One Big Beautiful Bill? More Like One Big Bloody Oversized Stich-Up, Bruv

[save the frogs]

11 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Yeah relying on "information" from Fox and direct white house sources is the US equivalent of a Russian relying on Kremlin propaganda and state tv. Not credible in the slightest.

 

Yeah, your sources are credible.

Lewie London is turning into a credible source for you folks. 

What a joke.

 

[candide]

Didn't Trump promise to reduce the debt burden? 😆

 

"The package would cut taxes deeply – essentially making permanent the sweeping individual income tax provisions of Trump’s 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, as well as adding several temporary tax breaks to fulfill the president’s campaign promises.

 

It also calls for historic cuts to the nation’s safety net – particularly Medicaid and food stamps – in an effort to cut spending.

 

But the tax revenue loss would still swamp the spending reductions. The package would add $3.3 trillion to the nation’s debt over the next decade, according to a preliminary estimate from the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget.

 

Annual deficits would jump from $1.8 trillion in 2024 to $2.9 trillion by 2034 as the federal government would continue to spend more than it would raise in revenue, the committee projected."

 

The United States just lost its last perfect credit rating

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/16/business/moody-us-credit

[Jingthing]

24 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Yeah, your sources are credible.

Lewie London is turning into a credible source for you folks. 

What a joke.

 

Do your own research as the maga types love to say (but don't except to feed their conspiracy theories) and you will find there are much more objective sources of information.

[BLMFem]

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

 

But who really lies more?

The president or the media poisoning people's minds with all sorts of nonsense? 

 

Trump.

That was easy, next question please.

[BLMFem]

8 hours ago, flexomike said:

 

 

Wow, that's so original. You must be really smart.

[BLMFem]

35 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

I just came across this web site which reinforces the idea that Trump wants to cut Medicaid.

And they have another really poignant article here entitled "Republicans Want You to Die". 

 

So these folks are not only telling you Trump will cut Medicaid, but that he flat out wants people to die. 

https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/republicans-want-you-to-die

 

I truly surrender. And this time I mean it. I am no longer posting in any more Trump threads.

There are an army of media people out there making all sorts of claims. 

Who knows what people are filling their minds with?

Believe whatever you want.

It's way too much work to debate with people.

 

Maybe Trump will cut Medicaid and does want you to die. What do I know? 

 

I officially SURRENDER. 

 

 

Aw, c'mon, like you can stay away from "Lewie London's" addictive threads!

[StandardIssue]

9 hours ago, gargamon said:

MAGA is imploding.

 

The big beautiful bill has been blocked by House GOP.

 

Supreme Court blocks Trump from restarting Alien Enemies Act deportations.

 

More to follow. Supreme court to rule on birthright citizenship and nationwide injunctions by a district court judge. Expect major losses for MAGA.

 

 

 

What's sad is most MAGA folks don't recongize MAGA is the propaganda front for GOP and their upper crust elites and uber rich to grab more money, power and control.

Meanwhile Fox News is doing there magical crazy spin on all this (or just down right directing attention away) from the rip-off job being put over on the middle and lower classes of the USA.

 

Destroy Education  (don't like educated folks because they think for themselves and resist power grabs)

Keep them divided - Fox News and right-wing media making liberals (who are in favor of equity to all people) into demons and telling everyone to not listen (because of course this doesn't match GOP agenda of making the uber rich richer)

 

I could go on but one of the greatest intellectuals around, Noam Chomsky, is well recognized as spelling out  all this right-wing political  behavior and it's very detrimental effects on the lower and middle classes.

 

 

[GanDoonToonPet]

16 hours ago, Lewie London said:

Trump reckons he’s gonna scrap taxes on overtime, tips, and Social Security.

 

For the workers

 

16 hours ago, Lewie London said:

he’s payin’ for all that by gutting Medicaid and food stamps

 

For the shirkers

 

16 hours ago, Lewie London said:

They’re slashin’ Medicaid by nearly 900 billion quid, lads. That’s not a budget cut, that’s a Mexican Necktie

 

Quite an achievement. Even if you take that as US$, isn't that around 150% of current federal funding for Medicaid? 🤔

[Fat is a type of crazy]

9 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Oh no, not another post for the bedwetting lefties and the crybaby democrats, who it transpires only like democracy when it produces a result they like …. give it a rest.

 

 

But they accept the result of the election .. unlike you cry babies on the right

[Fat is a type of crazy]

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

 

I just came across this web site which reinforces the idea that Trump wants to cut Medicaid.

And they have another really poignant article here entitled "Republicans Want You to Die". 

 

So these folks are not only telling you Trump will cut Medicaid, but that he flat out wants people to die. 

https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/republicans-want-you-to-die

 

I truly surrender. And this time I mean it. I am no longer posting in any more Trump threads.

There are an army of media people out there making all sorts of claims. 

Who knows what people are filling their minds with?

Believe whatever you want.

It's way too much work to debate with people.

 

Maybe Trump will cut Medicaid and does want you to die. What do I know? 

 

I officially SURRENDER. 

I'll believe it when I see it. But you don't have to get too excited - this is pretty clear cut - even avid Trump supporting Republicans are against this such as Josh Hawley due mainly to the cuts to Medicaid. 

[save the frogs]

11 hours ago, BLMFem said:

Aw, c'mon, like you can stay away from "Lewie London's" addictive threads!

I'll admit Lewie might be one of the "colorful" personalities in pattaya.

[save the frogs]

12 hours ago, StandardIssue said:

I could go on but one of the greatest intellectuals around, Noam Chomsky,

 

Noam Chomsky is maybe one of the greatest intellectual CON ARTISTS ever. I'll give him that.

This is an excerpt:

 

Wow, the vile masters of mankind's motto: All for ourselves and nothing for other people. 

 

Nothing. So you have nothing? Really? Absolutely nothing? You aren't typing on AN with a 1000$ Iphone / computer in your pocket? Most people have enough CRAP. Take a look at when people have garage sales. It's ridiculous how much crap people hoard throughout their lives, never using most of it. 

 

This video maybe has some facts in there, but mixed with nonsensical exaggerations and doom and gloom, complete with the eerie music in the background. 

 

 

 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

1 hour ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

But they accept the result of the election

 

Satire is always appreciated; many thanks

 

 

[StandardIssue]

8 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

Noam Chomsky is maybe one of the greatest intellectual CON ARTISTS ever. I'll give him that.

This is an excerpt:

 

Wow, the vile masters of mankind's motto: All for ourselves and nothing for other people. 

 

Nothing. So you have nothing? Really? Absolutely nothing? You aren't typing on AN with a 1000$ Iphone / computer in your pocket? Most people have enough CRAP. Take a look at when people have garage sales. It's ridiculous how much crap people hoard throughout their lives, never using most of it. 

 

This video maybe has some facts in there, but mixed with nonsensical exaggerations and doom and gloom, complete with the eerie music in the background. 

 

 

 

 

You're writing Hyperbole. Have you watched the entire documentary? Or did you just Google around to find some people who are bashing Chomsky and then post this meme pic?

 

How is Chomsky a con artist? Who is he trying to con and for what?

 

Do you know what a Maxim is? If you did you would see the preceding phrase in a much different light.