US Pushes Forward with Private Aid Plan for Gaza Amid UN Opposition

[SamSaraburi]

Surely even the diehard supporters of Israel condemn this almost daily killing of Palestinians.

Dreadful.

[Bkk Brian]

3 hours ago, SamSaraburi said:

Surely even the diehard supporters of Israel condemn this almost daily killing of Palestinians.

Dreadful.

Yes, Hamas fake reporting and its attacks on aid workers and civilians is dreadful. 

[Evil Penevil]

2 hours ago, SamSaraburi said:

Surely even the diehard supporters of Israel condemn this almost daily killing of Palestinians.

Dreadful.

 

I am a diehard supporter of Israel and I most certainly condemn the killing of civilians, Israeli and Palestinian, by Hamas.  The disregard for Palestinian lives shown by Hamas is indeed dreadful and should be condemned by everyone.  

[bannork]

The US State Department has approved $30 million in funding for the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, the State Department said on Thursday, calling on other countries to also support the controversial group delivering aid in war-torn Gaza.

 

"This support is simply the latest iteration of President Trump's and Secretary Rubio's pursuit of peace in the region," State Department deputy spokesperson Tommy Pigott told reporters at a regular news briefing.

 

Reuters was first to report the move earlier this week.

 

US to give $30 million to Gaza Humanitarian Foundation despite violence concerns

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

“We call on other countries to also support the GHF….a track record of distributing over 46 million meals distributed to date, all while preventing Hamas’ looting is ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE and should be COMMENDED and SUPPORTED. From day one, we said we are open to creative solutions that securely provide aid to those in Gaza and protects Israel. The support is simply the latest iteration of 
@POTUS's and @SecRubio's pursuit of peace in the region.” @StateDept  Principal Deputy Spokesperson Tommy Piggot

 

 

[bannork]

Johnnie Moore, executive director of GHF, told Sky News that there is a "disinformation campaign" that is "meant to shut down our efforts" in the Gaza Strip, fuelled by "some figures" coming out every day.

 

"We're not contesting at all that there have been casualties in the Gaza Strip. I mean, there's no ceasefire. This is an active conflict," Mr Moore said.

 

"I think people may not understand as clearly what it means to operate a humanitarian operation on this scale, in an environment this complex, in a piece of land as small as the Gaza Strip, and may not appreciate that almost anything that happens in the Gaza Strip is going to take place in proximity to something."

 

Head of controversial Gaza aid group calls UN data on deaths 'disinformation'

 

[Bkk Brian]

11 minutes ago, bannork said:

Johnnie Moore, executive director of GHF, told Sky News that there is a "disinformation campaign" that is "meant to shut down our efforts" in the Gaza Strip, fuelled by "some figures" coming out every day.

 

"We're not contesting at all that there have been casualties in the Gaza Strip. I mean, there's no ceasefire. This is an active conflict," Mr Moore said.

 

"I think people may not understand as clearly what it means to operate a humanitarian operation on this scale, in an environment this complex, in a piece of land as small as the Gaza Strip, and may not appreciate that almost anything that happens in the Gaza Strip is going to take place in proximity to something."

 

Head of controversial Gaza aid group calls UN data on deaths 'disinformation'

 

Well of course he's not disputing there are deaths in Gaza, its a frigging war zone! Some of his own aid workers have been killed by Hamas in Gaza.

[bannork]

Aitor Zabalgogeaskoa, the Gaza emergency coordinator at Médecins Sans Frontières, said:

The four distribution sites, all located in areas under the full control of Israeli forces after people had been forcibly displaced from there, are the size of football fields surrounded by watch points, mounds of earth and barbed wire.

 

The fenced entrance gives only one access point in or out. GHF workers drop the pallets and the boxes of food and open the fences, allowing thousands in all at once to fight down to the last grain of rice.

 

Israeli-US food distribution scheme in Gaza is ‘slaughter masquerading as aid’ says MSF – Middle East crisis live

 

 

 

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[coolcarer]

33 minutes ago, bannork said:

Aitor Zabalgogeaskoa, the Gaza emergency coordinator at Médecins Sans Frontières, said:

The four distribution sites, all located in areas under the full control of Israeli forces after people had been forcibly displaced from there, are the size of football fields surrounded by watch points, mounds of earth and barbed wire.

 

The fenced entrance gives only one access point in or out. GHF workers drop the pallets and the boxes of food and open the fences, allowing thousands in all at once to fight down to the last grain of rice.

