7 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

If you watched his video, he pointed out, quite correctly, that any mutation in the virus made the mRNAs ineffective.  So they're moving the money ($500 Million +/-) over into research into more effective treatments.

 

"While mutations in viruses can affect vaccine efficacy, they don't necessarily render mRNA vaccines completely ineffective. The extent of the impact depends on the specific mutation and its location on the virus, particularly concerning the target of the vaccine. For example, mutations in the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2 have been shown to affect vaccine effectiveness, but mRNA vaccines are still considered protective against severe illness". 

 

 

 

Here's one for the anti-vaxers and the no such thing as pathogens brigade or no such thing as contagious disease, or measles is just a mild rash, whooping is a tickle in the throat or mumps is just a bit of a fever.......all at a time where toxins in the environment are increasing, ultra-processed food is becoming the norm............and of course vaccines themselves are killing us

 

 

 

Here we go again with more anti science anti fact BS conspiracy theories.  I guess that since the Democrat led child pedophile conspiracy theory hasn't worked out very well among the epstein files that all these nutjobs need to find some new garbage to spew .  RFK and the likes are absolute nut jobs with zero qualifications and creditibility other than firing people cancelling research and spewing BS.

 

Fact:  The covid vax saved millions of lives.

Fact:  Many people who refused the vax died.

Fact:   You will never convince the anti vaxers that scientists know more about it than they do.

 

 

1 minute ago, pomchop said:

Fact:  Many people who refused the vax died.

 

Fact many who took all the vax died.

6 minutes ago, johng said:

 

Fact many who took all the vax died.

 

 

UK

 

As of June 30, 2023, the Office for National Statistics (ONS) reported 63 deaths where COVID-19 vaccines were mentioned on the death certificate.

 

The covid vaccination program is estimated to have saved 396,532 lives.

 

Of course there's no need to point out that these are totally false figures put by the government to fool the masses.

37 minutes ago, pomchop said:

Fact:  The covid vax saved millions of lives.

Fact:  Many people who refused the vax died.

Fact:   You will never convince the anti vaxers that scientists know more about it than they do.

Don't agree with your post Sir.

 

F - The covid jab never saved one life.

F - People did die. But not from covid.

F - I could be convinced. Show where a virus has ever been found.

 

These white-coat virologists and vaccinologists are practicing fraudulent science. In fact, it's not even science.

 

Nature has the answers we seek.

 

13 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Don't agree with your post Sir.

 

F - The covid jab never saved one life.

F - People did die. But not from covid.

F - I could be convinced. Show where a virus has ever been found.

 

These white-coat virologists and vaccinologists are practicing fraudulent science. In fact, it's not even science.

 

Nature has the answers we seek.

 

and your credentials? 

 

Glad to hear that you apparently think you know more than thousands of highly educated scientists and doctors who have spent their lives treating patients with all sorts of diseases, keeping and reviewing data over decades, studying the impacts of every available vax as well as hospitalizations, deaths, side effects etc.

 

Here's a little personal story for you to doubt.  Two old high school friends in usa ...Both in good health no serious problems.  Both watched fox news and belived that covid was a big hoax.  Both refused to get the vax.  Both of their wives did get vax.  Both the men died with a hose stuck down their throats with cause of death covid.  Both wives also got covid but only mild cases.  Must have been a coincidence.  Or not.

42 minutes ago, pomchop said:

Both refused to get the vax.  Both of their wives did get vax.  Both the men died with a hose stuck down their throats with cause of death covid.

 

I suppose they begged to be vaccinated on their deathbeds too ?

Cause of death was more likely to have been from the hose stuck down their throat,  a last resort after being denied medications that worked...but instead of going 'off script' put them on ventilators  declare Covid as the cause of death get some government cash  keep to the 'narrative'  keep your licence to 'practice'  a win for everyone except the patients.

15 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

 

Here's one for the anti-vaxers and the no such thing as pathogens brigade or no such thing as contagious disease, or measles is just a mild rash, whooping is a tickle in the throat or mumps is just a bit of a fever.......all at a time where toxins in the environment are increasing, ultra-processed food is becoming the norm............and of course vaccines themselves are killing us

 

 

 

Mortality reduction was primarily attributable to clean water and better sewer systems.

https://www.prb.org/resources/clean-waters-historic-effect-on-u-s-mortality-rates-provides-hope-for-developing-countries/

 

10 minutes ago, johng said:

 

I suppose they begged to be vaccinated on their deathbeds too ?

Cause of death was more likely to have been from the hose stuck down their throat,  a last resort after being denied medications that worked...but instead of going 'off script' put them on ventilators  declare Covid as the cause of death get some government cash  keep to the 'narrative'  keep your licence to 'practice'  a win for everyone except the patients.

I’m willing to bet there were no such “friends” and it’s just a dramatic tall tale.  
 

