1 hour ago, Hummin said:

He said Africans is the most diverse population, and as far I know Egyptians lives in Africa, with a mix from neighboring countries. 

 

He didnt mention one word about being black or not. 

 

What you going to say about Americans? They are Europeans with a mix of all continents? But they lives in America. Still Africa have more diversity for now

 

These days yes, Egyptians lives in Africa. But in ancient days some living there were a mix black people (significantly Nubian) and others from the Near East, the Levant. Through history, Egypt was invaded or conquered by different peoples as the Hyksos, Ku<deleted>es, Assyrians, Persians and later the Romans and Arabs. 

 

Along with his commentary the were accompanying pictures of black people for all the groups....except for Egypt...where we saw a pyramid.

 

The less said about the Americans, the better.

16 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

I think your view on British History is remarkable. Remarkable wrong.

UK's army was indeed involved bombing poor countries and destroying their lives as "side kicks"  of US. 

And of course UK's soldiers were killing in Afghanistan. Many of those  who survived UK's killings are coming now as refugees.

It's UK's duty to help them.

You have now gone from claiming that the UK is responsible for its migrant crisis because of its bombing of other countries, to fixating on Afghanistan. The principal national source of the mostly economic migrants was listed, of which almost none had any relationship to British bombing. Now you are relying on the Afghanistan war as the reason.  The country accounts for a small number of the migrants and most are not actually coming from Afghanistan, but Pakistan where many have lived for years. They do not wish to return to Afghanistan which is ruled by the Taliban. It has little to do with the British role in Afghanistan. The migrants are from different tribal groups who have been warring for the past 3 centuries or more.

 

The British have no  history in Chad, or Cote d'Ivoire. The British did not create the 14 million Syrian refugees. That was the doing of Russia, Hezbollah and Iran.  It was Russian  aircraft who were bombing civilian  locations in Syria. It was the Iranian Republican Guards who levelled towns. It was Hezbollah which deployed tens of thousands of its fighters in Syria, not  the UK. 

 

8 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

The problem that you refer to is the Southport (terror) incident I think.

 

The protests and aggravated problems nationwide concerning the settlement of immigrants are different. They have not been simultaneous but they are serious enough to warrant national coverage. Families spread throughout the country get this news directly from kin, and they worry about it. It is a national concern now. 

 

You're right; these protests are uncoordinated and not simultaneous and, therefore, individually they are not worthy of nationwide coverage. 

 

I don't doubt that illegal migration is a national concern. What I reject is the idea that the national media is not giving it sufficient coverage. The link to the BBC documentary about the subject proves that.

48 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Why are the anti immigration people not moaning about that colossal waste of money? Why is it only the money spent on hotels which seems to bother them?

Well done for bring HS2 into the debate. What the hell HS2 has to do with anything I don't know but as far as I can tell the UK's high speed rail is going a whole lot better than Thailand's Chinese built high speed rail.

This the illegal Imigrant who arrived 8 days before he attacked a female and inciting a child to perform sex acts. This is just 1 of many sex offenders that have already been arrested on sex charges, and exactly why we need to know who is being allowed into the UK. He could have been a fast food delivery guy delivering a piza to your wife if you were out of the house.

 

4 minutes ago, Geoff914 said:

Well done for bring HS2 into the debate. What the hell HS2 has to do with anything I don't know but as far as I can tell the UK's high speed rail is going a whole lot better than Thailand's Chinese built high speed rail.

A few on here Geoff have no interest in the Thread its a game for them to wind up members just ignore them.

4 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Im sure you wouldnt like this Scum bag living next door to you RayC would you.

 

You're right, I wouldn't; who in their right mind would? But then not every immigrant - legal or illegal - is a sex offender.

3 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

You're right, I wouldn't; who in their right mind would? But then not every immigrant - legal or illegal - is a sex offender.

No we are not saying that Roy we are saying some or we do not know how many are coming into the UK, Please stop putting words into our Mouths.

31 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Im sure you wouldnt like this Scum bag living next door to you RayC would you.

I suppose the important thing is he wont be living next door to Starmer or Badenoch and neither of them care that this scum is out there in the community. Just as long as he is not in the community that the elite live in.

22 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

No we are not saying that Roy we are saying some or we do not know how many are coming into the UK, Please stop putting words into our Mouths.

Right and how about a bit of weeding out of the undesirables.

19 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

No we are not saying that Roy we are saying some or we do not know how many are coming into the UK, Please stop putting words into our Mouths.

 

Good so you admit that not all immigrants are wrong 'uns.

 

Not sure how I could have reached that conclusion given that every one of your posts either paints immigrants in a negative light or suggests that the native population are being victimised.

Where have I said all immigrants are sex pests ?? Native Population ? yes we are worried Roy. These boats are crammed with over 50 in a boat, there all young fighting age there maybe 1-2 females in the boat and there only there as a for protection so the boat is not slashed.

3 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Where have I said all immigrants are sex pests ?? Native Population ? yes we are worried Roy. These boats are crammed with over 50 in a boat, there all young fighting age there maybe 1-2 females in the boat and there only there as a for protection so the boat is not slashed.

