Will there ever be a safe vaccine?

[Photoguy21]

100% safe? No there never will be. However, unlike the Covid vaccines they can be properly tested before pushing them onto the public.

[SAFETY FIRST]

1 hour ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

          Lots of safe vaccines. Stupid question. 

          ...

          Now go away and annoy someone else. 

Thanks for your interesting facts and evidence based take on the issue.  It finally convinced me that SAFETY FIRST is the main concern in vaccine matters.

I wasn't talking to you, this comment was for another person.

 

Why are you reacting? 

 

[rattlesnake]

10 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I survived COVID x2 as an adult (cos they threatened me about travel again)

 

And to my knowledge, unless you were going to the US or Indonesia, it was a rumoured threat as the authorities never stopped anyone unvaccinated from travelling. I travelled to Europe in 2021 (flight from Bangkok to Geneva via Amsterdam and into France by land) and all that was needed was a negative PCR test, shown only once at the check-in counter in Suvarnabhumi.

 

That was a valuable lesson for people too, I think: don't believe rumours and always check information independently. Several people on this forum were adamant that vaccination would be needed to renew visas, though the Thai authorities never even suggested that might be the case.

[rumak]

First.... some of my posts are not strictly covid related,  but i post here thinking it might interest some of the core who visit .   Maybe RedP  could start a thread (just an idea) with regards to  "Strange medical practices of the Third Kind"  .

C&C has another great post today... health related... check it out .  

here is my comment on said article :

 

Absolutely fantastic to see C&C focusing on the big, big ,big issue of health !  I wonder how many people feel like i do...... my biggest fear is being brought to a pharma prison ,  laughingly called a "care giving facility" .... or hospital, for short.

Jeff's article today spells it out so well :  the uncaring, drug peddling, mandated protocols , and outrageous pricing that has all but captured the helpless people who need some help.    I can not say all this without also putting some blame on the blind followers who worship doctors and deny that anyone else without some paper on the wall can know a better way .  Trying to pry those double fake cheese burger 4 pounders and 40 ounce cokes away from the masses ( and i mean Massive Masses) .... will take a herculean effort.

But ....... we gotta start somewhere.   A very smart entrepeneur can , i predict, make a fortune by establishing an A.I  Chat ND system that will focus on natural solutions to the myriad of diseases and smaller ailments that are now a plague .  I spend hours going over the Earth Clinic website , having learned a lot and cured many issues ( ACV and BS for stomach problems for example.  Drs all wanted me to take 
PPI's...... terrible stuff and the opposite of what can help FIX  the problem) .

Lots more personal anecdotes.... but you get my point.  And btw, Jeff ,  next time some sinus issue starts ... put a few drops of 3% peroxide into your ears . This will prevent infection.  Chat ND !    If i had about 30 million I'd start it myself .  haha

Jeff's focusing on the health issue is REALLY helpful .   Keep going !

[rattlesnake]

1 hour ago, rumak said:

First.... some of my posts are not strictly covid related,  but i post here thinking it might interest some of the core who visit .   Maybe RedP  could start a thread (just an idea) with regards to  "Strange medical practices of the Third Kind"  .

C&C has another great post today... health related... check it out .  

here is my comment on said article :

 

Absolutely fantastic to see C&C focusing on the big, big ,big issue of health !  I wonder how many people feel like i do...... my biggest fear is being brought to a pharma prison ,  laughingly called a "care giving facility" .... or hospital, for short.

Jeff's article today spells it out so well :  the uncaring, drug peddling, mandated protocols , and outrageous pricing that has all but captured the helpless people who need some help.    I can not say all this without also putting some blame on the blind followers who worship doctors and deny that anyone else without some paper on the wall can know a better way .  Trying to pry those double fake cheese burger 4 pounders and 40 ounce cokes away from the masses ( and i mean Massive Masses) .... will take a herculean effort.

But ....... we gotta start somewhere.   A very smart entrepeneur can , i predict, make a fortune by establishing an A.I  Chat ND system that will focus on natural solutions to the myriad of diseases and smaller ailments that are now a plague .  I spend hours going over the Earth Clinic website , having learned a lot and cured many issues ( ACV and BS for stomach problems for example.  Drs all wanted me to take 
PPI's...... terrible stuff and the opposite of what can help FIX  the problem) .

