Blair says current net zero policies 'doomed to fail'

[johng]

3 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

Oh does it? 🥱

 

Yes it does, you don't seem concerned..why not ?

[BritManToo]

55 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

Firstly the article did NOT say they they were becoming more frequent, but it does say they ARE becoming more intense and there are plenty of other references to that effect. Here's just one below. I'd would tend toward the science rather than an anonymous poster.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42251921

CNN says the opposite

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/27/weather/tropical-cyclone-frequency-21st-century-climate/index.html

 

And in 2024-2025 ....... longest storm less streak in 50 years

https://www.accuweather.com/en/hurricane/5-reasons-behind-the-historic-absence-of-tropical-storms-this-hurricane-season/1688808

[Moonlover]

4 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

CNN says the opposite

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/27/weather/tropical-cyclone-frequency-21st-century-climate/index.html

 

And in 2025 ....... longest storm less streak in 50 years

https://www.accuweather.com/en/hurricane/5-reasons-behind-the-historic-absence-of-tropical-storms-this-hurricane-season/1688808

I'm not talking about the number of hurricanes, I'm talking about the intensity of them. And from the article you have just referenced:

 

'Savin Chand, a senior lecturer at the Federation University in Australia, while there may be fewer tropical cyclones in the future, it is likely they will be more intense'.

 

Which is more or less what the BBC article said.

[Moonlover]

12 minutes ago, johng said:

12 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

Oh does it? 🥱

 

12 minutes ago, johng said:

 

Yes it does, you don't seem concerned..why not ?

Because it is very unlikely that this will ever affect me.

[BritManToo]

7 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

I'm not talking about the number of hurricanes, I'm talking about the intensity of them. And from the article you have just referenced:

 

'Savin Chand, a senior lecturer at the Federation University in Australia, while there may be fewer tropical cyclones in the future, it is likely they will be more intense'.

 

Which is more or less what the BBC article said.

Longest storm less streak in 50 years, so the storms they aren't having are of higher intensity?

Only a lefty could say that!

[johng]

28 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

 

Because it is very unlikely that this will ever affect me.

You're ok then Jack.

[thesetat]

11 hours ago, Social Media said:

Meanwhile, emissions from countries such as China, India, and those in Southeast Asia are projected to make up two-thirds of global carbon output by the end of this decade. Notably, China’s increase in emissions last year alone exceeded the entire carbon dioxide output of the UK.

This is a horrid thing, but not totally unexpected when you look at the haze over Thailand daily. these countries really need to do something or the world will be breathing from oxygen tanks in the future. 

[rickudon]

On 5/1/2025 at 5:00 AM, Presnock said:

totally agree with Mr. Blair on this issue.  To totally replace oil-based fuels for vehicles with electric vehicles when many places are already having rolling blackouts due to high use of the currrent electrity available.  I saw one report that said if one is building an electric vehicle manuracturing plant, first they needed to build an electricity generating plant in that area.  with global temperatures reportedly rising at an alarming rate, a/c will be required by many folks making the situation even worse. IMHO anyway.

So when did these rolling power cuts take place? Yes, in January they came close due to an interconnector outage, Last time i remember one was the 1970s!

 

Obviously some power cuts do occur due to storm damage and maintenance. Nothing to do with renewable power. i agree that maybe shutting down the last coal fired station was a bit premature, UK does need to put some energy storage in place; the technology is there, just to tight to fork out the money for it. Gas is what keeps electricity prices high - the sooner we can get rid of it for electricity generation, those electric bills will come down.

[rickudon]

On 5/1/2025 at 1:48 PM, BritManToo said:

And in 2024-2025 ....... longest storm less streak in 50 years

Laughable cherry picked data - it refers to about one month!

 

ACTUAL storms in the 2024 season - 

 

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The 2024 Atlantic hurricane season was a very active and extremely destructive Atlantic hurricane season that became the third-costliest on record, behind only 2017 and 2005. The season featured 18 named storms, 11 hurricanes, and 5 major hurricanes; it was also the first since 2019 to feature multiple Category 5 hurricanes. Additionally, the season had the highest accumulated cyclone energy (ACE) rating since 2020, with a value of 161.6 units. The season officially began on June 1, and ended on November 30. These dates, adopted by convention, have historically described the period in each year when most subtropical or tropical cyclogenesis occurs in the Atlantic Ocean.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Atlantic_hurricane_season

[Presnock]

33 minutes ago, rickudon said:

So when did these rolling power cuts take place? Yes, in January they came close due to an interconnector outage, Last time i remember one was the 1970s!

 

Obviously some power cuts do occur due to storm damage and maintenance. Nothing to do with renewable power. i agree that maybe shutting down the last coal fired station was a bit premature, UK does need to put some energy storage in place; the technology is there, just to tight to fork out the money for it. Gas is what keeps electricity prices high - the sooner we can get rid of it for electricity generation, those electric bills will come down.

depends on the country of course and in the US depends on the states and their population...some states fewer folks, but even so, the northern states have to buy electricity from Canada.  US produces cars for domestic market of over 11 million vehicles a year - these are gasoline use and to change all to electric would take a hell of a lot of electricity.  At the same time they are trying to rid the US of coal based electric companies - folks don't want nuke so that is a lot of wind farms.  Some rivers are already running dry so water power won't be the answer either.  a lot of this is common sense. IMHO anyway.