Palestine , Who (you) Should Help Them ...

[ChicagoExpat]

13 hours ago, billd766 said:

Don't forget Irgun, the Stern gang or Likud, another unnecessary orgy of bloodshed brought to you by... Israel.

The topic is how Arabs view Palestinians.  Do you need another cookie to stay on topic?  Because if you're going to bring in extraneous topics you'll lose -- the Palestinian/Iranian/Muslim side of things will ALWAYS be 10,000 times worse than anything Israel has done (or pre-Israel, in this case).
 

The difference is I haven't set up one side as a group of saints as you seem to have done, and I have no interest in defending anything bad Irgun etc did.  If you want to start a new thread on those groups, go for it.

[ChicagoExpat]

14 hours ago, billd766 said:

Who appointed you as the Grand Poo Bah to decide who posts what on any forum?

 

Obviously you seem to have no idea of the Israeli ideas for Gaza so here are some links to point you in a sensible direction. They are all freely available on the open internet, IF you choose to look. So run along now and read them though you may have problems as some of them are big words.

 

Have you ever heard of Daniella Weiss?

 

Try looking at and reading this item. It should be safe for you to read as it is an article from The Jewish Chronicle. 

 

https://www.thejc.com/news/israel/who-is-daniella-weiss-the-godmother-of-israels-settler-movement-now-calling-for-a-return-to-gaza-j0xq8l8h

 

Or this one

 

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/25/g-s1-29726/israel-gaza-jewish-settlers-strategy-netanyahu

 

or 1 from the BBC News website  

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68650815

 

A snip from this post.  

There are about 700,000 Jewish settlers in these areas now and settler numbers are rising fast.

The vast majority of the international community considers settlements illegal under international law, including the United Nations Security Council. Israel disputes this.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/06/hamas-israel-hunger-war-in-gaza

 

A snip from the link.

 

An Israeli government minister has vowed that “Gaza will be entirely destroyed” as a result of an Israeli military victory, and that its Palestinian population will “leave in great numbers to third countries”, raising fears of ethnic cleansing in the occupied territory.

The declaration on Tuesday by the finance minister, Bezalel Smotrich, came a day after Israel’s security cabinet approved a plan for Operation Gideon’s Chariots, which an Israeli official said would entail “the conquest of the Gaza Strip and the holding of the territories”.

First, "Poobah" is one word, not two.

 

Sorry, I don't go chasing down links in comment posts.  That said, it appears most of what you posted is post-October 7.  OF COURSE you're going to get demagogues like Smotrich getting a hearing after a massacre like that.

 

And -- I don't support the settlers.  Or Smotrich.  I'm against the settlements in the West Bank.  You keep flailing and failing, because you assume what I believe.  But you're wrong.

 

Here's (some of) my thesis, rage against this:  1) The Palestinians are their own worst enemies.  They CONSTANTLY support brutal violence against the Jews even when it will result in a horrific reprisal... ESPECIALLY when it will result in a horrific reprisal.  Polling in Gaza shows consistent, long-term support for terror.  They and their leaders have rejected peace again and again.  As famously said about them, "Palestinians have never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity."

2) I don't support Israeli encroachment into the West Bank.  I think the only fair and REALISTIC future is for Palestine to someday become an ACTUAL country... but to do that they have to forgo their death cult version of Islam and Palestinian identity.  They also have to recognize that Israel isn't going anywhere and wishing for the violent deaths of Israel's Jewish population is self-defeating.

[ChicagoExpat]

15 hours ago, billd766 said:

Who appointed you as the Grand Poo Bah to decide who posts what on any forum?

 

Obviously you seem to have no idea of the Israeli ideas for Gaza so here are some links to point you in a sensible direction. They are all freely available on the open internet, IF you choose to look. So run along now and read them though you may have problems as some of them are big words.

 

Have you ever heard of Daniella Weiss?

 

Try looking at and reading this item. It should be safe for you to read as it is an article from The Jewish Chronicle. 

 

https://www.thejc.com/news/israel/who-is-daniella-weiss-the-godmother-of-israels-settler-movement-now-calling-for-a-return-to-gaza-j0xq8l8h

 

Or this one

 

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/25/g-s1-29726/israel-gaza-jewish-settlers-strategy-netanyahu

 

or 1 from the BBC News website  

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68650815

 

A snip from this post.  

There are about 700,000 Jewish settlers in these areas now and settler numbers are rising fast.

The vast majority of the international community considers settlements illegal under international law, including the United Nations Security Council. Israel disputes this.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/06/hamas-israel-hunger-war-in-gaza

 

A snip from the link.

 

An Israeli government minister has vowed that “Gaza will be entirely destroyed” as a result of an Israeli military victory, and that its Palestinian population will “leave in great numbers to third countries”, raising fears of ethnic cleansing in the occupied territory.

The declaration on Tuesday by the finance minister, Bezalel Smotrich, came a day after Israel’s security cabinet approved a plan for Operation Gideon’s Chariots, which an Israeli official said would entail “the conquest of the Gaza Strip and the holding of the territories”.

Referring to your outrage over being told to run along -- that was a pretty gentle response to someone who trivializes Naziism and the Holocaust with your sh!tty little "lebensraum" comment.  If you want to be treated like a serious person, and an adult, act like it.

 

At least you got a cookie out of it.

 

Want to know why Israeli is still carrying out military operations?  A reminder that the side you support has said they would do October 7 again, and again, and again, and again, and again.  What would you do, if you were Israel?

[cdemundo]

I hope the Palestinians can find leadership that looks to the future and to the well-being of the Palestinian people.

Historically their leadership has failed them.