 

Israeli-US food distribution scheme in Gaza is ‘slaughter masquerading as aid’ says MSF – Middle East crisis live

 

 

 

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Hamas doesn’t want this life saving aid given out free by GHF to work either. They go as far as murdering it’s workers and Gazans 

[Somjot]

On 6/25/2025 at 7:07 PM, Evil Penevil said:

 

I am a diehard supporter of Israel and I most certainly condemn the killing of civilians, Israeli and Palestinian, by Hamas.  The disregard for Palestinian lives shown by Hamas is indeed dreadful and should be condemned by everyone.  

 

That is very praiseworthy.

 

But how do you see The disregard for Palestinian lives, cities, hospitals, help workers, doctors, journalists, schools, refugee camps, children`s lives, and, and ,and shown by ISRAEL? Should it also be condemned by everyone?

 

If yes, why haven`t you until now?

 

If no, why? 

[Nick Carter icp]

17 minutes ago, Somjot said:

And if Hamas is really shooting at their own people at the distribution sites, wouldn't that be a perfect occasion for the IDF to come and get them

 

   Headline next day :

   IDF kills 38 innocent Palestinians queuing up for food 

[Evil Penevil]

1 hour ago, Somjot said:

 

That is very praiseworthy.

 

But how do you see The disregard for Palestinian lives, cities, hospitals, help workers, doctors, journalists, schools, refugee camps, children`s lives, and, and ,and shown by ISRAEL? Should it also be condemned by everyone?

 

If yes, why haven`t you until now?

 

If no, why? 

 

I don't accept the phrasing of your questions.  I don't believe Israel has shown disregard for "Palestinian lives, cities, hospitals, help workers, doctors, journalists, schools, refugee camps, children`s lives, and, and ,and ..."  I believe Israel has shown as much regard for Palestinian lives and property as is possible during urban warfare in the Gaza Strip.  An unfortunately high number of non-combatant lives have been lost and many buildings and much infrastructure has been destroyed, but  hat's due to the strategy and tactics of Hamas which turn civilians and civilian facilities into legitimate military targets.  Hamas hides fighters and military equipment in protected sites such as schools, hospitals and apartment buildings, and the Palestinians in whose name it claims to be acting pay the price.

 

John Spencer, an expert on urban warfare, has been quoted on this issue in several threads on AN.  I'll quote him again, because he is spot on.  https://www.newsweek.com/israel-has-created-new-standard-urban-warfare-why-will-no-one-admit-it-opinion-1883286

"But all available evidence shows that Israel has followed the laws of war, legal obligations, best practices in civilian harm mitigation and still found a way to reduce civilian casualties to historically low levels.

"Those calling for Israel to find an alternative to inflicting civilian casualties to lower amounts (like zero) should be honest that this alternative would leave the Israeli hostages in captivity and allow Hamas to survive the war. The alternative to a nation's survival cannot be a path to extinction."

 

The sentence I put in bold text is the overriding reason why Israel should not be condemned.  It is fighting for its survival against a terrorist group which seeks to destroy Israel and massacre its citizens.  The tactics used by Hamas, mainly hiding among non-combatants, force Israel to use harsh responses to defeat it.

 

[bannork]

UN Secretary-General António Guterres on Friday called for an immediate ceasefire between Israel and the Palestinian Islamist Hamas militia, as the humanitarian crisis in the Gaza Strp reaches "horrific proportions."

 

"The search for food must never be a death sentence," he said, indirectly referring to the humanitarian aid distribution centres operated by the controversial Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF) in Gaza.

 

According to UN figures, at least 410 Palestinians have been killed near GHF food distribution points since the end of May. Operations that direct civilians into zones controlled by the military are unsafe.

 

UN's Guterres calls for immediate Gaza ceasefire

[bannork]

The Israeli military prosecutor's office is investigating whether war crimes may have been committed in connection with shots fired at Palestinians near aid centres in the Gaza Strip, Israeli media reported on Friday.

 

Soldiers fire on people to keep them away from the centres before they open, the report said. "It's a killing field," said a member of the army who had been there himself.

"They're treated like a hostile force – no crowd-control measures, no tear gas – just live fire with everything imaginable: heavy machine guns, grenade launchers, mortars."

 

Report: Israel probes for war crimes over Gaza aid centre shootings

[Bkk Brian]

2 hours ago, bannork said:

UN Secretary-General António Guterres on Friday called for an immediate ceasefire between Israel and the Palestinian Islamist Hamas militia, as the humanitarian crisis in the Gaza Strp reaches "horrific proportions."

