Report Thai Student's Attack in NY Highlights Safety Concerns

[Yagoda]

7 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

A completely ridiculous and totally blinkered response but one to be expected from the Huntsman. America is a very violent country and Americans seem to love their violence. Violence in Republican controlled cities is just as terrible. 

As usual, you lie. Violent crime in America is primarily a product of inner city violence caused by black Americans whose lives have been ruined by the anti American policies of the Democrats

[couchpotato]

3 hours ago, Yagoda said:

As usual, you lie. Violent crime in America is primarily a product of inner city violence caused by black Americans whose lives have been ruined by the anti American policies of the Democrats

So white people, Hispanics and other immigrant nationalities are just lovely people who don't make problems and never get violent. What a crappy attitude to have in life.

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, couchpotato said:

So white people, Hispanics and other immigrant nationalities are just lovely people who don't make problems and never get violent. What a crappy attitude to have in life.

Cant argue with the stats though can we? So just flame? 

 

Best place to live per the stats would be a Hindu area.

[Evil Penevil]

Young Thai women are sometimes targeted by street muggers who believe these women are prostitutes carrying cash or wearing valuable jewelry.  Elderly Asians are targeted for the same reason.  Moreover,  Asian women are seldom armed or fight back.  Some of these attacks are motivated in part at least by racial hatred, but mostly it is because Asians are seen as "easy"  targets.

 

While areas of New York City can be dangerous, especially when compared to European and Asian cities, it is by no means the most dangerous city in the U.S.  Homicide and other crime rates have dropped significantly since the 1990s.

 

 

During some months pre-COVID, New York had fewer homicides than London, which was totally unprecedented in modern times.

 

Reality Check: Has London's murder rate overtaken New York's?   London had gotten a lot more dangerous while New York City had gotten much safer.

 

 

Pre-COVID NYC was by far the safest large city in the U.S. and remains so.

 

 

https://www.vitalcitynyc.org/articles/the-state-of-crime-in-new-york-city-at-midyear-2024

[AgMech Cowboy]

13 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

80 people

I think your under reporting...

[Zakhar]

12 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

@Patong2021

 

Here are the sources I have used to collect and compile the data.

1.          https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/. Tab data explorer. You should be able to navigate from there, find and compile data.

2.          https://www.safewise.com/blog/most-dangerous-cities/

3.          https://counciloncj.org/crime-trends-in-u-s-cities-year-end-2024-update/

4.          https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/04/24/what-the-data-says-about-crime-in-the-u-s/

Secondly, the policies of the ruling party literarily affect everything and every of the communities we live in. Such policies explicitly implemented using legislation or as given to the enforcement authorities as unwritten guidance.

Here is an example for you. Proposition forty-seven legislated in California made shoplifting or any theft under $ 950 as a misdemeanor. Anybody arrested literarily send home free and DA does not prosecute. The effect is that all stored literarily lock up their merchandise and hire security guards to prevent theft. However, the increased cost of goods is nicely transferred to the consumers.

If passed AB 1333, literarily make self-defense a crime. A DAs can prosecute you at their will.

Policies implemented will affect the quality of your life, your freedom, and your liberty.

12 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

What is your source because I verified with multiple data bases before I commented.

For example; https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-21st-century-red-state-murder-crisis

- The red state murder rate was 33% higher than the blue state murder rate in both 2021 and 2022.

- 2022 was the 23rd consecutive year that murder plagued Trump-voting states at far higher levels than Biden-voting states.

8 out of the 10 states with the highest murder rates in 2022 voted for Donald Trump in both 2016 and 2020.

- From 2000 to 2022, the average red state murder rate was 24% higher than the average blue state murder rate.

- Red states like Mississippi, Louisiana, and Alabama are America’s murder capitals and have had the highest three murder rates for 15 of the last 23 years.

- The excuse that sky high red state murder rates are because of their blue cities is without merit. Even after removing the county with the largest city from red states, and not from blue states, red state murder rates were still 20% higher in 2021 and 16% higher in 2022.

 

Simpletons  offer broad generalizations with the sole intent of  supporting their  biased political claims. The reality is that there something that people with common sense readily appreciate;

The partisanship of mayors has no detectable effect on police spending, police employment, crime, or arrests

Science Advances  15 Jan 2025 Vol 11, Issue 3 DOI: 10.1126/sciadv.adq8052

This study examined data from 400 U.S. cities over nearly three decades and found the political affiliation of mayors made little difference when it comes to crime rates and policing.

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2025/01/whos-softer-on-crime-democrats-or-republicans/

 

 

 

[Magictoad]

Thais need to be taught that when in the UK or USA they SHOULD NOT USE public transport.  They should hire a reputable Taxi.

[Magictoad]

6 hours ago, Yagoda said:

As usual, you lie. Violent crime in America is primarily a product of inner city violence caused by black Americans whose lives have been ruined by the anti American policies of the Democrats

I am English but I didn't know the Democrats were Anti-American; are the Republicans anti American too?

[Magictoad]

14 hours ago, Watawattana said:

Can't call myself an expert, but I felt safer in NYC the times I've been there than in London or Paris.  By a long way.

London isn't safe, im sorry to say. That's why I live here in Pattaya. 

[Yagoda]

10 minutes ago, Magictoad said:

I am English but I didn't know the Democrats were Anti-American; are the Republicans anti American too?

Not at all.

[Patong2021]

46 minutes ago, Zakhar said:

 

Here are the sources I have used to collect and compile the data.

1.          https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/. Tab data explorer. You should be able to navigate from there, find and compile data.

