses an aerospace parts supplier to also carry out assembly of some of its key products. If that company goes under, that Medtec company no longer has a CMO. And they can't just pick up the proverbial yellow pages and find another. They have to find someone else who does medtec, and has capacity. They need a lot of work transferring production. The FDA has to reapprove their product before it can even be sold.

[steven100]

45 minutes ago, Tug said:

How many people worked at Boeing?well if trump kills that company that will be a bit of a kerkuffel ehh?oh I’m a thinking the big companies have about had their fill of one Donald John trump.

he is not a professional,  he is not an economist,  he is a lunatic ....   

 

enough said  .... 

[steven100]

China already makes the COMAC C919 which is Boeing's 737Max....  at 25-30%  cheaper.

Ryanair will buy many as will other countries ....  US cannot compete with CHINA   !!!

 

does Trump understand that  ???????????  

I don't think so .... 

[NoDisplayName]

12 minutes ago, steven100 said:

does Trump understand that  ???????????  

I don't think so .... 

 

Cutting ourself off from the world's largest aviation market, the world's largest automobile market, the world's largest mooncake market, and projected to be the world's largest consumer market by 2030........44DD chest is what that is!

 

Winning!©

[CanadaSam]

Perhaps the first of many murican made items soon to be returned to sender.

 

Hope the depression comes sooner than later to the states, so the people will rise up and throw this <deleted> out of his "office" of buffoons!

[SunnyinBangrak]

44 minutes ago, steven100 said:

China already makes the COMAC C919 which is Boeing's 737Max....  at 25-30%  cheaper.

Ryanair will buy many as will other countries ....  US cannot compete with CHINA   !!!

 

does Trump understand that  ???????????  

I don't think so .... 

Flying in a Chinese knockoff plane, what could possibly go wrong?🤣 im guessing this plane is to Boeing what the Chickenbacker and Chibsons are to leading US guitar manufacturers - hint - total junk.

 

[Tug]

1 hour ago, steven100 said:

he is not a professional,  he is not an economist,  he is a lunatic ....   

 

enough said  .... 

I’m not a professional I’m not an economist but I have eyes ears and a brain.im also not in the cult im certainly not a lunatic more of a concerned American 

[NoDisplayName]

1 minute ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Flying in a Chinese knockoff plane, what could possibly go wrong?🤣 im guessing this plane is to Boeing what the Chickenbacker and Chibsons are to leading US guitar manufacturers - hint - total junk.

 

 

More likely the C919 is to Boeing what Chinese high-speed rail is to Amtrak.

 

[BLMFem]

1 minute ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Flying in a Chinese knockoff plane, what could possibly go wrong?🤣

 

Considering the mind-blowing issues Boeing has had/still has regarding safety I wouldn't be so quick to got there.

Then again, you MAGA guys don't really consider hypocrisy to be a thing at all so that might explain your egg-on-face post.

[stevenl]

5 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Flying in a Chinese knockoff plane, what could possibly go wrong?🤣 im guessing this plane is to Boeing what the Chickenbacker and Chibsons are to leading US guitar manufacturers - hint - total junk.

 

I doubt the Chinese planes will be self destructing. Unlike the original ones.

[steven100]

7 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Flying in a Chinese knockoff plane, what could possibly go wrong?🤣 im guessing this plane is to Boeing what the Chickenbacker and Chibsons are to leading US guitar manufacturers - hint - total junk.

 

so?   what's your point ?  yes it's a Chinese aircraft made alot cheaper than in the US.  When they start falling outta the sky's then I'll come back and chat,  but for now it's a cheaper product and the US can NEVER complete.

Your WAGES and costs are way toooooooooooo high.   Countries WILL buy China aircraft ...  just watch & learn. 

[KhunLA]

2 hours ago, Tug said:

How many people worked at Boeing?well if trump kills that company that will be a bit of a kerkuffel ehh?oh I’m a thinking the big companies have about had their fill of one Donald John trump.

Boeing has been in trouble recently way before Trump was elected.  Actually did very good during

Trump 1, till covid hit.