 

Well you certainly haven't posted anything that could be considered remotely positive about immigrants.

 

You say that they are all young men of fighting age. What message are you trying to convey by that?

 

I don't doubt that many (most?) of these illegal immigrants are economic migrants and they should be dealt with accordingly. However, some are fleeing persecution and should be treated as refugees. If you were a homosexual or a political dissident in Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, etc wouldn't you flee to save your life?

I seem to recall that during the heydays of ISIS/ISIL one of the leaders ordered the faithful to do something that Mohammed had done and that was to invade certain places. I don't think the do called pull factors come into it. It was a religious order and the faithful are carrying it outthere is a term used for it that I cannot remember right now. Hajj, maybe?

24 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

I seem to recall that during the heydays of ISIS/ISIL one of the leaders ordered the faithful to do something that Mohammed had done and that was to invade certain places. I don't think the do called pull factors come into it. It was a religious order and the faithful are carrying it outthere is a term used for it that I cannot remember right now. Hajj, maybe?

i think the word you are looking for is the Jihad emptypockets

36 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

Well you certainly haven't posted anything that could be considered remotely positive about immigrants.

 

You say that they are all young men of fighting age. What message are you trying to convey by that?

 

I don't doubt that many (most?) of these illegal immigrants are economic migrants and they should be dealt with accordingly. However, some are fleeing persecution and should be treated as refugees. If you were a homosexual or a political dissident in Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, etc wouldn't you flee to save your life?

What a load of crap Rayc. I posted videos stating most if not all of the illegals coming over are yioung fighting age. As for persecution give us Evidence of just how many are legal and able to settle into society on Arrival. Don't come back with a deflection or whataboutism I'll give you something to think about while your searching. How many are old or how many females and kids are scrambling for the boat.

 

 

 

 

 

And while im at it watch and listen what was known a few years ago. 

 

 

2 hours ago, RayC said:

 

You're right, I wouldn't; who in their right mind would? But then not every immigrant - legal or illegal - is a sex offender.

 

Oh goody! That's OK then.

56 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Oh goody! That's OK then.

 

What's your point?

1 hour ago, BarraMarra said:

What a load of crap Rayc. I posted videos stating most if not all of the illegals coming over are yioung fighting age. As for persecution give us Evidence of just how many are legal and able to settle into society on Arrival. Don't come back with a deflection or whataboutism I'll give you something to think about while your searching. How many are old or how many females and kids are scrambling for the boat.

 

 

 

 

 

 

For the umpteenth time, complete and utter nonsense. It certainly is a load of crap, Barra.

 

You restate that most of the illegal immigrants are young men of fighting age. And? You consider that to be sufficient proof that they are about to cause havoc on the streets of the UK?

 

Numbers of refugees? In the year to September 2024, 62,089 people were granted refugee status in the UK.

 

As for deflection or whataboutism, more absolute nonsense. I've addressed your questions head on. The fact is you don't like my responses.

20 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

For the umpteenth time, complete and utter nonsense. It certainly is a load of crap, Barra.

 

You restate that most of the illegal immigrants are young men of fighting age. And? You consider that to be sufficient proof that they are about to cause havoc on the streets of the UK?

 

Numbers of refugees? In the year to September 2024, 62,089 people were granted refugee status in the UK.

 

As for deflection or whataboutism, more absolute nonsense. I've addressed your questions head on. The fact is you don't like my responses.

 It’s all about democracy,or is it.

 

https://www.facebook.com/reel/736224982414550?fs=e&fs=e

A 20 year old so should know how to behave himself.

 

Your wasting your time Geoff I provided video evidence to Ray stating most illegals arriving are young fighting age as stated with other videos saying the same and we don't know who we are letting in. We have evidence some not all but some commit sex crimes the latest in Essex was an attack on a Schoolgirl.  Yet Ray keeps coming up with excusses. i have shown him Muslims attacking the police mob handed again he ignores it so your wasting your time trying to defend yourself.

2 hours ago, RayC said:

 

What's your point?

 

I was just agreeing with you.

 

Just can't please some folk.

23 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Your wasting your time Geoff I provided video evidence to Ray stating most illegals arriving are young fighting age as stated with other videos saying the same and we don't know who we are letting in. We have evidence some not all but some commit sex crimes the latest in Essex was an attack on a Schoolgirl.  Yet Ray keeps coming up with excusses. i have shown him Muslims attacking the police mob handed again he ignores it so your wasting your time trying to defend yourself.

As long as these cases keep coming then I will keep posting them. Is it true to say that on the whole are British people totally p155ed off with this yet, I don't know. They are certainly p155ed off with do nothing politicians. Problems in the future they will look back to now and ask why the authorities did f*** all.. In the case I posted the judge said that the 20 year old did not have a fully developed brain. I thought that that the legal age for knowing right from wrong was 10. Unless you are an under developed migrant.

9 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

most are not actually coming from Afghanistan, but Pakistan

Well, your knowledge of history is limited and your ability to read and understand is questionable.