 

"The search for food must never be a death sentence," he said, indirectly referring to the humanitarian aid distribution centres operated by the controversial Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF) in Gaza.

 

According to UN figures, at least 410 Palestinians have been killed near GHF food distribution points since the end of May. Operations that direct civilians into zones controlled by the military are unsafe.

 

UN's Guterres calls for immediate Gaza ceasefire

You missed out this important bit, there would be a ceasefire today if that Hamas did that!!

 

"Guterres repeated his three urgent steps: an immediate ceasefire, the unconditional release of all hostages, and full, unimpeded humanitarian access."

 

If the hostages had been released unconditionally as they should have been months and months ago there would be no war now.

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, bannork said:

The Israeli military prosecutor's office is investigating whether war crimes may have been committed in connection with shots fired at Palestinians near aid centres in the Gaza Strip, Israeli media reported on Friday.

 

Soldiers fire on people to keep them away from the centres before they open, the report said. "It's a killing field," said a member of the army who had been there himself.

"They're treated like a hostile force – no crowd-control measures, no tear gas – just live fire with everything imaginable: heavy machine guns, grenade launchers, mortars."

 

Report: Israel probes for war crimes over Gaza aid centre shootings

Highly misleading from un named sources. 

[Bkk Brian]

From Israel Foreign Ministry:

 

In response to the remarks of UN Secretary-General António Guterres:

Blaming Israel for the UN’s failures and for Hamas’s deeds is a deliberate tactic.
The GHF has so far provided more than 46 million meals directly to Palestinian civilians, not to Hamas. Yet the UN is doing everything it can to oppose this effort. In doing so, the UN is aligning itself with Hamas, which is also trying to sabotage the GHF’s humanitarian operations.

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[Bkk Brian]

'Gaza disinformation campaign is deliberate' Speaking to Sky's @GarethBarlow the chief of the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, Johnnie Moore, has called figures by the United Nations on people killed at aid hubs "disinformation"

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

I’m not at all sure what reasonable explanation there is for such reported obscenity.

 

As the linked article states the Israeli military prosecutor's office is investigating whether war crimes may have been committed in connection with shots fired at Palestinians near aid centres in the Gaza Strip.

 

If the Haaretz report is true then it’s a little more than ‘shots fired’:

“The Haaretz report said according to soldiers and officers in Gaza, "the army has deliberately fired at Palestinians near aid distribution sites."

Soldiers fire on people to keep them away from the centres before they open, the report said. "It's a killing field," said a member of the army who had been there himself.

"They're treated like a hostile force – no crowd-control measures, no tear gas – just live fire with everything imaginable: heavy machine guns, grenade launchers, mortars."

While we await the outcome of the investigation it’s clear excuses already being offered  by people not present at these events can only be ‘unsubstantiated’.

 

 

 

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/report-israel-probes-for-war-crimes-over-gaza-aid-centre-shootings/ar-AA1HyRfo?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ACTS&cvid=38010710a4314dd5ec223df0b1bafe2f&ei=6

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m not at all sure what reasonable explanation there is for such reported obscenity.

 

As the linked article states the Israeli military prosecutor's office is investigating whether war crimes may have been committed in connection with shots fired at Palestinians near aid centres in the Gaza Strip.

 

If the Haaretz report is true then it’s a little more than ‘shots fired’:

“The Haaretz report said according to soldiers and officers in Gaza, "the army has deliberately fired at Palestinians near aid distribution sites."

Soldiers fire on people to keep them away from the centres before they open, the report said. "It's a killing field," said a member of the army who had been there himself.

"They're treated like a hostile force – no crowd-control measures, no tear gas – just live fire with everything imaginable: heavy machine guns, grenade launchers, mortars."

While we await the outcome of the investigation it’s clear excuses already being offered  by people not present at these events can only be ‘unsubstantiated’.

 

 

 

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/report-israel-probes-for-war-crimes-over-gaza-aid-centre-shootings/ar-AA1HyRfo?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ACTS&cvid=38010710a4314dd5ec223df0b1bafe2f&ei=6

All allegations made by un named sources. You of all people should know what that means. Read the topic where differing clans and Hamas have been fighting it out at aid centers and where Hamas has been killing GHF aid workers trying to give out food.

 

"The Israeli army “strongly rejected” the accusations in the report.

“Any allegation of a deviation from the law or [military] directives will be thoroughly examined, and further action will be taken as necessary,” read a military statement published on Telegram.

“The allegations of deliberate fire toward civilians presented in the article are not recognized in the field,” it said."