2.          https://www.safewise.com/blog/most-dangerous-cities/

3.          https://counciloncj.org/crime-trends-in-u-s-cities-year-end-2024-update/

4.          https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/04/24/what-the-data-says-about-crime-in-the-u-s/

Secondly, the policies of the ruling party literarily affect everything and every of the communities we live in. Such policies explicitly implemented using legislation or as given to the enforcement authorities as unwritten guidance.

Here is an example for you. Proposition forty-seven legislated in California made shoplifting or any theft under $ 950 as a misdemeanor. Anybody arrested literarily send home free and DA does not prosecute. The effect is that all stored literarily lock up their merchandise and hire security guards to prevent theft. However, the increased cost of goods is nicely transferred to the consumers.

If passed AB 1333, literarily make self-defense a crime. A DAs can prosecute you at their will.

Policies implemented will affect the quality of your life, your freedom, and your liberty.

 

 

Another data dump. It looks impressive, but doesn't support your claim. I suppose you think that if you throw up all sorts of references, people will think you are so smart and accept your biased claims? Let's look at some of the links;

 

Safewise: It shows that some of the most "dangerous" cities are in Republican states.  For example, Memphis, TN, Lubbock, TX, Little Rock, AR. Citing the bogeyman of California doesn't work out either, because the high crime city of Bakersfield, CA has a non partisan mayor, neither republican, nor Republican and anyone who knows the region knows that it leans Republican. Buck Owens and his Buckaroos came from there. Using your logic, one could say that because of the high number of republican voters, the  violence is a result. Of course this would be   an incorrect interpretation, but so too are your attempts to blame  democrat mayors for local crime rates.

 

https://counciloncj.org/crime-trends-in-u-s-cities-year-end-2024-update/  Certainly does not support your claim.  It states;  Examining trends over a longer timeframe, most violent crimes are at or below levels seen in 2019, the year prior to the onset of the COVID pandemic and racial justice protests of 2020. There were 6% fewer homicides in the study cities in 2024 than in 2019. Similarly, sexual assault (-26%), domestic violence (-11%), and robbery (-19%) were lower in 2024 than in 2019. In contrast, aggravated assaults (+4%), gun assaults (+5%), and carjackings (+25%) were higher in 2024 than in 2019.   Violent crime rates ha

If violent crime is reducing, your claim  is not supported.

 

The Pew research you refer to does not support your claims either. Did you read it? 

Using the FBI data, the violent crime rate fell 49% between 1993 and 2022, with large decreases in the rates of robbery (-74%), aggravated assault (-39%) and murder/nonnegligent manslaughter (-34%). It’s not possible to calculate the change in the rape rate during this period because the FBI revised its definition of the offense in 2013.

The FBI data also shows a 59% reduction in the U.S. property crime rate between 1993 and 2022, with big declines in the rates of burglary (-75%), larceny/theft (-54%) and motor vehicle theft (-53%).

Using the BJS statistics, the declines in the violent and property crime rates are even steeper than those captured in the FBI data. Per BJS, the U.S. violent and property crime rates each fell 71% between 1993 and 2022.

 

Now you have gone from pushing the false claim that Democrat mayors are responsible for high crime rates, to  blaming the "ruling party" . Fine. However, the highest rates of violent crime are in republican controlled states.  It goes hand in hand with their rates of child poverty, and low levels of education. Maybe there is a link between poverty, few educational opportunities and violent crime?

 

You can't even be truthful when you refer to Proposition  47 in California. It was a citizen initiative, passed by referendum. That means it is something the  electorate wanted. The proposition was needed to  address prison overcrowding, and to reduce the high cost of  incarcerating nonviolent crimes. The state taxpayers had a choice, spend billions more on  putting people in prison, or try and divert these people to less expensive  programs. The reality is that since most shoplifting cases involved amounts under $400, the  proposition did not  change prosecutions after the change in the threshold. The reason why  so many stores backed off from interfering with shoplifters  was due to litigation. Juries were awarding large settlements to shoplifters who were injured when security took them down. Bystanders were suing because of collateral damage and for things like emotional distress. Employees were claiming  for large amounts when they were injured taking down shoplifters. Those juries were made up of people just like you, sticking it to the "man". 

 

You cannot even be truthful when referring to California AB 1333. Personal defense and the "Castle Doctrine" is  untouched. Someone breaks into a home, and presents a threat and the occupant who kills, still retains the  right of defense.  The change is being sought to prevent violent criminals from engaging in shootouts in public spaces, and  using self defence as a justification. It is intended to address nutcases who provoke confrontations and fights and then claim self-defense when they do harm. It happens in road rage where a person harasses other drivers and then attempts to shoot that person. it happens in  gang wars when  gang members engage in shoot outs in  shopping malls. It makes clear that there is a duty to avoid violence in public spaces, with the goal of preventing injury to bystanders when people start firing off their guns.  The  NRA is opposed to the change. 

 

In effect, all that you have done is to regurgitate extreme right wing political crap.

 

[Patong2021]

26 minutes ago, Magictoad said:

London isn't safe, im sorry to say. That's why I live here in Pattaya. 

There are some who say that Pattaya isn't safe because of the presence of angry old bitter UK nationals. 

[Patong2021]

13 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/nevius/article/Dirty-secret-of-black-on-Asian-violence-is-out-3265760.php

 

And how does an opinion piece written in 2010 in respect to San Francisco, apply to NYC in 2025?

I could cite an article from the 1950's citing the high incidence of lynchings in some US counties. I don't think the  situation is applicable to the current  situation.