British Billionaire Brothers Relocate to Monaco Amid UK Wealth Exodus

[BangkokReady]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The Livingstones are heavily into the buy to let and gambling businesses, the money is definitely flowing from the poor to the Livingstones.

 

I mean, if rich people are leaving the UK, presumably something to do with tax, then if both the rich and the poor are being squeezed, where is the money going?

[Bkk Brian]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It would be interesting to know what portion of the Livingstone’s income in rents is derived from welfare payments to their tenants.

 

 

Well how about you do some research then, here's a starter for you,  distressed properties that just one of the brothers was into 30 years ago, not exactly the same as their property portfolio now which is one of the largest privately owned in Europe. 

https://lrp.co.uk/

 

[Chomper Higgot]

23 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

I mean, if rich people are leaving the UK, presumably something to do with tax, then if both the rich and the poor are being squeezed, where is the money going?

 

You can mean what you like, it does not alter the fact that the Livingstone brothers amassed (not created) much of their wealth from buy-to-let rents and online gambling.

 

They are a couple of parasites.

 

[BangkokReady]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

 

You can mean what you like, it does not alter the fact that the Livingstone brothers amassed (not created) much of their wealth from buy-to-let rents and online gambling.

 

Sure, but it does make your reply a little odd.

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

 

You can mean what you like, it does not alter the fact that the Livingstone brothers amassed (not created) much of their wealth from buy-to-let rents and online gambling.

 

They are a couple of parasites.

 

What about all the other investments that were the first of their successes?

 

" Ian, who originally studied optometry, also founded an eyewear business that expanded to more than 200 stores before he sold his stake to Leonardo Del Vecchio’s Luxottica Group in 2010."

 

Can you expand on the welfare payments that you claimed? A link to that would be a good start.

 

"It would be interesting to know what portion of the Livingstone’s income in rents is derived from welfare payments to their tenants."

[Nick Carter icp]

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

 

You can mean what you like, it does not alter the fact that the Livingstone brothers amassed (not created) much of their wealth from buy-to-let rents and online gambling.

 

They are a couple of parasites.

 

 

   Not True :

  The brothers investments 

 

• Atlas Hotels, a hotel real estate and operating company with 46 limited service hotels across the UK^[9]
• David Lloyd Leisure, a gym and health club company with 85 locations across the UK and Europe
• London Hilton on Park Lane
• The Trafalgar St. James London
• The Lensbury^[10]
• The Empire, Leicester Square^{[citation needed]}
• General Healthcare Group, the UK's leading independent health provider with 67 hospitals^[11]
• Atu's real estate portfolio of 271 assets located in Germany
• Diageo's head office in London WC1
• 55 Baker Street, site of Marks & Spencer's former head office^[3]
• 90 care homes, formerly managed by Southern Cross until 2011, to be managed by Orchard Care Homes in the North and Minster in the South-East^{[citation needed]}
• Cliveden, purchased from the collapsed Von Essen Hotels group in February 2012.^[4] The Livingstones withdrew from parallel negotiations to buy the Royal Crescent hotel.^[12][13]
• Crowne Plaza hotel in Cambridge was bought for more than €45m from the former Sean Quinn Group in August 2012.
• A development of 750 apartments with hotel and leisure facilities at Greenwich Peninsula
• e Panama Pacifico, a US$700 million mini-city on the banks of the Panama Canal^[3]

^{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_%26_Regional_Properties}

 

[falangUK]

I like the tall blond brother with long hair.

[Chomper Higgot]

32 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Not True :

  The brothers investments 

 

• Atlas Hotels, a hotel real estate and operating company with 46 limited service hotels across the UK^[9]
• David Lloyd Leisure, a gym and health club company with 85 locations across the UK and Europe
• London Hilton on Park Lane
• The Trafalgar St. James London
• The Lensbury^[10]
• The Empire, Leicester Square^{[citation needed]}
• General Healthcare Group, the UK's leading independent health provider with 67 hospitals^[11]
• Atu's real estate portfolio of 271 assets located in Germany
• Diageo's head office in London WC1
• 55 Baker Street, site of Marks & Spencer's former head office^[3]
• 90 care homes, formerly managed by Southern Cross until 2011, to be managed by Orchard Care Homes in the North and Minster in the South-East^{[citation needed]}
• Cliveden, purchased from the collapsed Von Essen Hotels group in February 2012.^[4] The Livingstones withdrew from parallel negotiations to buy the Royal Crescent hotel.^[12][13]
• Crowne Plaza hotel in Cambridge was bought for more than €45m from the former Sean Quinn Group in August 2012.
• A development of 750 apartments with hotel and leisure facilities at Greenwich Peninsula
• e Panama Pacifico, a US$700 million mini-city on the banks of the Panama Canal^[3]