Lots more personal anecdotes.... but you get my point.  And btw, Jeff ,  next time some sinus issue starts ... put a few drops of 3% peroxide into your ears . This will prevent infection.  Chat ND !    If i had about 30 million I'd start it myself .  haha

Jeff's focusing on the health issue is REALLY helpful .   Keep going !

 

I like Jeff Childers, never read an article of his which wasn't good.

 

This part is compatible with my previously-mentioned take on tech, i.e. it's a tool and what matters is who wields it:

 

But ChatGPT pulls up studies your doctor hasn’t read. It explains side effects in full sentences instead of hastily scribbled warnings. It doesn’t interrupt, rush, or dismiss. It doesn’t condescend. It politely answers every question, no matter how many you ask or how dumb they are.

The real threat to medicine isn’t that AI makes mistakes. (So do doctors. A lot.) The threat is that AI demystifies the process — and proves it was never magic to begin with. It’s just pattern recognition, obscure vocabulary, hoarded data, and access to knowledge.

 

We are going through a paradigm change for the best. That's just the reality as I see it.

[Red Phoenix]

8 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

I like Jeff Childers, never read an article of his which wasn't good.

 

I fully agree with @rumak and @rattlesnake that the free Newsletter issued daily by Jeff Childers is very highly recommended. 

His Newsletter 'Coffee and Covid' is one of the first mails I read every morning with Jeff's take on 4-5 hot current issues. 

Need I say that I am far better informed from reading that free Newsletter than reading or listening/watching the mainstream media?  And not only that, but Jeff often has a scoop on events that MSM are trying to gaslight you on, and he is as good as always first before any of these worthless media are even reporting on it. 

> Here the link to subscribe to the Free daily Newsletter, so that you get it daily in your email-box. 

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/

 

Note that you can also read his Newsletters on his substack (same link > https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/ } where you can access the archive of all his postings.  But it is only when he posted a new Newsletter, that the previous one becomes accessible on his substack.  So it's well worth subscribing to that Newsletter.

[rumak]

10 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

This part is compatible with my previously-mentioned take on tech, i.e. it's a tool and what matters is who wields it:

 

That's what scares me !   Kinda like :  bombs don't kill , people do . 

 

But.......... it's the weekend and my alter ego  needs a rest . 😇   So, no devil's advocate posts coming .   Wishing all you nutters a great weekend !🥰  

[rumak]

feel like i'm on acid ....... running on electromagnetic flows.    go with the flow !

 

TriTorch

Out Here On the Perimeter

1h

They taught you the heart was just a glorified meat pump. That it squeezes and pushes blood like some crude mechanical device. A hydraulic engine made of flesh. That is what they want you to believe. Because if you buy into that primitive lie, you never ask deeper questions.

But it is false. It has always been false. And the real science proves it.

Dr Francisco Torrent-Guasp, a Spanish cardiac researcher, discovered what the textbooks refuse to acknowledge, that the heart is not a pump. He dissected thousands of hearts and found that the heart is a single continuous muscle band, folded into a spiral. He proved the heart works like a vortex generator, creating suction and torque, not pressure.

He called it the Helical Ventricular Myocardial Band and it changes everything.

The real movement of blood comes from pressure differentials, electromagnetic flow, and coherent resonance. The blood spirals naturally. It does not need to be forced through miles of arteries and capillaries. That idea is beyond stupid. The so-called pump is not strong enough to push thick fluid through 60,000 miles of tubing. That is basic physics. That lie was dead on arrival.

Here is the truth. Blood moves before the heart forms in the embryo. It flows via frequency, resonance, and electric charge. The body is a field, not a factory.

Your heart creates a toroidal electromagnetic field that radiates six metres from the body. This field syncs with the Earth, the Sun, and every living being around you. It is a resonator. A tuner. A conductor. It aligns the rhythm of your cells. It feels. It remembers. It emits. And it responds to emotion, thought, light, sound, and breath.

When you feel love, grief, fear, or peace, your heart transmits it. It is the central frequency modulator of your biology. Not a crude pump.

