Maga/Trump's big ugly bill set to kick 14 million Americans off their health care coverage

[metisdead]

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[TedG]

11 hours ago, gamb00ler said:

Are you really that dense?  Both those programs are NOT part of this budget.  Do you have any inkling why not?

 

These programs are a part of government spending.   And both of these program run deficits.  Which requires money from the general fund.   

 

 

https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-budget/where-do-our-federal-tax-dollars-go

 

 

 

 

 

[TedG]

12 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

This thread will likely be loaded with alot of deflection by faithful devotees who have no interest in discussing the actual issues. Defend, defend and defend. Never admit Trump is insane, unhinged, or wrong. 

You are a part of the problem.  

[TedG]

10 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

During the entire 20 years that Clinton, Obama and Biden were in office I was constantly criticizing their policy. Go back and look at some of my previous posts, I almost never see one of Trump's acolytes doing the same thing, almost never. 

 

It is as if total fealty is asked for, insisted upon, and adhered to. 

 

Right, people are going to eights years of posts to see if we’re critical of Obama, Clinton or Biden. 

[TedG]

8 hours ago, candide said:

What Republicans Don’t Want To Say: Blue States Are the Ones Bailing Out Red States

https://time.com/7222411/blue-states-are-bailing-out-red-states/

This is a tired false narrative. 

[Jingthing]

A deep dive into this cruel bill that takes from the poor (including food from hungry American children) to give to the richest.

So funny as so many of the maga cult members are the ones that are going to hurt from the effects of this mean and disgusting, very ugly bill. 

Americans used to say, we're better than that.

Under Trump, we're actually a lot worse.

 

 

[NickyLouie]

9 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

A deep dive into this cruel bill that takes from the poor (including food from hungr

 

 

 

The affordable healthcare act was broken, did you ever try to use it ? - I did 

 

 

A columnist from the Wash Post ?  that's rich ........

 

[Jingthing]

Just now, NickyLouie said:

 

The affordable healthcare act was broken, did you ever try to use it ? - I did 

 

 

A columnist from the Wash Post ?  that's rich ........

 

You didn't watch it. Very predictable with maga people to just snipe without any substance.

[Mike_Hunt]

14 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

A deep dive into this cruel bill that takes from the poor (including food from hungry American children) to give to the richest.

So funny as so many of the maga cult members are the ones that are going to hurt from the effects of this mean and disgusting, very ugly bill. 

Americans used to say, we're better than that.

Under Trump, we're actually a lot worse.

 

 

 

Your hyperventilation is comical at this point.

[Mike_Hunt]

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You didn't watch it. Very predictable with maga people to just snipe without any substance.

Pot meet kettle. 

[NickyLouie]

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You didn't watch it. Very predictable with maga people to just snipe without any substance.

 

 

How far would have that billion dollars that Kamala's handlers stole gone to help US Healthcare?

 

Affordable care act was an extension of welfare 

 

Graft is over, the whole system is being reworked  

 

 

 

 

[Mike_Hunt]

5 minutes ago, NickyLouie said:

 

The affordable healthcare act was broken, did you ever try to use it ? - I did 

 

 

A columnist from the Wash Post ?  that's rich ........

 

The ACA health plans are awful.

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, NickyLouie said:

 

 

How far would have that billion dollars that Kamala's handlers stole gone to help US Healthcare?

 

Affordable care act was an extension of welfare 

 

Graft is over, the whole system is being reworked  

 

 

 

 

No it isn't.

It's just being CUT with no replacement or even a concept of a replacement so please STOP LYING.

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, NickyLouie said:

 

 

How far would have that billion dollars that Kamala's handlers stole gone to help US Healthcare?

 

Affordable care act was an extension of welfare 

 

Graft is over, the whole system is being reworked  

 

 

 

 

That's very rich coming from a supporter of the most corrupt president in American history.

[Mike_Hunt]

Just now, Jingthing said:

No it isn't.

It's just being CUT with no replacement or even a concept of a replacement so please STOP LYING.

 

Try breathing into a paper bag. 

[Mike_Hunt]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

That's very rich coming from a supporter of the most corrupt president in American history.

Take a deep breath, you are hyperventilating again. 

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Take a deep breath, you are hyperventilating again. 

You're incapable of actually addressing issues.

This maga/Trump bill is completely INDEFENSIBLE. 

Unless you're a cruel sadist that enjoys starving poor children, that is. 

And maga Mike Johnson calls himself a devout Christian. 

The hypocrisy is stunning.

[NickyLouie]

6 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

That's very rich coming from a supporter of the most corrupt president in American history.

 

Example of this corruption ?

 

Actual proven hard example  ........

[Mike_Hunt]

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You're incapable of actually addressing issues.