^{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_%26_Regional_Properties}

 

Which part of “the Livingstone brothers amassed (not created) much of their wealth from buy-to-let rents and online gambling.”

 

Isn’t true?

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Which part of “the Livingstone brothers amassed (not created) much of their wealth from buy-to-let rents and online gambling.”

 

Isn’t true?

the Livingstone brothers amassed (not created) much of their wealth from buy-to-let rents

 

Can you provide a link to your claims, still also waiting for the welfare payments claims

[Nick Carter icp]

10 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Which part of “the Livingstone brothers amassed (not created) much of their wealth from buy-to-let rents and online gambling.”

 

Isn’t true?

 

   The bit about them amassing much of their wealth from buy to lets 

[Chomper Higgot]

15 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The bit about them amassing much of their wealth from buy to lets 

You aren’t aware these two Livingstone brothers are in the buy-to-let business? Perhaps you think their interests in the buy-to-let business are philanthropic.

 

As for not being aware that the Livingstone brothers made hundreds of £millions from online gambling during the pandemic, perhaps you feel a need to defend rich folk without knowing where they make their money?!

 

https://www.knightbainlettings.co.uk/blog/livingston-landlrds.html

 

https://www.standard.co.uk/business/livingstone-ian-richard-gaming-casino-evolution-netent-a4479091.html

[Bkk Brian]

22 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You aren’t aware these two Livingstone brothers are in the buy-to-let business? Perhaps you think their interests in the buy-to-let business are philosophic.

 

As for not being aware that the Livingstone brothers made hundreds of £millions from online gambling during the pandemic, perhaps you feel a need to defend rich folk without knowing where they make their money?!

 

https://www.knightbainlettings.co.uk/blog/livingston-landlrds.html

 

https://www.standard.co.uk/business/livingstone-ian-richard-gaming-casino-evolution-netent-a4479091.html

The property website is referring to Livingston in Scotland. It is based in West Lothian, its nothing to do with the brothers  

 

As for their online casino business in the US that was not disputed

 

So still waiting for these links

[Nick Carter icp]

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You aren’t aware these two Livingstone brothers are in the buy-to-let business? Perhaps you think their interests in the buy-to-let business are philanthropic.

 

As for not being aware that the Livingstone brothers made hundreds of £millions from online gambling during the pandemic, perhaps you feel a need to defend rich folk without knowing where they make their money?!

 

https://www.knightbainlettings.co.uk/blog/livingston-landlrds.html

 

 

 

 The link that you provided is for  Livingston landlord 

Livingston landlords are different to the Livingstone brothers in the O.P.

Livingston and Livingstone are spelled differently and are different entities  .

Livingston landlords 

Livingstone Brothers .

Two different thing , just like the EDL and EDF are two different things

[Nick Carter icp]

13 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You aren’t aware these two Livingstone brothers are in the buy-to-let business? Perhaps you think their interests in the buy-to-let business are philanthropic.

 

As for not being aware that the Livingstone brothers made hundreds of £millions from online gambling during the pandemic, perhaps you feel a need to defend rich folk without knowing where they make their money?!

 

https://www.knightbainlettings.co.uk/blog/livingston-landlrds.html

 

https://www.standard.co.uk/business/livingstone-ian-richard-gaming-casino-evolution-netent-a4479091.html

 

   Don't forget about their Grandad Ken leading the GLC 🙂

And their great great great Grandfather David who explored Africa 🙂

[jayboy]

12 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 The link that you provided is for  Livingston landlord 

Livingston landlords are different to the Livingstone brothers in the O.P.

Livingston and Livingstone are spelled differently and are different entities  .

Livingston landlords 

Livingstone Brothers .