 

 

https://www.google.com/finance/quote/BA:NYSE?sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi_ktDyzOaMAxX3UGcHHTtuMwwQ3ecFegQIPRAf&window=MAX

 

[GammaGlobulin]

5 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

A new Boeing jet meant for a Chinese airline reportedly returned to the U.S. because of the ongoing trade war

 

• A Boeing jet at the company’s completion plant in China flew back to the U.S. on Friday, according to reports. The new plane was supposed to be delivered to a Chinese airline, however, it was never handed over. Earlier this week, the Chinese government reportedly told airlines not to buy new jets from Boeing and to get permission before accepting any planes it had already ordered but hadn’t been delivered yet. 

A brand-new Boeing jet is caught up in the trade war between China and the U.S. 

 

https://fortune.com/article/boeing-jet-returned-us-china-trade-war/
 

 

GREAT....!!!!!

 

We should have NEVER allowed AirBus or Boeing to set up production facilities in COMMIE CHINA....NO WAY, Jose....!!!

 

This was the very STUPIDEST move of the past 4 decades.

 

Let them, the ChiComs, import airlines from the SovietUnion, now Russia.

 

The Russians, anyway, have the very best tech...as the ChiComs do know.

 

What a DISASTER.....!!!!!!!!!!!

 

It's almost as if the West were, has been, trying to nurture Authoritarian Regimes in East Asia....

 

What a complete JOKE and Disaster.

 

DECOUPLE....NOW!

 

DEMOCRACY....NOW.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

[Lacessit]

36 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Flying in a Chinese knockoff plane, what could possibly go wrong?🤣 im guessing this plane is to Boeing what the Chickenbacker and Chibsons are to leading US guitar manufacturers - hint - total junk.

 

China can buy Airbus. It's safer than Boeing anyway.

 

China makes BYD electric cars that are cheaper and better quality than Teslas. What makes you think they can't do the same with aircraft?

 

IIRC Americans used to think they made the best cars, then the Japanese showed them how wrong they were.

 

China has 48,000 km of high speed rail. The US has 80 km. QED.

[NoDisplayName]

5 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

A Boeing jet at the company’s completion plant in China flew back to the U.S. on Friday

 

737 Max.

 

Did it survive the return flight?

[Lacessit]

14 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

GREAT....!!!!!

 

We should have NEVER allowed AirBus or Boeing to set up production facilities in COMMIE CHINA....NO WAY, Jose....!!!

 

This was the very STUPIDEST move of the past 4 decades.

 

Let them, the ChiComs import airlines from the SovietUnion, now Russia.

 

The Russians, anyway, have the very best tech...as the ChiComs do know.

 

What a DISASTER.....!!!!!!!!!!!

 

It's almost as if the West were trying to nurture Authoritarian Regimes in East Asia....

 

What a complete JOKE and Disaster.

 

DECOUPLE....NOW!

 

DEMOCRACY....NOW.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

Labor and compliance costs in America are so out of hand it's no surprise manufacturers moved elsewhere. Also no surprise you have illegal immigrants doing work Americans won't.

 

I once did an environmental audit of a plant in California. Every year, the plant manager had to submit reports to 6 different regulatory authorities - Federal EPA, Chino Basin Water Authority, South Coast Air Quality Management District, State EPA, and two others I can't remember.

 

There's no point in complaining when you are crapping in your own nest. Self-inflicted wound.

[MicroB]

19 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

GREAT....!!!!!

 

We should have NEVER allowed AirBus or Boeing to set up production facilities in COMMIE CHINA....NO WAY, Jose....!!!

 

This was the very STUPIDEST move of the past 4 decades.

 

Let them, the ChiComs import airlines from the SovietUnion, now Russia.

 

The Russians, anyway, have the very best tech...as the ChiComs do know.

 

What a DISASTER.....!!!!!!!!!!!

 

It's almost as if the West were, has been, trying to nurture Authoritarian Regimes in East Asia....

 

What a complete JOKE and Disaster.

 

DECOUPLE....NOW!

 

DEMOCRACY....NOW.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

The plane is made in USA. The paint job and seats are added in China. I assume you have been in a coma for 30 years and just woken, so understandably you have no idea what the Comac C919 is.

