The Trump administration's plan to send Gazans to Libya is as stupid as it is evil

[bannork]

Donald Trump’s latest reported scheme to end the horror that’s unfolding in Gaza is to somehow dump one million of the enclave’s 2.5 million people in Libya in return for unfreezing $30 billion in frozen assets. 

It appears to be part of a White House campaign to normalise Israel’s campaign to use bombs, bullets, starvation, the mass destruction of homes, and the targeting of hospitals and medical professionals to make Gaza unliveable.

The United Nations and the International Criminal Court have said that what Israel’s Prime Minister and military are doing in Gaza is genocidal, a war crime, or crime against humanity. 

Voices: The Trump administration’s plan to send Gazans to Libya is as stupid as it is evil

[coolcarer]

8 hours ago, bannork said:

Donald Trump’s latest reported scheme to end the horror that’s unfolding in Gaza is to somehow dump one million of the enclave’s 2.5 million people in Libya in return for unfreezing $30 billion in frozen assets. 

It appears to be part of a White House campaign to normalise Israel’s campaign to use bombs, bullets, starvation, the mass destruction of homes, and the targeting of hospitals and medical professionals to make Gaza unliveable.

The United Nations and the International Criminal Court have said that what Israel’s Prime Minister and military are doing in Gaza is genocidal, a war crime, or crime against humanity. 

Voices: The Trump administration’s plan to send Gazans to Libya is as stupid as it is evil

Fake news, an opinion piece from the Independent based on an article from NBC news that has no named sources.

 

US embassy in Tripoli denies report of planned relocation of Palestinians to Libya

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-854357

 

why don’t you check your sources first?

[Hamus Yaigh]

17 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

Fake news

Who said it was news? This is the political soapbox forum where any amount of BS is game. Fact is the "Voices" section of The Independent is primarily dedicated to opinion pieces, editorials, and commentary rather than straight news reporting.

[coolcarer]

14 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

Who said it was news? This is the political soapbox forum where any amount of BS is game. Fact is the "Voices" section of The Independent is primarily dedicated to opinion pieces, editorials, and commentary rather than straight news reporting.

Quote my full post next time. The fake news source is clearly stated there and no any amount of bull<deleted> is not allowed.

[connda]

35 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

Fake news, an opinion piece from the Independent based on an article from NBC news that has no named sources.

 

US embassy in Tripoli denies report of planned relocation of Palestinians to Libya

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-854357

 

why don’t you check your sources first?

It is not "fake news."  It's a proposal which even Israeli news like Haaretz and The Times Of Istrael has picked up and commented on.  I have no doubt that the proposal is quite factual. Libya metaphorical said, "Pound sand." 

[coolcarer]

18 minutes ago, connda said:

It is not "fake news."  It's a proposal which even Israeli news like Haaretz and The Times Of Istrael has picked up and commented on.  I have no doubt that the proposal is quite factual. Libya metaphorical said, "Pound sand." 

Picking up on something does not mean it’s credible

 

“The report of alleged plans to relocate Gazans to Libya is untrue,” the US embassy said on the X platform.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/us-embassy-in-tripoli-denies-report-of-plans-to-relocate-gazans-to-libya/

1 hour ago, coolcarer said:

Fake news, an opinion piece from the Independent based on an article from NBC news that has no named sources.

 

US embassy in Tripoli denies report of planned relocation of Palestinians to Libya

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-854357

 

why don’t you check your sources first?

https://x.com/shalabi_rawad/status/1923888071247856044

 

[bannork]

Just because the embassy denies it, it doesn't mean the idea of moving Palestinians to Libya has not been discussed. 

Afterall, it's not the first time Trump has considered moving the whole of Gaza's population to an Arab or African country. 

Below is an extract from:

Palestinians could be ‘forced into three controlled zones in Gaza’ under Israeli plan, report claims

While Mr Trump issued a warning that “a lot of people are starving” in Gaza, without mentioning Israel’s blockade, the US president’s apparently sympathetic tone was tempered further as reports emerged suggesting his administration was considering a plan to permanently relocate as many as a million Gazans to Libya.

White House sources told NBC News that the idea had been discussed with Libya’s leadership and was being seriously considered. In exchange, Washington would release billions of dollars of funds to Libya that the US froze more than a decade ago.

 

[coolcarer]

16 minutes ago, bannork said:

Just because the embassy denies it, it doesn't mean the idea of moving Palestinians to Libya has not been discussed. 

