California in Uproar as Newsom Condemns Trump’s Troop Deployment as ‘Deranged Fantasy’

[jts-khorat]

 Indeed I find it very telling, that the Americans as a whole are now that uneducated, that they are seemingly not even able to implement fascism proper.

 

It is all just words, and chaos, with partisan camps jeering for the burning down of the other.

 

For those who were too stupid to get the idea themselves: instead of slogans, a proper civil war would be surely really, really, really helpful to put some strength behind your arguments.

 

"Discuss". 😆

[jimmybcool]

5 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

I do not believe that the Marines , with the exception of NCOs or officers would have lethal ammunition. They are  reportedly being used to guard the ICE detention center. Those centers are being guarded by LASD, and federal law enforcement, not LAPD, so it won't really help the LAPD deal with the city center, which has already been pacified with the curfew and the rapid intervention units. My point is that combat soldiers are not trained for  civilian policing. It is a different methodology and mindset to combat. The soldiers are not being used for civilian relief, but suppression activity, and that is not what they are trained  for, nor what they enlisted to do.  The civilian authorities are capable of managing the situation.This is what a police force is supposed to do. 

 

Good we agree.  Marines are trained to break, destroy, kill.  Not police.  I am not in favor of calling them in personally.  And I doubt they will be issued ammo.  We learned about that in Kent State,  

 

 

[Celsius]

[jts-khorat]

18 minutes ago, Celsius said:

 

You really are juxtaposing jaded male trust fund babies picking up easy women on the beach with a hard-working family man passionate in his cultural roots?

 

I would say the lower picture shows a reprehensible degradation of morals, which led directly to the unfortunate situation the USA is in right now. 😁

[jas007]

1 hour ago, jts-khorat said:

You really are juxtaposing jaded male trust fund babies picking up easy women on the beach with a hard-working family man passionate in his cultural roots?

You obviously never lived at the beach in California back then, if you think all the males hanging around surfing every day were "trust fund babies."   Maybe a few of them were, but that's true just about everywhere you look.  

 

As for the "hard working family man"?  Those people make their choice to get married and havre a family.  If that meant they had to work hared every day, whose fault was that?  In any event, even those people could afford to live just about anywhere in California back then.  The only problem I ever heard of was that some may have had a hard time finding a place to rent, because some apartment complexes and landlords didn't want to rent to people with kids. 

[Celsius]

2 hours ago, jts-khorat said:

 

You really are juxtaposing jaded male trust fund babies picking up easy women on the beach with a hard-working family man passionate in his cultural roots?

 

I would say the lower picture shows a reprehensible degradation of morals, which led directly to the unfortunate situation the USA is in right now. 😁

 

Are you in Thailand having sex with prostitutes? If not maybe you have a point.

 

Or not because those flat waving Arabs were in line before your sloppy seconds.

[Mike_Hunt]

2 hours ago, jts-khorat said:

 

You really are juxtaposing jaded male trust fund babies picking up easy women on the beach with a hard-working family man passionate in his cultural roots?

 

I would say the lower picture shows a reprehensible degradation of morals, which led directly to the unfortunate situation the USA is in right now. 😁

CA was a very different place in 1965.  

[Tug]

24 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

CA was a very different place in 1965.  

Still is just no slackers ya gots to work!as long as the fascist party stays out everything can be handled just fine locally I enjoy my neighbors my neighborhood I revel in the diversity and different cultures my property is a gold mine we have wonderful weather low crime allways something to do.This incident is being blown all out of proportion.the trump is trying to use it for political gain don’t be bamboozled 

[Mike_Hunt]

4 minutes ago, Tug said:

Still is just no slackers ya gots to work!as long as the fascist party stays out everything can be handled just fine locally I enjoy my neighbors my neighborhood I revel in the diversity and different cultures my property is a gold mine we have wonderful weather low crime allways something to do.This incident is being blown all out of proportion.the trump is trying to use it for political gain don’t be bamboozled 

CA is under control of the fascist party.  

[StandardIssue]

8 hours ago, ericthai said:

Oh,, it's only a couple of streets... well that's ok, since we dont live or have a business there so it's no big deal.... please continue with the "peaceful" protests.  

You've missed the point completely. 

 

What makes you think this topic is about local business owners needing Trump to send in military troops and national guard to protect them when CA is well equipped with all kinds of police force and LE agencies to take care of such problems?

 

CA did not ask for Trumps help, CA doesn't need Trumps help with this. Gavin Newsom sees that it is obviously Trump trying to push him around and using the protests as an excuse to do it, possibly make him look bad for political reasons.