[GammaGlobulin]

17 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

QED

 

Ha....!

 

First, please present all the facts....before....declaring...

 

QED

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

I once did an environmental audit of a plant in California

 

Which?

 

[GammaGlobulin]

3 minutes ago, MicroB said:

The plane is made in USA. The paint job and seats are added in China.

 

I can only presume that you have forgotten the debate about what parts of Boeing Aircraft could be legally produced in China.

 

Anyway, back in the day, I do recall the discussion.

 

For example....WINGS....

 

Do I need to look this up for you...on the internet?

 

This was some time ago...and I recall the debate...pretty well.

 

IF I am mistaken, then I do apologize to you, and all on TV.

 

 

[rough diamond]

19 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

737 Max.

 

Did it survive the return flight?

Yes it had a Chinese crew!

[rough diamond]

3 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

I can only presume that you have forgotten the debate about what parts of Boeing Aircraft could be legally produced in China.

 

Anyway, back in the day, I do recall the discussion.

 

For example....WINGS....

 

Do I need to look this up for you...on the internet?

 

This was some time ago...and I recall the debate...pretty well.

 

IF I am mistaken, then I do apologize to you, and all on TV.

 

 

Boeing manufactures its aircraft wings primarily at the Everett Factory in Everett, Washington. Specifically, the Boeing 777X Wing Plant in Everett is a dedicated facility for building large composite wings for the 777X family. While some components are sourced from other locations, the majority of Boeing's wing assembly takes place at the Everett facility. 

[NoDisplayName]

10 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

I can only presume that you have forgotten the debate about what parts of Boeing Aircraft could be legally produced in China.

 

...the planemaker's flagship delivery plant outside Shanghai ....

...

Another arrived last week at Zhoushan, where Boeing installs interiors and paints liveries before handing over to customers,

 

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/boeing-delivery-plant-china-latest-hot-spot-tariff-war-2025-04-17/

[SunnyinBangrak]

33 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

China can buy Airbus. It's safer than Boeing anyway.

 

China makes BYD electric cars that are cheaper and better quality than Teslas. What makes you think they can't do the same with aircraft?

 

IIRC Americans used to think they made the best cars, then the Japanese showed them how wrong they were.

 

China has 48,000 km of high speed rail. The US has 80 km. QED.

BYD you say? Any potential issues with self combusting planes?

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DIhHcu_uPDW/?igsh=aWd5b3N0Nzdlb3ow&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR7WlvFJaJnT-DD39BVGCCkZFJeKKwb_vex2DPUl2VJpQge3B5FKG8tr3iIQpA_aem_2bVxqNmbXsWQoctPXPc0-A

[MicroB]

17 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

I can only presume that you have forgotten the debate about what parts of Boeing Aircraft could be legally produced in China.

 

Anyway, back in the day, I do recall the discussion.

 

For example....WINGS....

 

Do I need to look this up for you...on the internet?

 

This was some time ago...and I recall the debate...pretty well.

 

IF I am mistaken, then I do apologize to you, and all on TV.

 

 

 

In reference to 737 Max;

 

http://www.boeingzhoushan.com/en/aboutUs/

 

Quote

 

The Boeing 737 Completion and Delivery Center is located in Zhoushan, Zhejiang Province, China.

The completion center is a joint venture between Boeing and Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China, Ltd. (COMAC).

Employees at this facility will install interiors and paint liveries for 737 MAX airplanes bound for Chinese airlines customers.

Once completed, the airplanes will be handed over from a separate, Boeing-owned delivery center.

 

 

 

 

 

[Lacessit]

25 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Which?

 

I prefer anonymity, the plant probably does too.

[NoDisplayName]

11 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

BYD you say? Any potential issues with self combusting planes?

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DIhHcu_uPDW/?igsh=aWd5b3N0Nzdlb3ow&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR7WlvFJaJnT-DD39BVGCCkZFJeKKwb_vex2DPUl2VJpQge3B5FKG8tr3iIQpA_aem_2bVxqNmbXsWQoctPXPc0-A

 

Boeing, you say?