Afterall, it's not the first time Trump has considered moving the whole of Gaza's population to an Arab or African country. 

Below is an extract from:

Palestinians could be ‘forced into three controlled zones in Gaza’ under Israeli plan, report claims

While Mr Trump issued a warning that “a lot of people are starving” in Gaza, without mentioning Israel’s blockade, the US president’s apparently sympathetic tone was tempered further as reports emerged suggesting his administration was considering a plan to permanently relocate as many as a million Gazans to Libya.

White House sources told NBC News that the idea had been discussed with Libya’s leadership and was being seriously considered. In exchange, Washington would release billions of dollars of funds to Libya that the US froze more than a decade ago.

 

You’re referring to the same opinion piece quoting the same unsourced rumors by NBC. Both Libya and the US have denied it. With sources. Your Clutching at straws through hate and can come up with nothing other than hearsay from unknown people from 1 article.

[bannork]

11 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

You’re referring to the same opinion piece quoting the same unsourced rumors by NBC. Both Libya and the US have denied it. With sources. Your Clutching at straws through hate and can come up with nothing other than hearsay from unknown people from 1 article.

Don't bother with the amateur psychology of posters. 

The fact is Trump has stated he would like to move the entire Gaza population abroad.

After failing to convince the Egyptian and Jordan leaders, he considered Morocco,  Somaliland and Puntland. All three countries have a strong need for US support, the latter two seeking international recognition.

Regarding Libya, the US has apparently offered to unfreeze billions of dollars in frozen Libyan funds. However, the country is still in turmoil. 

Just this last Thursday, Trump emphasized that the US should 'take' possession of Gaza and turn it into a " freedom zone" 

 

 

 

[coolcarer]

25 minutes ago, bannork said:

Don't bother with the amateur psychology of posters. 

The fact is Trump has stated he would like to move the entire Gaza population abroad.

After failing to convince the Egyptian and Jordan leaders, he considered Morocco,  Somaliland and Puntland. All three countries have a strong need for US support, the latter two seeking international recognition.

Regarding Libya, the US has apparently offered to unfreeze billions of dollars in frozen Libyan funds. However, the country is still in turmoil. 

Just this last Thursday, Trump emphasized that the US should 'take' possession of Gaza and turn it into a " freedom zone" 

 

 

 

We know about other plans from other reports. Trump was open about them and interviewed about them.

 

That’s not what you’ve been pushing though and you the have the audacity to question the amateur psychology of posters. Bizarre. Noted how easy it is for you to believe unfounded claims from an opinion piece that also calls the UK racist  and then resort to off topic flames about a posters psychology.

[swerve]

They should move somewhere.  Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria are maybe the most suitable places.  No one seems to want them.

[billd766]

Just now, swerve said:

They should move somewhere.  Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria are maybe the most suitable places.  No one seems to want them.

Why should the Palestinians HAVE to move from their own country?

 

Perhaps the Israeli's should learn to live within their own international borders, in their own country, that was carved out of Palestine back in 1948. Perhaps they should learn NOT yo invade other countries, to steal land and slaughter innocent men, women, children and babies. To stop bombing hospitals and schools, to stop blocking deliveries pf food, fuel and medicines, and learn to live like civilised human beings.

[save the frogs]

11 hours ago, billd766 said:

Why should the Palestinians HAVE to move from their own country?

 

Perhaps the Israeli's should learn to live within their own international borders, in their own country, that was carved out of Palestine back in 1948. Perhaps they should learn NOT yo invade other countries, to steal land and slaughter innocent men, women, children and babies. To stop bombing hospitals and schools, to stop blocking deliveries pf food, fuel and medicines, and learn to live like civilised human beings.

 

Who will force Israel to do that? You?  

There has been no better solution in decades. 

 

Also, many people are willingly and happily migrating in this day and age. Millions of human beings do not feel chained to their homeland and actually want to migrate. 

Their culture would be preserved in a foreign country. 

And their suffering would end.

 

This is evil compared to the status quo?

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

32 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Why should the Palestinians HAVE to move from their own country?

 

 

   Because they keep attacking Israel and the only way for a peaceful future is to remove them from the area

[MicroB]

6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Because they keep attacking Israel and the only way for a peaceful future is to remove them from the area

 

Already tried. Didn't work. What's Plan B, genius?

[Nick Carter icp]

13 minutes ago, MicroB said:

 

Already tried. Didn't work. What's Plan B, genius?

 

   It needs to be done properly , move them to where their rockets cannot reach Israel