Those refugees you're referring to were indeed sleeping the Taliban in Afghanistan out of different reasons.

So, not being able to return to Afghanistan unless going to be killed, and not being integrated into Pakistan society, they decided to leave looking for a better life for their children.

Putting yourself into their shoes they will be hardly nobody who would decide different.

The rest about other countries in Africa is simply RUBBISH.

3 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

Well, your knowledge of history is limited and your ability to read and understand is questionable.

Those refugees you're referring to were indeed sleeping the Taliban in Afghanistan out of different reasons.

So, not being able to return to Afghanistan unless going to be killed, and not being integrated into Pakistan society, they decided to leave looking for a better life for their children.

Putting yourself into their shoes they will be hardly nobody who would decide different.

The rest about other countries in Africa is simply RUBBISH.

 

You initially stated that the influx of unauthorized boat migrants was attributable to the UK bombing of their home nations.

Despite it being  explained to you that the UK  was not bombing their home  countries, you are  fixating upon single group of boart migrants to support your blame the UK argument. 

 

No matter how much you wish to try and transform the unauthorized entry of economic migrants into the UK as a heroic struggle against the Taliban, you are still wrong.  The demographics of the migrants does not support your emotional tale. The Taliban has been in official control  of Afghanistan (the fall of  Kabul)  for almost 4 years (August 2021). It has been in de facto control of much of the country since 2019, approx. 6 years. Since 1/1/2025 to date, there have been  approx. 5780 unauthorized migrants from Afghanistan who have arrived by boat. They are overwhelmingly male, unmarried, and aged between the ages of 18 and 25.  So much for your claim of their seeking a better life for their children.  If your tale of woe was plausible the migrants would have between the ages of 12 and 21, when  the Taliban took control of Afghanistan. It is doubtful they were the directly involved in the war. They usually belong to one of the  feuding tribal factions, which has nothing to do with the UK. These factions  have been killing each other for centuries. Even in the Pashtun tribal areas, there are feuding clans and families.

 

You claim my comments on the  African migrants is rubbish. It is you who claimed the Africans were   going to the UK because of the UK bombing of their nations. The UK has no involvement in the economic mess that is  the source of the boat migrants. Eritrea, Sudan, Somalia and Egypt have not bombed by the UK. Nor has Cote d'Ivoire, Gambia, Ghana, Gambia, Chad and others.  You are not convincing anyone with your blaming the victim, the UK. The boat crossers are economic migrants seeking to  exploit the generosity of the UK. If they were legitimate refugees they could easily declare themselves as refugees as soon as they  set foot in the EU.

 

 

20 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

You initially stated that the influx of unauthorized boat migrants was attributable to the UK bombing of their home nations.

Despite it being  explained to you that the UK  was not bombing their home  countries, you are  fixating upon single group of boart migrants to support your blame the UK argument. 

 

No matter how much you wish to try and transform the unauthorized entry of economic migrants into the UK as a heroic struggle against the Taliban, you are still wrong.  The demographics of the migrants does not support your emotional tale. The Taliban has been in official control  of Afghanistan (the fall of  Kabul)  for almost 4 years (August 2021). It has been in de facto control of much of the country since 2019, approx. 6 years. Since 1/1/2025 to date, there have been  approx. 5780 unauthorized migrants from Afghanistan who have arrived by boat. They are overwhelmingly male, unmarried, and aged between the ages of 18 and 25.  So much for your claim of their seeking a better life for their children.  If your tale of woe was plausible the migrants would have between the ages of 12 and 21, when  the Taliban took control of Afghanistan. It is doubtful they were the directly involved in the war. They usually belong to one of the  feuding tribal factions, which has nothing to do with the UK. These factions  have been killing each other for centuries. Even in the Pashtun tribal areas, there are feuding clans and families.

 

You claim my comments on the  African migrants is rubbish. It is you who claimed the Africans were   going to the UK because of the UK bombing of their nations. The UK has no involvement in the economic mess that is  the source of the boat migrants. Eritrea, Sudan, Somalia and Egypt have not bombed by the UK. Nor has Cote d'Ivoire, Gambia, Ghana, Gambia, Chad and others.  You are not convincing anyone with your blaming the victim, the UK. The boat crossers are economic migrants seeking to  exploit the generosity of the UK. If they were legitimate refugees they could easily declare themselves as refugees as soon as they  set foot in the EU.

 

 

You fixed yourself on Afghanistan and then mentioned out of a sudden some African countries as Chad, Gambia, and others related to Afghanistan? What a rubbish.

Of course Britains were bombing Afghanistan !!! Do you need medical help? Or a shrink? Tell me!

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

Of course Britains were bombing Afghanistan

 

How about 

 

* Vietnam

 

* Albania

 

* Pakistan

 

* India

 

* Iran

 

* Eritrea

 

* Syria.

 

When was the UK bombing them ?

10 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

 

How about 

 

* Vietnam

 

* Albania

 

* Pakistan

 

* India

 

* Iran

 

* Eritrea

 

* Syria.

 

When was the UK bombing them ?

???? Maybe a shrink can help you???

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