Why is it only the mudbloods that seem to know multiple people “in good health” who died because they didn’t get vaccinated?

14 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Don't agree with your post Sir.

 

F - The covid jab never saved one life.

F - People did die. But not from covid.

F - I could be convinced. Show where a virus has ever been found.

 

These white-coat virologists and vaccinologists are practicing fraudulent science. In fact, it's not even science.

 

Nature has the answers we seek.

 

You are dangerous..........🤥

56 minutes ago, pomchop said:

Glad to hear that you apparently think you know more than thousands of highly educated scientists and doctors who have spent their lives treating patients with all sorts of diseases, keeping and reviewing data over decades, studying the impacts of every available vax as well as hospitalizations, deaths, side effects etc.

',,,,thousands of highly educated scientists and doctors who have spent their lives treating patients with all sorts of diseases.'

 

I take it you are referring to those white-coats who were/are OK with the covid narrative. If you are, then yes, I do know more than those, either dumb, or more likely compromised idiots. Fraudsters in fact; in many cases.

 

They could do a lot worse than go for a walk in the nearest forest and observe nature at work.

 

I disagree about diseases. The word is branded about as if it is set in stone. In my opinion, most diseases are symptoms. Rarely do doctors investigate the root causes of sickness. Giving out medicines to suppress symptoms is not helping the patient.

4 minutes ago, transam said:

You are dangerous..........🤥

Why? Cause you say so?

 

Put some meat on the bones. Discuss and debate; why don't you Trans.

1 minute ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Why? Cause you say so?

 

Put some meat on the bones. Discuss and debate; why don't you Trans.

Why are folk now living waaaaay longer, because of your nature...?

Waaaaay back, folk died at half our age now, they LIVED and died early via nature.....😂

6 hours ago, transam said:

Why are folk now living waaaaay longer, because of your nature...?

Waaaaay back, folk died at half our age now, they LIVED and died early via nature.....😂

 

Sanitation and hygiene development is the main factor.

1 minute ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Sanitation and hygiene development is the main factor.

What about medical/medication advancements then.......?  🤗

14 minutes ago, transam said:

What about medical/medication advancements then.......?  🤗

 

This issue is debatable under several angles, but there are definitely holes in the unilateral lauding of vaccines as the single miracle which propelled us out of the Dark Age…

 

Take polio, for example. An objective assessment of the timeline, taking into account all factors, leads to a different picture from the broadly accepted and disseminated version. The symptoms of polio, as well as its appearance and disappearance in various locations, can be linked to the use of toxic pesticides such as DDT.

1 minute ago, rattlesnake said:

 

This issue is debatable under several angles, but there are definitely holes in the unilateral lauding of vaccines as the single miracle which propelled us out of the Dark Age…

 

Take polio, for example. An objective assessment of the timeline, taking into account all factors, leads to a different picture from the broadly accepted and disseminated version. The symptoms of polio, as well as its appearance and disappearance in various locations, matches the use of toxic pesticides such as DDT.

You are just one of those deniers, which can be great fun on here pulling apart....🤭

 

Now, every single farangy I know here in LOS is on medication to keep them alive, though I am lucky so far, I don't need any prescription drugs or jabs to keep me alive, though I did have 3 lots of Covid jabs, as recommended....

 

In other words, all the faragy's I know would be dead by now without modern intervention, plus, I would be blind.........

Taking a chance eating grass, as you lot prescribe, is not an option I would take any notice of, but a few       on here would......🤭

7 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Why? Cause you say so?

 

Put some meat on the bones. Discuss and debate; why don't you Trans.

Hey @transam don't even think about getting into a discussion with a sadsack who doesn't believe there are such things as a virus, bacteria or other pathogens, because it's a pointless exercise and like the old saying goes, "don't argue with idiots because they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience".

1 hour ago, transam said:

What about medical/medication advancements then.......?  🤗

That he is willing to try and disprove all medical science advances against viruses and bacteria etc over the many decades is fake, is proof enough that the man is "not the full quid".

Just now, xylophone said:

Hey @transam don't even think about getting into a discussion with a sadsack who doesn't believe there are such things as a virus, bacteria or other pathogens, because it's a pointless exercise and like the old saying goes, "don't argue with idiots because they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience".

That he is willing to try and disprove all medical science advances against viruses and bacteria etc over the many decades is fake, is proof enough that the man is "not the full quid".

Yeh, I know, but I quite enjoy putting a few things forward for the 😂 reply...😋 

4 hours ago, xylophone said:

Hey @transam don't even think about getting into a discussion with a sadsack who doesn't believe there are such things as a virus, bacteria or other pathogens, because it's a pointless exercise and like the old saying goes, "don't argue with idiots because they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience".

That he is willing to try and disprove all medical science advances against viruses and bacteria etc over the many decades is fake, is proof enough that the man is "not the full quid".