 

Are you reading these posts?

[StandardIssue]

18 hours ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

Keep talking 

 

 

 

 

You and your Facebook Meme's again. Worthless trash.

 

Don;t you realize you are being dupped by Facebook, Youtube and all the right-wing wanna be influencers.

 

This BS meme and all the rest of your daft Youtube links and Facebook memes hold NO WEIGHT with anyone who has half a brain.

By the way Fox News is a propaganda mill also so don't bother trying to make your point with any clips from them.

 

Respectfully sir, Just lay out of the conversation if you have no opinion of your own on these matters.

 

Your King Trump is so afraid of any protesters against him he's gotta make damn near  illegal deployment of Military force into a situation which is easily handled by local law enforcement.

 

Anyway, I won't bother saying anymore because it's obvious rational thought is not your cup of tea.

[StandardIssue]

On 6/10/2025 at 4:51 PM, morrobay said:

The only solution now with this anarchy and looting is martial law with lethal force. End of Story 

Don't you realize Fox news is all about trying to keep you afraid and MAGNIFY and misrepresent actual reality? These people DO NOT report the news, they damn near generate it to the extent that they are NOT reporting real happenings. They distort reality into the right-wing BS agenda.

 

Do you have any personal opinion on the matter?

[EVENKEEL]

If one good thing comes out of this mess is that Newsom is showing us he isn't presidential  material come the 2028 election. He's worthless.

[Yagoda]

39 minutes ago, Tug said:

Still is just no slackers ya gots to work!as long as the fascist party stays out everything can be handled just fine locally I enjoy my neighbors my neighborhood I revel in the diversity and different cultures my property is a gold mine we have wonderful weather low crime allways something to do.This incident is being blown all out of proportion.the trump is trying to use it for political gain don’t be bamboozled 

You hate the United States.

[Yagoda]

6 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

If one good thing comes out of this mess is that Newsom is showing us he isn't presidential  material come the 2028 election. He's worthless.

The other good thing will be the indictments. Expect a large number. Expect some organizations to go down.  Plus the midterms.

[Tug]

8 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

If one good thing comes out of this mess is that Newsom is showing us he isn't presidential  material come the 2028 election. He's worthless.

Oh I dono he spoke the truth most folks don’t think like you.

2 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

You hate the United States.

Quite the contrary yagoda I love my country and our form of government that btw trump is trying to destroy.

[Yagoda]

26 minutes ago, Tug said:

Oh I dono he spoke the truth most folks don’t think like you.

Check the polls.

 

27 minutes ago, Tug said:

Quite the contrary yagoda I love my country and our form of government that btw trump is trying to destroy.

You posts say otherwise.

[jimmybcool]

1 hour ago, Tug said:

Still is just no slackers ya gots to work!as long as the fascist party stays out everything can be handled just fine locally I enjoy my neighbors my neighborhood I revel in the diversity and different cultures my property is a gold mine we have wonderful weather low crime allways something to do.This incident is being blown all out of proportion.the trump is trying to use it for political gain don’t be bamboozled 

 

At the end of Biden's term many "sanctuary cities/states" were complaining they were overwhelmed by the sheer masses of immigrants and the costs associated with that.  This includes CA whose Medi-Cal system is breaking under the strain.  Unsustainable is how DEM politicians are describing it.  So what is the answer if it isn't to deport the illegals that are a major part of the strain?

 

https://calmatters.org/health/2025/03/medi-cal-shortfall-worsens/#:~:text=The hole in California’s Medi-Cal budget seems to,providers through the end of the fiscal year.

[Tug]

20 minutes ago, jimmybcool said:

 

At the end of Biden's term many "sanctuary cities/states" were complaining they were overwhelmed by the sheer masses of immigrants and the costs associated with that.  This includes CA whose Medi-Cal system is breaking under the strain.  Unsustainable is how DEM politicians are describing it.  So what is the answer if it isn't to deport the illegals that are a major part of the strain?

 

https://calmatters.org/health/2025/03/medi-cal-shortfall-worsens/#:~:text=The hole in California’s Medi-Cal budget seems to,providers through the end of the fiscal year.

Part of it is the terror tactics trump is employing ie unmarked cars/vans guys in combat gear no ID and face masks.part of it is the lie he going after gangbangers and dope dealers.day laborers and nanny’s would be more accurate.its a farce designed for theatrics and endless skued coverage on fake news fox.

[Tug]

32 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Check the polls.

 

You posts say otherwise.

