The average IQ in Thailand is 89

[NorthernRyland]

45 minutes ago, Ebumbu said:

So, as I understand you, you believe that certain races are intellectually inferior to White people, such as "people of color" in general. That seems like Africans, South Americans, Central Americans and others who have dark skin. Yes?

 

And, you believe that selective breeding of humans (eugenics) is a reasonable solution given the first point. Have I summarized your position accurately? If not, please correct me about your views. 

 

 

Isn't that what we see? Why are they dropping the test requirements for certain races and not others? as others pointed out the Asian students don't have this problem. 

 

Humans are still animals. If monkeys and dogs have different intelligences then the same can be true for human populations.

 

 

[Ebumbu]

1 minute ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

Isn't that what we see? Why are they dropping the test requirements for certain races and not others? as others pointed out the Asian students don't have this problem. 

 

Humans are still animals. If monkeys and dogs have different intelligences then the same can be true for human populations.

 

 

 

 

Your image claims there are no races. But your arguments are about the superiority of certain races. And you will answer no questions directly. So, reasoned debate become impossible. I'll try again. 

 

Are you aware of the eugenics movement and would you say your ideas align with theirs? They seem to. But, when challenged, you post an analogy about dogs. Yes, dogs have breeds. Different breeds are not different races. How does that relate to human races?  Would you plainly share your views on these race-related questions without being metaphorical? 

- Is there a White race? Is the White race superior? 

- Is there a Black race? How can we define it? What's the metric by which we can determine one's race? Do Blacks have lower IQs? 

 

- Can someone appear to be White but actually be Black and vice versa? Do we need to check their DNA? 

- Are Jews White? 

- What race are you? Can you prove it? 

- Is selective breeding of superior races a good idea or a bad idea? 

 

- Putting aside the atrocities, was Hitler misunderstood in some ways? 

 

- Did the Holocaust actually happen? I know there has been some debate about this. Where do you come down? 

Let's speak plainly and avoid metaphor so we can understand and share knowledge. 

 

[Watawattana]

17 hours ago, LosLobo said:

You’re adding up districts that are already included in Hong Kong's total.
 

Hong Kong SAR is one city-region, not a collection of cities.
 

Kowloon, Tsuen Wan, Yuen Long, etc., aren’t separate cities — they’re parts of the city of Hong Kong SAR.
 

The site calls them “cities” for simplicity, but that’s misleading — they’re not cities, just districts within one city-region.
 

Hong Kong’s population is ~7 million — not 9.

That's exactly my point.  Thank you for confirming and understanding my point.

[NorthernRyland]

30 minutes ago, Ebumbu said:

Your image claims there are no races. But your arguments are about the superiority of certain races. And you will answer no questions directly. So, reasoned debate become impossible. I'll try again. 

 

 

No you missed the point. It's mocking the idea that races don't exist and shows the double standard we apply to humans and not animals.

 

Sorry I'm not going to go through your list and confess to though crimes. 

 

I'll just say this, I don't care what anyones IQ, I'm just saying not everyone is the same and not all populations are the same. That's just how the world appears to be so prepare accordingly.

[Ebumbu]

1 minute ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

No you missed the point. It's mocking the idea that races don't exist and shows the double standard we apply to humans and not animals.

 

Sorry I'm not going to go through your list and confess to though crimes. 

 

I'll just say this, I don't care what anyones IQ, I'm just saying not everyone is the same and not all populations are the same. That's just how the world appears to be so prepare accordingly.

 

 

What double standard does the image mock? Your posts are full of innuendo, but you won't clearly state your premises. We're supposed to understand -- by dog whistle. 

Each of the dogs in your image is a separate breed. They can mate with other dog breeds. They are not separate races, but they are separate breeds. I have no idea what you are implying with the dog image, and you won't tell me. 

But  I understand you are literally a racist (eugenicist): meaning you place a great deal of importance on the idea of race -- even if you can't define how many races there are and how to test for race. You believe race should be considered when structuring our societies. You believe race should be involved when decided who our leaders should be. Feel free to correct me. 

Let's assume you're right. So, to start, how many races are there? Let's start by naming them. Since races exist, we can number and identify them. Please share the race list with me. I lost my copy. 

If I ask you to define race, or if I ask you how what metric can help us to identify which race a person belongs to, you post dog pictures. This is called arguing in bad faith. Lots of innuendo. Citations to prove a premise that is never clearly articulated. 

 

Just remember: The United States is projected to become a "minority white" country around 2045, according to estimates from the U.S. Census Bureau. This projection is based on demographic trends, where the white population is expected to decline as a percentage of the total population, while the Hispanic, Black, Asian, and multiracial populations continue to grow. I hope you live to see it. 

 

[Yellowtail]

48 minutes ago, Ebumbu said:

 

 

Your image claims there are no races. But your arguments are about the superiority of certain races. And you will answer no questions directly. So, reasoned debate become impossible. I'll try again. 

