Non-O Marriage E-Visa & Re-Entry

[TravelingWell]

I have a Non-O Marriage visa (90 days plus 60-day extension) and am leaving for Vietnam right before my Non-O expires. I’ll be in Vietnam for 27 days before returning with a new Non-O marriage visa. Does immigration ever have issues Non-O Spouse/Child visa holders about repeat leaving to apply for a new visa and re-enter, as is the case with people doing visa exemptions and tourist visa runs? 

[DrJack54]

17 minutes ago, TravelingWell said:

I have a Non-O Marriage visa (90 days plus 60-day extension) and am leaving for Vietnam right before my Non-O expires. I’ll be in Vietnam for 27 days before returning with a new Non-O marriage visa.

If I'm reading this correctly you entered Thailand on a Non O marriage. 

Given a 90 day permission of stay stamp. 

Obtained a 60 day extension?

Must have been extension "to visit wife" 

Then plan to have mini holiday in Vietnam and obtain another Non O. 

Basically wash and repeat. 

Shouldn't be an issue however just one person's opinion I believe it should be an issue. 

What's the issue with obtaining a 12 month extension. 

The financials are minimal. 

[TravelingWell]

“What's the issue with obtaining a 12 month extension.”

No issue. I had planned leave the country for this trip long before getting the visa. I could get the one year extension next time if I preferred. I initially intended to travel back to the US, so I didn’t get a one-year extension.

[DrJack54]

However you opted for 90 + 60 + a new Non O presumably for another 90 .... 

What's your question? Will immigration have issue when you fly back to Thailand from Vietnam with a new Non O..... ? 

[TravelingWell]

8 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

“Will immigration have issue when you fly back to Thailand from Vietnam with a new Non O..... ? “

Yes. I was curious if they prefer you do a one-year extension.

 

[DrJack54]

1 hour ago, TravelingWell said:

Yes. I was curious if they prefer you do a one-year extension.

As I posted. No reason why you could not obtain successive  single entry Non O visas. 

Seems like an attempt to cover the removal of the multi entry Non O visa that was previously available. 

 

For extensions the 400k is fairly minor issue as the funds can be used after extension granted. 

Any trips out of Thailand would require a reentry permit.. 

[Rob Browder]

13 hours ago, TravelingWell said:

I have a Non-O Marriage visa (90 days plus 60-day extension) and am leaving for Vietnam right before my Non-O expires. I’ll be in Vietnam for 27 days before returning with a new Non-O marriage visa. Does immigration ever have issues Non-O Spouse/Child visa holders about repeat leaving to apply for a new visa and re-enter, as is the case with people doing visa exemptions and tourist visa runs? 

I have not seen any reports of folks being hassled entering on Non-O Visas  only "tourist" type entries.  I would carry a copy of your marriage-certificate and wife's ID + Housebook in carry-on luggage to show them, if they have an issue.

[Gottfrid]

As repeated already above, there should not really be an issue, if you have not done this multiple times before. On the other hand, it still depends very much on who, and what mood, the immigration officer is. I would take @Rob Browder advise and take copies of everything to be on the safe side.

After that, please get a 1 year extension and use multi-entry permits if travelling in and out. The amount should not be any problem for a person who entered and committed to a marriage in Thailand. As you already assured it´s not an issue, that will be your best option.

[Rob Browder]

2 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

The amount should not be any problem for a person who entered and committed to a marriage in Thailand.

Folks' circumstances change, sometimes due to factors they do not control, and often due to money spent due to that "commitment" - even more so, when supporting children is part of the mix. 

Once over-50, the financials drop to 12.5K to 15K per-year via immigration's agents, which is significantly less-expensive than visa-runs.  Undoubtedly, this helps keep many "committed" Thai/Foreign families together.

[Gottfrid]

22 minutes ago, Rob Browder said:

Folks' circumstances change, sometimes due to factors they do not control, and often due to money spent due to that "commitment" - even more so, when supporting children is part of the mix. 

Once over-50, the financials drop to 12.5K to 15K per-year via immigration's agents, which is significantly less-expensive than visa-runs.  Undoubtedly, this helps keep many "committed" Thai/Foreign families together.

Sure it helps, but in the wrong way. If you are not financially stable, have control over and plan your economy, you have no place going to another country taking on a responsibility of both marriage and children. I hope you are old and intelligent enough to understand that equation. Just don´t tell me that living in Thailand, with a Thai wife and children and not having 400k baht to your name is ok. It´s an irresponsible act with a risk of messing up the life of people that you should love and care about, as well as messing up your own life.

