UK British Citizens Being Left Behind? Councils Housing More Asylum Seekers Than the Homeless”

[Geoff914]

13 hours ago, Jimjim1 said:

ENTIRELY WITHOUT PREJUDICE 

If you are a natural British subject born in Britain of British born parents and you hold a genuine British passport there is no reason for you to be told to leave the country UNLESS you are not a natural Britain.

IF you arrived here as an immigrant, won a long stay visa and then involved yourself in some form of criminal activity which resulted in your visa being cancelled and you being told to remove yourself or you were deported.

IF this was the case then perhaps you deserved what you got BUT if this was not the case then I strongly advise you to contest your case.

I know of no instances where the British government has the power to remove the passport and any other benefits of being a 100% Natural born British citizen because to do so would make that person stateless, only the immigrant can make him/herself stateless by dumping any home country passport and trying to pass themselves off as an unknown, a trick played by many illegal immigrants to our country.

IF any of the above applies to you then may I suggest that you have been somewhat liberal with the truth around your situation, however if it does not then I return to my earlier suggestion that you contest your case strongly.

The British government is not an ogre unless it is correct in it’s submission

So you are calling me a liar then. The barrister representing the Home Office stated that if I wanted rights to a private life then I should leave the country and go and live in Thailand. In the court were the Home Office barrister, my barrister and the judge witnesses to that statement. Are you calling them liars as well. I would be very very careful who you are calling a liar. If you are in Thailand then you have committed a criminal offense. In the UK just a civil offense. I find it offensive that a British national has to stand up in front of an immigration judge and say why I should not have to leave the country but then I am white. Say that to a British national from an ethnic minority and there is an army of legal aid immigrant supporting legal people to protect them. White people just get branded as far right. My MP did f*** all about it. As I said I am white so what chance do I have challenging that. I don't have bottomless pockets and the wrong ethnicity to get legal aid.

[BarraMarra]

On 6/24/2025 at 11:46 PM, NanLaew said:

 

Unrest in Southport and Balymena was primarily triggered by misinformation, lies and racist bile on social media.

 

I am not sure about what caused the protests in etc.

Wrong NanLaew the riots were caused primarily because Starmer kept the truth hidden and allowed or should i say told the press to show the face of the murderer as a cute Schoolboy from Wales instead of the police mugshot.  What the Police didn't tell us was that Rudakubana was thrown out of School for carrying a knife to School and when the police raided his home a day after the murders they found Al- Qaeda material and ingredients to make a Bomb. A few rent a mob turned up to cause trouble who always turn up to most protests the riots were also caused illegal migrants in Hotels and being preferential treatment against uk citizens. 

 https://i2-prod.dailystar.co.uk/incoming/article33383505.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_Axel-Rudakubana-split.jpg

[Dene16]

On 6/23/2025 at 9:52 AM, The Cyclist said:

Who is going to buy a property of upwards of £400k, when 20% of them are for social tenants ?

It happens, a friend of mine has worked on a number of sites has said exactly that "who the hell is going to buy these 400k+ houses at one end of the street just to have council houses at the other end "

When they built high quality flats in a marina in Southampton 20% were allocated to social housing with the only stipulation being they could not be bought at a later date.

[nauseus]

On 6/24/2025 at 2:19 PM, johnnybangkok said:

I'll let AI answer that for you:- 

 

Asylum seekers may choose to leave France for the UK due to a combination of factors including the perception of better economic opportunities, family connections, language, and cultural ties, despite France receiving more asylum applications and refugees overall. While some may find conditions in northern France difficult, the UK also faces challenges in managing its asylum system and providing adequate support, with some asylum seekers facing destitution and inadequate living conditions. Here's a more detailed breakdown:

 

Factors influencing the decision to leave France for the UK:

• Economic Opportunities:

The UK is perceived as having a larger "shadow economy" and more opportunities for informal work, even if poorly paid, than France. 

• Family and Community Ties:

Many asylum seekers have family members or strong connections within the UK's large diaspora and ethnic minority communities. 

• Language:

English is more widely spoken in the UK than French, making it a more appealing destination for those who have learned English. 

• Cultural and Historical Factors:

Some asylum seekers may have pre-existing ties to the UK due to historical connections, such as former British colonies. 

 

 

"English is more widely spoken in the UK than French".

 

AI will save the world. I'm sure of that now.

[NanLaew]

4 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

Wrong NanLaew the riots were caused primarily because Starmer kept the truth hidden and allowed or should i say told the press to show the face of the murderer as a cute Schoolboy from Wales instead of the police mugshot.  What the Police didn't tell us was that Rudakubana was thrown out of School for carrying a knife to School and when the police raided his home a day after the murders they found Al- Qaeda material and ingredients to make a Bomb. A few rent a mob turned up to cause trouble who always turn up to most protests the riots were also caused illegal migrants in Hotels and being preferential treatment against uk citizens. 

 https://i2-prod.dailystar.co.uk/incoming/article33383505.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_Axel-Rudakubana-split.jpg

 

The Southport rioting was PRIMARILY caused by a post on social media, subsequently proven to be from malicious parties, stating that the attacker was an illegal immigrant who had just arrived in the country. It makes absolutely no difference what picture of the murderer was released because most of the rioters don't like coloured people anyway. This is evidenced in their trying to set fire to a hotel with coloured people in it.

 

Light the blue touch paper of the ignorant and ill-advised, and stand well back from the drunken lynch mob that ensues.