Of course bacteria exist. We all have billions. They are our recyclers.

 

However, viruses have never been shown to exist or that germs are pathogenic.

 

You too, need some sun, fresh air and a walk in the forest.

5 hours ago, xylophone said:

6 hours ago, transam said:

What about medical/medication advancements then.......?  🤗

That he is willing to try and disprove all medical science advances against viruses and bacteria etc over the many decades is fake, is proof enough that the man is "not the full quid".

 

You're confusing me with Stiddle, but I accept the compliment nonetheless 

Here's another article for the anti-VAX/anti-virus/anti-bacteria brigade which was published in an Australian newspaper just yesterday, and it could prove to be extremely beneficial for farmers in Australia and worldwide........

 

Cure for Foot and Mouth disease??

Foot-and-mouth disease is highly contagious, affecting livestock health and exports, but, Australia’s new locally-produced mRNA vaccine could enable a rapid response by tailoring to specific viral strains..
It sounds innocuous, but foot-and-mouth disease is one of the world’s most economically devastating diseases affecting livestock.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/foot-and-mouth-disease-how-a-new-australian-vaccine-might-help-farmers-the-conversation/7QWJUYIFJBDERF3Y64GKARPY2M/

 

PS. Foot and mouth disease is caused by a virus, not bacteria. Specifically, it's caused by a virus from the Picornaviridae family, and there are seven different types of the virus that can cause the disease, according to the Department of Agriculture, Environment and Rural Affairs. Antibiotics, which are used to treat bacterial infections, are ineffective against foot and mouth disease. 

45 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Here's another article for the anti-VAX/anti-virus/anti-bacteria brigade which was published in an Australian newspaper just yesterday, and it could prove to be extremely beneficial for farmers in Australia and worldwide........

 

Cure for Foot and Mouth disease??

Foot-and-mouth disease is highly contagious, affecting livestock health and exports, but, Australia’s new locally-produced mRNA vaccine could enable a rapid response by tailoring to specific viral strains..
It sounds innocuous, but foot-and-mouth disease is one of the world’s most economically devastating diseases affecting livestock.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/foot-and-mouth-disease-how-a-new-australian-vaccine-might-help-farmers-the-conversation/7QWJUYIFJBDERF3Y64GKARPY2M/

 

PS. Foot and mouth disease is caused by a virus, not bacteria. Specifically, it's caused by a virus from the Picornaviridae family, and there are seven different types of the virus that can cause the disease, according to the Department of Agriculture, Environment and Rural Affairs. Antibiotics, which are used to treat bacterial infections, are ineffective against foot and mouth disease. 

I do not agree with the assumptions above.

 

In my opinion 'foot and mouth' is a man-made problem. I'll not call it a disease as it is plainly no such thing. It is caused by unnatural living conditions and practices in the husbandry industry. I've not seen any evidence that it is contagious. And I doubt very much that it is; or can be. As for q virus being responsible; well; that is simply speculation. I've looked, as have others, and there are no experiments to show that a virus is responsible. The science is anything bit settled.

 

I'd be inclined to look at obvious things before talking about even more jabs for the unfortunate beasts. What are they? Medical interventions. Including medicines, hormones and vaccines. Unnatural and contaminated feed. Chemicals used to 'clean' and 'sterilise' both the living environment and the animals themselves. 

 

Nature has the answers we seek.

On 8/7/2025 at 8:57 AM, johng said:

 

I suppose they begged to be vaccinated on their deathbeds too ?

Cause of death was more likely to have been from the hose stuck down their throat,  a last resort after being denied medications that worked...but instead of going 'off script' put them on ventilators  declare Covid as the cause of death get some government cash  keep to the 'narrative'  keep your licence to 'practice'  a win for everyone except the patients.

you know NOTHING as to their cause of death and the details....NOTHING

26 minutes ago, pomchop said:

you know NOTHING as to their cause of death and the details....NOTHING

Exactly.

 

Don’t even know if they were real people or just figments of your imagination,

 

Regardless.   No big loss.

11 minutes ago, pomchop said:

you know NOTHING as to their cause of death and the details....NOTHING

And you do ? so do please provide the details. 

On 8/8/2025 at 12:20 PM, xylophone said:

It sounds innocuous, but foot-and-mouth disease is one of the world’s most economically devastating diseases affecting livestock.

Without even looking it up   I'll  suggest that it is 'economically devastating'

due to the total over reaction and mass culling of the  'diseases' effecting livestock that has no effect on humans  when the meat is fully cooked before eating it. same as 'bird flu'

 

3 hours ago, johng said:

And you do ? so do please provide the details. 

please go away and never mention my friends deaths again....

3 hours ago, Airalee said:

Exactly.

 

Don’t even know if they were real people or just figments of your imagination,

 

Regardless.   No big loss.

you are sick.....wait til some of your close friends die if you have any friends....