And the institutions know this. The HeartMath Institute has measured these fields for decades. They know the heart has more neuronal cells than parts of the brain. They know it is a second brain. They know coherence in the heart transforms the entire nervous system.

So why are they still teaching children a 400-year-old guess from William Harvey that has never been updated?

Because if you knew the truth, you would never accept statins or beta blockers again. You would understand that trauma, emotion, and disconnection break the heart field, not cholesterol. You would stop obeying the medical cartel and start tuning your body like the intelligent frequency field it is.

They do not want coherent humans. They want disrupted, inflamed, fragmented people who rely on drugs to survive. That is the business model. And the fake heart pump lie is central to it.

Your heart is not a pressure valve. It is a vortex. A field tuner. A resonating gateway between physical and energetic worlds.

It is the instrument of your soul.

And it has been hijacked by science that refuses to evolve. —Jamie Freeman

[Stiddle Mump]

28 minutes ago, rumak said:

feel like i'm on acid ....... running on electromagnetic flows.    go with the flow !

 

TriTorch

Out Here On the Perimeter

1h

They taught you the heart was just a glorified meat pump. That it squeezes and pushes blood like some crude mechanical device. A hydraulic engine made of flesh. That is what they want you to believe. Because if you buy into that primitive lie, you never ask deeper questions.

But it is false. It has always been false. And the real science proves it.

Dr Francisco Torrent-Guasp, a Spanish cardiac researcher, discovered what the textbooks refuse to acknowledge, that the heart is not a pump. He dissected thousands of hearts and found that the heart is a single continuous muscle band, folded into a spiral. He proved the heart works like a vortex generator, creating suction and torque, not pressure.

He called it the Helical Ventricular Myocardial Band and it changes everything.

The real movement of blood comes from pressure differentials, electromagnetic flow, and coherent resonance. The blood spirals naturally. It does not need to be forced through miles of arteries and capillaries. That idea is beyond stupid. The so-called pump is not strong enough to push thick fluid through 60,000 miles of tubing. That is basic physics. That lie was dead on arrival.

Here is the truth. Blood moves before the heart forms in the embryo. It flows via frequency, resonance, and electric charge. The body is a field, not a factory.

Your heart creates a toroidal electromagnetic field that radiates six metres from the body. This field syncs with the Earth, the Sun, and every living being around you. It is a resonator. A tuner. A conductor. It aligns the rhythm of your cells. It feels. It remembers. It emits. And it responds to emotion, thought, light, sound, and breath.

When you feel love, grief, fear, or peace, your heart transmits it. It is the central frequency modulator of your biology. Not a crude pump.

And the institutions know this. The HeartMath Institute has measured these fields for decades. They know the heart has more neuronal cells than parts of the brain. They know it is a second brain. They know coherence in the heart transforms the entire nervous system.

So why are they still teaching children a 400-year-old guess from William Harvey that has never been updated?

Because if you knew the truth, you would never accept statins or beta blockers again. You would understand that trauma, emotion, and disconnection break the heart field, not cholesterol. You would stop obeying the medical cartel and start tuning your body like the intelligent frequency field it is.

They do not want coherent humans. They want disrupted, inflamed, fragmented people who rely on drugs to survive. That is the business model. And the fake heart pump lie is central to it.

Your heart is not a pressure valve. It is a vortex. A field tuner. A resonating gateway between physical and energetic worlds.

It is the instrument of your soul.

And it has been hijacked by science that refuses to evolve. —Jamie Freeman

''Human Heart - Cosmic Heart''

 

Book by Dr Thomas Cowan.

[rumak]

10 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

''Human Heart - Cosmic Heart''

 

Book by Dr Thomas Cowan.

 

you were in my mind when i read that.... then posted it . 

    lol  

the "science" is above my pay grade ........ but I believe i do understand/feel what 

is at the "heart" of the matter .

[cmsally]

"In response to a Freedom of Information (“FoI”) Act request, Police Scotland has provided a directive that instructed police and staff not to accept complaints or reports regarding covid vaccinations.

Dated January 2022, the directive emphasised that requests from the public related to reporting alleged crimes about the vaccine should be refused."

https://expose-news.com/2025/06/28/foi-confirms-that-police-scotland/