[The Cyclist]

4 hours ago, Dene16 said:

When they built high quality flats in a marina in Southampton 20% were allocated to social housing with the only stipulation being they could not be bought at a later date.

 

This one ?
 

Quote

Scheme will not include affordable housing following viability assessment

Plans for 460-home scheme at Town Quay Marina in Southampton have been given the go-ahead.

 The mixed-use scheme, which also includes a hotel, was approved by planners at Southampton City Council earlier this week

 

https://www.housingtoday.co.uk/green-light-for-460-home-mixed-use-marina-scheme-in-southampton/5134805.article

 

You will find that this is endemic throughout the UK. Affordable housing included to gain planning permission. affordable housing dropped once project begins as being non viable.

 

There have also been a number of high profile Court Cases, where the Council took the developer to Court for dropping the affordable housing.

 

Hobsons choice for the Court.

 

Rule in favour of the Council and the project does not go ahead. Invariably, the decision goes in favour of the developers.

[BarraMarra]

2 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

The Southport rioting was PRIMARILY caused by a post on social media, subsequently proven to be from malicious parties, stating that the attacker was an illegal immigrant who had just arrived in the country. It makes absolutely no difference what picture of the murderer was released because most of the rioters don't like coloured people anyway. This is evidenced in their trying to set fire to a hotel with coloured people in it.

 

Light the blue touch paper of the ignorant and ill-advised, and stand well back from the drunken lynch mob that ensues.

Is that why the head of Police put out a statement hours after the Liverpool car rampage naming the driver and his Nationality immediately before  wrong info was given out on social media.

[NanLaew]

7 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Is that why the head of Police put out a statement hours after the Liverpool car rampage naming the driver and his Nationality immediately before  wrong info was given out on social media.

 

Probably. Lessons were learned after Southport which I agree was very badly managed, but some folk are slow learners.

[BarraMarra]

2 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

Probably. Lessons were learned after Southport which I agree was very badly managed, but some folk are slow learners.

I take on board it started as false information to start with but the Police and starmer hid the true facts about this piece of scum trying to portray him as a child like choir boy and from Wales. All lies to defuse the potential for a all out riot on the streets. When infact he was living close with parents who  came to the UK from Africa.

[NanLaew]

Just now, BarraMarra said:

I take on board it started as false information to start with but the Police and starmer hid the true facts about this piece of scum trying to portray him as a child like choir boy and from Wales. All lies to defuse the potential for a all out riot on the streets. When infact he was living close with parents who  came to the UK from Africa.

 

I do not recall any media effort to portray the murderer as "choir boy from Wales". In lieu of anything the police released later, that was probably the only picture that was in the public domain at the time. That isn't Starmer's fault. The age of the murderer was also a significant legal factor in why he could not be publicly identified sooner.

 

Now he's been identified and convicted, if you search on social media, there's probably only about four pictures of him, two of which are the ones issued at the time. The murderer was British-born, and the ethnicity and UK immigration status of his Rwandan parents is irrelevant.

 

[Geoff914]

3 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

 The murderer was British-born, and the ethnicity and UK immigration status of his Rwandan parents is irrelevant.

 

Yes his parents pleaded total innocence. Their son was out of control and could do nothing about him. May be.

[Geoff914]

4 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

Is that why the head of Police put out a statement hours after the Liverpool car rampage naming the driver and his Nationality immediately before  wrong info was given out on social media.

And a much more recent photo not a photo when he was a 14 year choir boy.

[Dene16]

7 hours ago, The Cyclist said:

This one ?

No.  The one i was referring to actually happened many years ago. i only found out about it when someone i knew said he had to go and see his ex wife and she was resident in the high class flats, rented via housing society or council .

Although a friend, i would of had nightmares at the thought of having him as a neighbour or even resident in the same block. Probably same area (ocean Village) though just another project.   

Unless things have changed in the last few years it seems/was very prevalent in Southampton.

[NanLaew]

2 hours ago, Geoff914 said:

Yes his parents pleaded total innocence. Their son was out of control and could do nothing about him. May be.

 

I haven't read or heard any direct quotes from his parents. They obviously struggled with his behaviour, but it appears the heaviest 'punishments' for carrying knives into school were being banned or suspended from schools. The government scheme called Prevent can also be apportioned some blame as they reportedly 'intervened' at least three times over the years. He was on a watch list, but they still managed to miss opportunities to at least have him sectioned. 

 

His father stopped him getting in a taxi to go to his old school where he claimed to have been bullied and, armed with a knife, was going to kill the bullies. The following week, it appears he was going to walk to the school, but then went into the dance class and committed the assaults and murders. It was almost like a secondary target.

[Geoff914]

29 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

I haven't read or heard any direct quotes from his parents. They obviously struggled with his behaviour, but it appears the heaviest 'punishments' for carrying knives into school were being banned or suspended from schools. The government scheme called Prevent can also be apportioned some blame as they reportedly 'intervened' at least three times over the years. He was on a watch list, but they still managed to miss opportunities to at least have him sectioned. 

 

His father stopped him getting in a taxi to go to his old school where he claimed to have been bullied and, armed with a knife, was going to kill the bullies. The following week, it appears he was going to walk to the school, but then went into the dance class and committed the assaults and murders. It was almost like a secondary target.

Successive Governments had threatened to bring in laws to hold parents of feral youths responsible. Something that I actually thought was a daft idea.