 

Are you aware of the eugenics movement and would you say your ideas align with theirs? They seem to. But, when challenged, you post an analogy about dogs. Yes, dogs have breeds. Different breeds are not different races. How does that relate to human races?  Would you plainly share your views on these race-related questions without being metaphorical? 

- Is there a White race? Is the White race superior? 

- Is there a Black race? How can we define it? What's the metric by which we can determine one's race? Do Blacks have lower IQs? 

 

- Can someone appear to be White but actually be Black and vice versa? Do we need to check their DNA? 

- Are Jews White? 

- What race are you? Can you prove it? 

- Is selective breeding of superior races a good idea or a bad idea? 

 

- Putting aside the atrocities, was Hitler misunderstood in some ways? 

 

- Did the Holocaust actually happen? I know there has been some debate about this. Where do you come down? 

Let's speak plainly and avoid metaphor so we can understand and share knowledge. 

 

I do not believe you want to "speak plainly and avoid metaphor so we can understand and share knowledge.".

 

But if you do, please explain why apparently "At 13 Baltimore City high schools, zero students tested proficient on 2023 state math exam", even though they spend $22.424 per student and the median household income is $59,623.

 

To be clear, I do not for a moment believe it is because the majority of students are black and or poor. 

 

 

[Ebumbu]

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

But if you do, please explain why apparently "At 13 Baltimore City high schools, zero students tested proficient on 2023 state math exam", even though they spend $22.424 per student and the median household income is $59,623.

 

I have no knowledge of this provincial issue. Any answer I might give would be a guess. But, in life, I've learned that many issues that seem simple at first glance are often multifactorial. When I need to solve a complex problem, I check that I'm not engaging in binary thinking. Life is rarely black and white. And Thailand, which we all cherish and love, is the epitome of "gray area" or ambiguity. You know the contradictions here -- I don't need to state them. It's a great place to learn to break out of binary thinking. Mai ben rai! 

 

 

[MarkBR]

2 hours ago, Ebumbu said:

 

So, as I understand you, you believe that certain races are intellectually inferior to White people, such as "people of color" in general. That seems like Africans, South Americans, Central Americans and others who have dark skin. Yes?

 

And, you believe that selective breeding of humans (eugenics) is a reasonable solution given the first point. Have I summarized your position accurately? If not, please correct me about your views. 

One seemingly unrelated question, but it is relevant: are you of Irish descent? What is your ancestry? Has it been checked genetically? Let's make it interesting. 

 

I am sure we can guess at NotherR6land's IQ score.😁

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, MarkBR said:

I am sure we can guess at NotherR6land's IQ score.😁

Can anyone not guess at anyone's IQ?

 

[TroubleandGrumpy]

16 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

Do you understand that people from the same FAMILY and who went to the same schools have different IQ? It's at least 50% genetic and varies by population groups too for this reason.

The IQ test has nothing to do with where you were born and what family you are in. It was designed for kids - to identify the smart ones from the idiots.  Many times there are brothers or sisters and one is a Tradie/Cleaner and the other is a Doctor/Lawyer.  Genetics is only a small part of the IQ test results - otherwise of course brothers and sister would all be the same IQ.  Education is the single biggest factor that affects IQ test results. That does not mean all kids all learn the same at the same school - some will want to learn and will work, and some do not and would rather party, screw or get some drugs.  That is one reason why Asians who have been to schools in the West have a higher IQ that other groups - it is not genetic it is because they tend to be better focused on doing well at school - or they get beaten by their parents 🙂

 

[TroubleandGrumpy]

16 hours ago, ukrules said:

 

That's nonsense. Your IQ is largely fixed late in adolescence, it's a measure of cognitive potential, nothing more and certainly not education.

 

Back when I was at school they made us all do an IQ test, this was in the 80s when we were 15 or 16 years old depending on when in the academic year you were born.

After about this age your IQ will generally not change much if at all. You might be able to spend your time practicing IQ test type questions and get better at the tests but that doesn't change anything other than your ability to do those type of quizzes.

I remember we were told during the test that there are many more questions that we can possibly answer in the alloted time - likely about an hour and that's how it's designed - they said don't allow yourself to get stuck on one question - if you don't know it and can't figure it out just leave it blank and move on to the next question.
 

I guarantee you that you are talking 'moonshine' mate.  I want you to think about this - just for a minute - it wont hurt mate - I promise.  Imagine you had never been to school at all and could not read or write - and that you did not know about not getting stuck on one question - and other things that you knew - how well would you have done in that IQ test when you were young??   Being educated gives you the ability to do better in IQ tests than not being educated - end of story.  Someone with a decent brain who has not been educated at all will not do as well at an IQ test as an idiot that has been educated. That is my point - IQ test result are inherently biased towards those that have been educated - and it is not a true test of thinking ability or memory recall or rational and logical thought processes.