Rabies vaccine?

[LosLobo]

8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

   Its not only expensive  , they also inject the serum directly into the wound . the needle goes right into the wound and in different locations .

   Insert the needle in six different places inside the would , 

Yes — that’s true. When giving HRIG (or ERIG), the protocol is to infiltrate as much of the serum directly into and around the wound as anatomically feasible. It’s not pleasant — multiple injections at different angles, directly into the tissue.
 

But that’s because it’s not just a vaccine — it’s passive immunity, and it needs to be where the virus is. If you leave it all in the arm like a flu shot, it doesn’t do its job.

[Nick Carter icp]

On 6/20/2025 at 8:08 AM, BritManToo said:

Yes, I keep rabbits.

One bit me and the vet asked if I wanted rabies vaccine.

It doesn't have rabies, it's just forgotten it's prey, and is a bit bitey.

 

 

   Even rabbits don't like you and they bite you 

[still kicking]

Ask Red Phoenix 

[Gaccha]

There is some staggeringly bad and flippant advice in this thread. Having had an extremely healthy and fit friend die in his early 30s from rabies, I know what it can do to you.

 

When I attended Mahidol for my first rabies injection, they informed me that between 3% to 5% of dogs in Bangkok have rabies. They are regarded as the experts on rabies in Thailand.

 

If you live in Thailand you should definitely obtain the pre-exposure jabs which are available for free at government hospitals if you have social security with them. If not you will pay around 500 baht per jab. 

 

I have been bitten four times in Thailand so I am painfully aware of what has to be done. You must attend a hospital within 1 hour of the bite so a nurse can give you a rabies, tetanus (if necessary) and very carefully clean the wound with extremely strong chemicals. You then return one-two weeks later to get the second jab.

 

If you are foolish enough not to get the pre-exposure jabs, then you need to get the painful and expensive immunoglobulin, and a lengthy course of normal injections. In the countryside you might find it extremely difficult to find any hospital with this supplied, and even more difficult to reach those hospitals by the end of day zero of the bite.

 

Any sign of symptoms equals certain death.

[brewsterbudgen]

30 minutes ago, Gaccha said:

There is some staggeringly bad and flippant advice in this thread. Having had an extremely healthy and fit friend die in his early 30s from rabies, I know what it can do to you.

 

When I attended Mahidol for my first rabies injection, they informed me that between 3% to 5% of dogs in Bangkok have rabies. They are regarded as the experts on rabies in Thailand.

 

If you live in Thailand you should definitely obtain the pre-exposure jabs which are available for free at government hospitals if you have social security with them. If not you will pay around 500 baht per jab. 

 

I have been bitten four times in Thailand so I am painfully aware of what has to be done. You must attend a hospital within 1 hour of the bite so a nurse can give you a rabies, tetanus (if necessary) and very carefully clean the wound with extremely strong chemicals. You then return one-two weeks later to get the second jab.

 

If you are foolish enough not to get the pre-exposure jabs, then you need to get the painful and expensive immunoglobulin, and a lengthy course of normal injections. In the countryside you might find it extremely difficult to find any hospital with this supplied, and even more difficult to reach those hospitals by the end of day zero of the bite.

 

Any sign of symptoms equals certain death.

Can children obtain the pre-exposure jabs?

[Gaccha]

1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Can children obtain the pre-exposure jabs?

Yes. And since they are less likely to act on bites or licks etc, it is particularly important for them to receive the pre-exposure jabs (PrEP).

[Nick Carter icp]

1 hour ago, Gaccha said:

 

. You must attend a hospital within 1 hour of the bite so a nurse can give you a rabies,

 

   3 days , not 1 hour 

[Gaccha]

7 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   3 days , not 1 hour 

You should aim for day zero and within 1 hour of the bite. But even going to hospital after 5 years (!) it is worth it, if you got bitten and never attended.

[Nick Carter icp]

4 minutes ago, Gaccha said:

You should aim for day zero and within 1 hour of the bite. But even going to hospital after 5 years (!) it is worth it, if you got bitten and never attended.

 

  You need to begin treatment/injections  within three days of being bitten (for the vaccines to definitely work) , anything later than 3 days and the vaccines might be ineffective 

[Gaccha]

19 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

anything later than 3 days and the vaccines might be ineffective 

Of course. But there are people who got bitten years ago who never went to the hospital. And I'm simply pointing out that best practice is to encourage them to attend despite the time that has gone by.

[Lorry]

2 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Can children obtain the pre-exposure jabs?

Yes

[Lorry]

3 hours ago, Gaccha said:

You then return one-two weeks later to get the second jab.

The second jab is usually given 3 days after the first,  not one or 2 weeks.

This is just a small detail in your otherwise very good post.

[Lorry]

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   3 days , not 1 hour 

as soon as possible. 

It is not recommended to wait until the next day with the first jab. Should be done on day 0.

And the wound should be cleaned immediately. "Cleaning" here means considerably more than holding the wound  under a faucet for 30 seconds. 

The wound should be vigorously cleaned with soap and water for 15 minutes. 

[Nick Carter icp]

I had the Speeda anti rabies injections in Thailand and I needed the last Speeda injection when I was already back in the UK and they do not use the Speeda vaccine in the U.K

[Lorry]

Animals that behave atypical are highly suspicious:

deer not afraid of humans

a dog sunbathing 

Don't go near them!

BTW a dog sick with rabies will often just be very sleepy. Not rabid like certain president. 

[Lorry]

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

I had the Speeda anti rabies injections in Thailand and I needed the last Speeda injection when I was already back in the UK and they do not use the Speeda vaccine in the U.K

Speeda is interchangeable with Verorab.

[Nick Carter icp]

4 minutes ago, Lorry said:

Speeda is interchangeable with Verorab.

 

  No it isnt .

You need to keep to the same brand 

3 doses/injections  of Verorab are required

5 doses/injections  of Speeda are required 

Cannot mix them 

[Lorry]

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  No it isnt .

You need to keep to the same brand 

3 doses/injections  of Verorab are required

5 doses/injections  of Speeda are required 

Cannot mix them 

You do not need to keep to the same brand. 

It's preferable, of course. 

You confuse different vaccination schedules  (3,4, 5 jabs) with different brands of jabs (Speeda, Verorab, Rabipur)

You may be excused,  as there are various schedules,  and there has been some change during the last years. Change sometimes driven by Thailand, which is a leader in rabies vaccination research. 

[Nick Carter icp]

12 minutes ago, Lorry said:

You do not need to keep to the same brand. 

It's preferable, of course. 

You confuse different vaccination schedules  (3,4, 5 jabs) with different brands of jabs (Speeda, Verorab, Rabipur)

You may be excused,  as there are various schedules,  and there has been some change during the last years. Change sometimes driven by Thailand, which is a leader in rabies vaccination research. 

 

 The UK NHS wouldn't use the UK vaccine if you'd already begun the Speeda vaccine course