New Report Reveals Hawk pilot Capt. Rebecca Lobach did not comply with critical directions

[Yagoda]

On 4/29/2025 at 9:05 AM, Presnock said:

yeah and based on this latest report, I even wonder why checkout flights were ever allowed in such areas.  The pilot obviuosly didn't pay attention to the "turn" and yeah the altitude problem with the helicopter sure didn't help either.

My exact thought, why are check out flights like this being run out of an incredibly congested airport.

[Presnock]

13 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

My exact thought, why are check out flights like this being run out of an incredibly congested airport.

 

13 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

My exact thought, why are check out flights like this being run out of an incredibly congested airport.

since this crash, DOD and FAA have halted those flights  in that area as everyone has noted, too frigging crowded for checkout flights.

[impulse]

52 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Please explain how you managed to reach that conclusion, which id completely at odds with the official AAIB conclusion?

 

Were you on the investigation team? Do you have access to information that the investigators were not privy? Or are you spouting BS as many posters seem to do?

 

How much aircraft accident investigation training have you had?

 

Taking this accident by itself, there's some doubt.  But when you add that to the recent revelations that the FAA declined to consider white male applicants for air traffic controllers, and that the DC tower was undermanned on the day of the crash, it doesn't look good for DEI policies. 

 

And that's before you consider all the experienced ATCs that lost their jobs to the Covid jab mandates.

 

[proton]

21 hours ago, Watawattana said:

She must have passed her flying exams to the required standard.  This was an annual flight evaluation, so she was a qualified pilot.  The fact that's she female is irrelevant, there should have been no allowances made to her based on gender (if there was then those accountable should be held to account).  If she was incompetent throughout her entire career (and it seems she was incompetent in this instance).  There's been no evidence that I've seen of her ongoing incompetence, including not being good enough to get her wings.   The investigation will uncover her piloting record and it'll likely become public domain.  Aviation accidents usually get looked into in such a depth that pretty much everything and anything will come out.

 

But yeah, I expect there's a a lot in this that if money wasn't wasted on DEI 💩 then all these people would still be with their familes.  Money spent on DEI isn't being spent on procedures, training and systems that would have avoided this crash.  Money spend on useless layers of management isn't being spent on procedures, training and systems that would have avoided this crash.

 

This was an accident waiting to happen; a completely avoidable accident.  Apparently there had been 100s of incidents around this airport that should have been acted upon, but were not, and the procedures were not changed when they should have been.  Although it's easy to blame the pilot, I think it's better blame the pilot AND investigate why she was put into this position in the first place.  DEI is a convenient excuse, but I'm not swallowing that; the root cause in my opinion is far deeper within the culture of the FAA than just the easy 'out' of blaming the woman.  "Safety First" seems not to exist in the FAA.

 

Not necessarily, so desperate have they been for diversity she may have passed her exams with less ability, just for being a women. Most can't even park a car well, never mind fly choppers

[Keep Right]

The truth finally comes out and this woman was a loyal Biden supporter. Lets celebrate Diversity..........

[impulse]

7 hours ago, Keep Right said:

The truth finally comes out and this woman was a loyal Biden supporter. Lets celebrate Diversity..........

 

Kinda like the head of Secret Service during the Trump assassination attempts had worked on the team that protected Dr Jill, then became head of the USSC, by ticking those 2 boxes.  Female and Dr Jill approved.  That worked out great, too.

 

[impulse]

7 hours ago, proton said:

 

Not necessarily, so desperate have they been for diversity she may have passed her exams with less ability, just for being a women. Most can't even park a car well, never mind fly choppers

 

That's a simple math problem.  It's like when I graduated in mechanical engineering in a class of 250, with about 6 of them being women and blacks.  If companies had wanted to hire more than 12 engineers with a 50% female ratio, they'd have had to hire well into the bottom 50% of the females.  If they wanted to hire 20 engineers with half being female, they'd have been SOL.  That's how DEI works.

 

Or they could have hired 125 engineers and chosen only from the top 50%.  But they'd have to give up their notion of DEI.

[proton]

8 hours ago, Keep Right said:

The truth finally comes out and this woman was a loyal Biden supporter. Lets celebrate Diversity..........

 

Diversity deaths

[Tug]

On 4/29/2025 at 3:09 PM, thesetat said:

How many women actually listen to a man? Especially in a stress situation. I am sure the air traffic controller was a man also that she was not listening to. She was in control of the craft. It does not matter what anyone else said or did not say. She did not listen or comply with critical instructions which caused the crash killing so many. 

Wow I’m wondering how you feel about our cosplay homeland security chief the puppy killer?

[thesetat]

5 minutes ago, Tug said:

Wow I’m wondering how you feel about our cosplay homeland security chief the puppy killer?

Typical Tug. Can not retort with anything so resorts to distraction. I would say he was in control of the puppy when he killed it. He did not listen to others perhaps haha... What does your retort have to do with the issue about the helicopter crashing and evidence that the female pilot did not adhere or listen to critical instructions which led to the killing of so many people? 

[stevenl]

10 minutes ago, thesetat said:

Typical Tug. Can not retort with anything so resorts to distraction. I would say he was in control of the puppy when he killed it. He did not listen to others perhaps haha... What does your retort have to do with the issue about the helicopter crashing and evidence that the female pilot did not adhere or listen to critical instructions which led to the killing of so many people? 

You made a totally ridiculous and sexist remark and then expect people to ignore that. 

[thesetat]

10 minutes ago, stevenl said:

You made a totally ridiculous and sexist remark and then expect people to ignore that. 

You took it as sexist. Perhaps I offended your feminine gene. I posted as someone with experience in this. Up to you to think what you want... 

The Op was about a female. She did not listen to what she was being ttold that could have saved the lives of so many. You want to make it into more, fine.. Does not change the facts.