You are mistaken on both counts if you said I was strongly anti trump you would be accurate stop trying to conflate that into some deranged idea that I hate my country..quite the opposite.

[StandardIssue]

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

The other good thing will be the indictments. Expect a large number. Expect some organizations to go down.  Plus the midterms.

Be sure and follow up your predictions. What indictments do you expect? What organizations are you talking about will "go down"

[Mike_Hunt]

1 hour ago, StandardIssue said:

Don't you realize Fox news is all about trying to keep you afraid and MAGNIFY and misrepresent actual reality? These people DO NOT report the news, they damn near generate it to the extent that they are NOT reporting real happenings. They distort reality into the right-wing BS agenda.

 

Do you have any personal opinion on the matter?

Do you lefties ever get tired of trying to gaslight people?  

[StandardIssue]

9 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Do you lefties ever get tired of trying to gaslight people?  

 

Oh man, I feel sorry for you. Fox News is so obviously right-wing propaganda, hypberbolic and mind numbingly biased it boggles the mind that  many can't see it.

You are the "key demographic". People who feed off the endless "got to fight those lefties" BS along with blaming Immigrants, Scientists, Scholars and intellectuals for "destroying America", blaming others for what you *think* is wrong with the USA and what is not giving you what you think you need.

It's ferkin sad.

Dr. Gerbles back in good ole 1930's Germany tried this play book, along with most Tyrants in the world. I won't bother explaining as folks like you exist on the Fox News, Facebook meme right-wing culture. Really sad.

 

[Mike_Hunt]

3 minutes ago, StandardIssue said:

 

Oh man, I feel sorry for you. Fox News is so obviously right-wing propaganda, hypberbolic and mind numbingly biased it boggles the mind that  many can't see it.

You are the "key demographic". People who feed off the endless "got to fight those lefties" BS along with blaming Immigrants, Scientists, Scholars and intellectuals for "destroying America", blaming others for what you *think* is wrong with the USA and what is not giving you what you think you need.

It's ferkin sad.

I feel sorry for you since you spend your days watching MSNBC. 

[jimmybcool]

14 minutes ago, Tug said:

Part of it is the terror tactics trump is employing ie unmarked cars/vans guys in combat gear no ID and face masks.part of it is the lie he going after gangbangers and dope dealers.day laborers and nanny’s would be more accurate.its a farce designed for theatrics and endless skued coverage on fake news fox.

On what planet does what you replied have anything to do with my post?  There is an issue with the quantity of illegal immigrants and their drain on public services and even left wing DEM politicians have complained about it asking that something be done.  So what should we be doing?   Try to stay on subject.

 

 

[LosLobo]

14 hours ago, jimmybcool said:

Do you actually think they will be issued live ammo?  Come on.  Get a grip.  I've no idea what MARINES are there.  National Guard should be adequate.  I've been in communication with a police officer in the LA area who welcomes the Guard as they handle a lot of tasks they haven't the man power for.  Most of the actual confrontation is police trained to interact with the public.  Marines will probably also be background manpower.

 

These fevered dreams that it is a fascist armed force trampling innocent civilians peacefully protesting is a fantasy.  

Seems like someone’s got a grip of something……and it’s not reality.
 

Both Marines and Guard are issued live ammo. Marines (Title 10) secure federal sites; Guard (Title 32) assists police. That’s standard DoD protocol.
 

So, are you really claiming that this fascist felon leader doesn’t fantasize about his forces trampling innocent, peaceful protesters?

 

[StandardIssue]

3 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

I feel sorry for you since you spend your days watching MSNBC. 

 

Oh man, you really put me in my place with that one.

You must hold the record for hunt and peck two finger typing

 

FYI, I *read* the news most days as video news is way too slow for me.

[EVENKEEL]

1 hour ago, Tug said:

Oh I dono he spoke the truth most folks don’t think like you.

Quite the contrary yagoda I love my country and our form of government that btw trump is trying to destroy.

What truth. ICE was sent to uphold the federal law. What did Newsom do to assist? If you love out form of gov. then why were you not angry about the southern border.

[Mike_Hunt]

4 minutes ago, StandardIssue said:

 

Oh man, you really put me in my place with that one.

You must hold the record for hunt and peck two finger typing

 

FYI, I *read* the news most days as video news is way too slow for me.

You are sit on the couch watching CNN and MSNBC while coloring in your coloring books.

[Mike_Hunt]

3 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

What truth. ICE was sent to uphold the federal law. What did Newsom do to assist? If you love out form of gov. then why were you not angry about the southern border.

The lefties are all about the rule of law until they are not.