This maga/Trump bill is completely INDEFENSIBLE. 

Unless you're a cruel sadist that enjoys starving poor children, that is. 

And maga Mike Johnson calls himself a devout Christian. 

The hypocrisy is stunning.

 

The phrase "think of the children" is often used as a rhetorical tactic in debates to evoke emotional responses rather than logical discussion.

 

 

[Mike_Hunt]

6 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

 

And maga Mike Johnson calls himself a devout Christian. 

 

 

Is it Christian to use the tip of the spear to take my money? 

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

The phrase "think of the children" is often used as a rhetorical tactic in debates to evoke emotional responses rather than logical discussion.

 

 

Sure but the fact is that your dear leader actually IS depriving food for hungry children with his big ugly bill and emotional or not, that is FACT, and you can't hide from it.  Why? To transfer that money to billionaires. There is NO MORALITY in the maga movement. None at all. 

[Mike_Hunt]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Sure but the fact is that your dear leader actually IS depriving food for hungry children with his big ugly bill and emotional or not, that is FACT, and you can't hide from it.  Why? To transfer that money to billionaires. There is NO MORALITY in the maga movement. None at all. 

1) It's not a fact.

2) How is this  being transfer to billionaires.  Explain the process. 

[Jingthing]

Just now, Mike_Hunt said:

1) It's not a fact.

2) How is this  being transfer to billionaires.  Explain the process. 

It's explained in the video which you refuse to watch.
Waste of time talking to someone as DISINGENUOUS as you.

[Mike_Hunt]

Just now, Jingthing said:

It's explained in the video which you refuse to watch.
Waste of time talking to someone as DISINGENUOUS as you.

 

You never answer direct questions.  All you do is deflect. 

[candide]

49 minutes ago, TedG said:

This is a tired false narrative. 

What is your evidence? 

[howlee101]

14 hours ago, dinsdale said:

The full link which you failed for some reason not to attach is this.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-s-tax-bill-would-decimate-the-affordable-care-act/ar-AA1FlSYb?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=91816008cc9a4cba9b935f5d88b4554e&ei=35

MSN. 

As for the 14 million how many are not entitled to receive benefits?

Now don't start inserting facts into their edited version of the truth 🤣

[howlee101]

15 hours ago, Jingthing said:

It's good John McCain didn't live to see this.

He saved the ACA.

Trump's maga movement is now gutting it.

 

The big ugly CRUEL bill not only massively guts Medicaid.

It will also automatically trigger 4 percent annual budget reductions to Medicare.

It kills subsidies for the ACA, which in effect, kills the point of the program.

 

I don't know how many of those 14 million people being set up to be royally screwed by Maga/Trump are in his cult or voted for this regime, but needless to say, a huge portion.

 

The Trump regime 2.0 is turning the U.S. into a dystopian hellscape and we're still in the early days of it.

 

Trump's Tax Bill Would Decimate the Affordable Care Act

Blah blah blah.  Yet another anti-Trump post from the usual suspect 😉

[TedG]

6 minutes ago, candide said:

What is your evidence? 

How does increasing the standard deducatoin to $16,000 for single people and $32,000 to married people benefit billionaire?  

 

How does adding $4000  the standard deduction to seniors benefit billionaires.  

 

Does raising the SALT deduction to $40,000 to appease the North East blue a massive benefit to billionaires?  

 

Is keeping the 2025 brackets a huge boom for billionaires?

 

The term billionaire is measure of wealth, not income.   

 

The use of "tax cuts for billionaires" nothing but a trope by the dems to inflame the low information masses. 

[candide]

9 hours ago, candide said:

What Republicans Don’t Want To Say: Blue States Are the Ones Bailing Out Red States

https://time.com/7222411/blue-states-are-bailing-out-red-states/

 

3 minutes ago, TedG said:

How does increasing the standard deducatoin to $16,000 for single people and $32,000 to married people benefit billionaire?  

 

How does adding $4000  the standard deduction to seniors benefit billionaires.  

 

Does raising the SALT deduction to $40,000 to appease the North East blue a massive benefit to billionaires?  

 

Is keeping the 2025 brackets a huge boom for billionaires?

 

The term billionaire is measure of wealth, not income.   

 

The use of "tax cuts for billionaires" nothing but a trope by the dems to inflame the low information masses. 

How is your reply relevant to what I posted (see above)?

[TedG]

Just now, candide said:

 

How is your reply relevant to what I posted (see above)?

Sorry wrong topic.

 

The blue states are not bailing out the red state.  End of story.   It's another false narrative for the low information leftie.   

 

1) States don't pay taxes.   indiivduals do. 

2) Most states get about 32% of their budget from the federal government.  

3) The US is running a 1.8 trillion dollar deficit which means the blue states are not paying their fair share.