Two different thing , just like the EDL and EDF are two different things

 

He's got himself confused and has been inattentive in his googling, mixing up a mid scale Scottish buy to let outfit with the massive Livingstone Brothers commercial empire,He should make a grovelling apology but of course he won't.He also priggishly implies that the gaming industry is somehow tainted - which of course it isn't if properly regulated.

 

The bigger issue is that this fellow can't accept that an exodus of wealthy talented entrepreneurs and businessmen from the UK has any adverse effect.It's what dickheads like Clive Lewis and Richard Burgon say.It's not at all what Keir Starmer and Rachel Reeves believe - and we can expect movement on this front.

[Nick Carter icp]

9 minutes ago, jayboy said:

 

He's got himself confused and has been inattentive in his googling, mixing up a mid scale Scottish buy to let outfit with the massive Livingstone Brothers commercial empire,He should make a grovelling apology but of course he won't.He also priggishly implies that the gaming industry is somehow tainted - which of course it isn't if properly regulated.

 

The bigger issue is that this fellow can't accept that an exodus of wealthy talented entrepreneurs and businessmen from the UK has any adverse effect.It's what dickheads like Clive Lewis and Richard Burgon say.It's not at all what Keir Starmer and Rachel Reeves believe - and we can expect movement on this front.

 

   The Livingstone Brothers from the O.P , were actually property developers .

   Buying old buildings and renovating them , although some people will probably be appalled that they then sold them and made a profit 

[Chomper Higgot]

11 minutes ago, jayboy said:

 

He's got himself confused and has been inattentive in his googling, mixing up a mid scale Scottish buy to let outfit with the massive Livingstone Brothers commercial empire,He should make a grovelling apology but of course he won't.He also priggishly implies that the gaming industry is somehow tainted - which of course it isn't if properly regulated.

 

The bigger issue is that this fellow can't accept that an exodus of wealthy talented entrepreneurs and businessmen from the UK has any adverse effect.It's what dickheads like Clive Lewis and Richard Burgon say.It's not at all what Keir Starmer and Rachel Reeves believe - and we can expect movement on this front.

Let’s be clear.

 

I don’t have a problem with a couple of Non Doms leaving while leaving the vast majority of their assets in the UK.

 

 

The bigger question is how did two British citizens, born in the UK and living in the UK get to be non-doms in the first place?!

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Let’s be clear.

 

I don’t have a problem with a couple of Non Doms leaving while leaving the vast majority of their assets in the UK.

 

 

The bigger question is how did two British citizens, born in the UK and living in the UK get to be non-doms in the first place?!

 

 

Lets be even clearer. The bigger question is that you have not acknowledged your false claims and the fact is the UK will now be losing money by them going along with the hundreds of others that have already left

[Nick Carter icp]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Let’s be clear.

 

I don’t have a problem with a couple of Non Doms leaving while leaving the vast majority of their assets in the UK.

 

 

The bigger question is how did two British citizens, born in the UK and living in the UK get to be non-doms in the first place?!

 

 

 

   Lakshi Mittal, one of the UKs richest people and a huge doner to the Labour Party is also reported to be leaving the UK because of Labours new tax rules 

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Lakshi Mittal, one of the UKs richest people and a huge doner to the Labour Party is also reported to be leaving the UK because of Labours new tax rules 

Good riddance 

 

I’ve already stated my view that personal donations to political parties should be limited to around a maximum of £1000/year.

 

I’ll add company donations should be banned altogether.

 

Enough of this buying political influence, regardless of which political party is on the receiving end of the purchase.

[Bkk Brian]

14 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Good riddance 

 

I’ve already stated my view that personal donations to political parties should be limited to around a maximum of £1000/year.

 

I’ll add company donations should be banned altogether.

 

Enough of this buying political influence, regardless of which political party is on the receiving end of the purchase.

Sounds like you actually want the UK to lose billions in taxes and put a higher burden on the working class. You have no problem lying as proven in the false claims you already made that it's hard to believe anything you say

[jayboy]

24 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The bigger question is how did two British citizens, born in the UK and living in the UK get to be non-doms in the first place?!

 

The staggeringly ignorant comments continue.The Livingstone brothers are not non-doms.The speculation is that they left because of this government's changes to inheritance tax relief but there are probably many other reasons.