[Rob Browder]

39 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Sure it helps, but in the wrong way. If you are not financially stable, have control over and plan your economy, you have no place going to another country taking on a responsibility of both marriage and children. I hope you are old and intelligent enough to understand that equation. Just don´t tell me that living in Thailand, with a Thai wife and children and not having 400k baht to your name is ok. It´s an irresponsible act with a risk of messing up the life of people that you should love and care about, as well as messing up your own life.

You seem to think people's financial-status is static, such that one should abandon their Thai wife/kids if they have to use their savings to help them.  I am fortunate, in that my finances have only improved since I came to Thailand, but I know of others who had to deal with family-emergencies.

 

"Going home to make money to send back" doesn't work any more, generally, given a higher-cost-of-living country where millions of poor were invited-in to flood our labor market, at multiple skilll-levels.  That said, if one doesn't have skills they can sell via Internet access, they may be stuck in their passport-country.

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, Gottfrid said:

Sure it helps, but in the wrong way. If you are not financially stable, have control over and plan your economy, you have no place going to another country taking on a responsibility of both marriage and children. I hope you are old and intelligent enough to understand that equation. Just don´t tell me that living in Thailand, with a Thai wife and children and not having 400k baht to your name is ok. It´s an irresponsible act with a risk of messing up the life of people that you should love and care about, as well as messing up your own life.

Disagree, the poor have children all the time.

All out home countries are importing loads of them, 'cos they work cheap and breed fast!

[Tod Daniels]

Many MANY people over the years used to "live here" on single entry Non-O 90 day stamps, a 60 day visit thai family extension and then go get a new 90 day Non-O after that 5 months ran out. Especially the ones who had thai children without being married to the mother (so no legal parental rights)

Those people would do that Non-O 90 days + 60 day visit family thing over and over without any issue getting back in 

It is doubtful you will have any issues stamping in
but
if you do, just tell them you didn't get the funds seasoned in time. You're far from the first foreigner to have had that happen and have to start over with the whole process  🙂 

[TravelingWell]

FWIW - normally I spend about six months in the US working. I was supposed to go back to the United States for several weeks for a business project that ended up delayed and then canceled and rescheduled several months…oh well…stuff happens

[Gottfrid]

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Disagree, the poor have children all the time.

All out home countries are importing loads of them, 'cos they work cheap and breed fast!

I don´t think you understood what I posted. Are you trying to compare fleeing immigrants from poor and war thorn countries with a persons desire to move and build a life in another country? That is not related to my post. Are you trying to say that people in the country you move to are poor and take on to much responsibilities without funding for them? That was is not related to my post. I was talking about people who move to a country out of their free will to start a better life or a retirement in the new country. meaning that you must have funding for what you do and a secure plan for the rest of your life.

 

2 hours ago, Tod Daniels said:

Many MANY people over the years used to "live here" on single entry Non-O 90 day stamps, a 60 day visit thai family extension and then go get a new 90 day Non-O after that 5 months ran out. Especially the ones who had thai children without being married to the mother (so no legal parental rights)

Sure, you are right, that many did. However, there not any issue for unmarried people with kids to get a Non-O as far as I know. Having a child in Thailand has also been a valid reason for getting a Non-O based on just that to be able to stay.

[BritManToo]

Just now, Gottfrid said:

I don´t think you understood what I posted. Are you trying to compare fleeing immigrants from poor and war thorn countries with a persons desire to move and build a life in another country? That is not related to my post. Are you trying to say that people in the country you move to are poor and take on to much responsibilities without funding for them? That was is not related to my post. I was talking about people who move to a country out of their free will to start a better life or a retirement in the new country. meaning that you must have funding for what you do and a secure plan for the rest of your life.

I don't really know what you're saying, I'm not a psychiatrist.

[Gottfrid]

4 hours ago, Rob Browder said:

You seem to think people's financial-status is static, such that one should abandon their Thai wife/kids if they have to use their savings to help them.  I am fortunate, in that my finances have only improved since I came to Thailand, but I know of others who had to deal with family-emergencies.

 

"Going home to make money to send back" doesn't work any more, generally, given a higher-cost-of-living country where millions of poor were invited-in to flood our labor market, at multiple skilll-levels.  That said, if one doesn't have skills they can sell via Internet access, they may be stuck in their passport-country.

No, I don´t think it´s static, as it can vary depending on what happens in life. However, if you move to a foreign country and take on responsibilities as family with wife and kids your financial status must be secure enough, disregarding what happens. IMO there are no excuses in the world to not live up to the responsibilities you take on.

[Gottfrid]

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I don't really know what you're saying, I'm not a psychiatrist.

No need to bring psychiatry into a simple post. However, if you don´t understand, why you chose to quote from start?

[DrJack54]

The OP question is specific. 

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