6 minutes ago, connda said:

Democrats: "These are just law-abiding young men who want to live the America Dream.

That’s what’s known as a Strawman.

 

Democrats want the law and the Constitution to apply to everyone.

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

That’s what’s known as a Strawman.

 

Democrats want the law and the Constitution to apply to everyone.

Bull, the Democrats are and will do anything possible to undermine trump from doing what the people voted him in for.

Like taking taxing tax payer funded flights to el salvador to cosy up to a deported gang member in order to use him politically against trumps deputation policy

33 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Thats pure bull from the msm.

 

You didnt say Jack when Obama did the same so you have zero credibility  now

Now that you mention Obama, ICE claims there were more illegals deported under Obama than Trump. Look this up in the conservative New York Post. This might prick your Trump's obsession bubble. Your man has delivered nothing in last 6 months. Fat zero. 

54 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Like this perhaps:

At least these guys do not pretend they are normal.

 

 

42 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

That’s what’s known as a Strawman.

 

Democrats want the law and the Constitution to apply to everyone.

Illegal. This is something that is against the law is it not? If someone is in the country illegally then surely they have broken the law. Arrest and deportation is how that law is enforced. Same as it is here in Thailand. Same in Australia. I'm sure the list of countries where this is the same would be extensive. 

25 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Now that you mention Obama, ICE claims there were more illegals deported under Obama than Trump. Look this up in the conservative New York Post. This might prick your Trump's obsession bubble. Your man has delivered nothing in last 6 months. Fat zero. 

How are border corssings since 20th Jan 25?

10 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

How are border corssings since 20th Jan 25?

Cost billions in trade and creating chaos for citizens who cross daily. Political fallout for Trump as majority dissapprove of his handling of immigration. 

2 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Cost billions in trade and creating chaos for citizens who cross daily. Political fallout for Trump as majority dissapprove of his handling of immigration. 

Majority libtards that didnt for him anyway... 

Costing billions in trade... yeah right.

Have another suck on that lemon

23 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Majority libtards that didnt for him anyway... 

Costing billions in trade... yeah right.

Have another suck on that lemon

Frankie not handling the daily deluge of Trump's failures well. Have a lemon on me 😄

13 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Frankie not handling the daily deluge of Trump's failures well. Have a lemon on me 😄

Days just fine for me, its you guys that are living in perpetual turmoil over the orange leader.

 

There isnt a day goes by without 5 or 6 threads crying about him, its been like it for almost a decade

3 hours ago, KhaoHom said:

 

That would be Gaza...

Concentration camps: The are lots of similarities between Israeli & US police actions. US police forces send people to train in Israel.

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

Mostly illegals I'd imagine.

Understood ... in your imagination. Fact is most supported the idea of deporting the criminals, including gang members and those involved in drugs, violence. The sad way in the approach of indiscriminate sweeps has turned the majority to oppose the WAY in which trump is handling the immigration actions.

A CNN report. 'Nuff said.

9 minutes ago, Wrwest said:

Understood ... in your imagination. Fact is most supported the idea of deporting the criminals, including gang members and those involved in drugs, violence. The sad way in the approach of indiscriminate sweeps has turned the majority to oppose the WAY in which trump is handling the immigration actions.

 

All illegals are criminals by definiton.

 

Most countries deport or jail illegals. It's perfectly normal. Obama did more than his fair share as well but Liberals like to forget that. 

His policies/actions have been in opposition of US ideals. history. Irony is that he had the (if dangerous) support had he shown studied, reasoned steps to reduce the size and scope of the federal government. Address immigration and economic reforms. Due to the "bull in the china shop" approach he will continue to loose support and may well result in a backlash undoing most  of his policies/actions. He never was the person competent to address the justified frustration/anger within the American working middle class, he just gave voice to that and used it for his personal benefit.

2 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Now that you mention Obama, ICE claims there were more illegals deported under Obama than Trump. Look this up in the conservative New York Post. This might prick your Trump's obsession bubble. Your man has delivered nothing in last 6 months. Fat zero. 

Help me understand your viewpoint, Eric: 

1. So Obama deported more illegals than Trump. Ok, I have to assume we're comparing with Trumps first term, otherwise a bit unfair after 6 months, but nothing would surprise me. 

2. If it was fine for Obama, why all the media angst when Trump does it?

3. Your Fat zero is a little excessive isn't it? But I'm getting used to lefties using the language to extremes, e.g. genocide

Trump's Deportation Drama: Polls Reveal Public Backlash  

 

Are the 60+% people against  the deportation . 

Fine Go tell DT if the people are against that that they will look after them and pay for whatever they want/need from Their money and Not the Taxpayers money.

 

Roosevelt Hotel NYC before sanctuary city and being a sanctuary city: 

 

7 hours ago, KhaoHom said:

 

Just more lies. What an absolute laugh. A discredit to the forum and the OP.

 

These from leftist rags...

 

Today

https://thehill.com/homenews/5400310-harvard-caps-harris-poll-trump-immigration/

 

Today

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/poll-shows-support-for-immigration-is-rising-in-us-amid-president-trumps-crackdown/ar-AA1IxEBi

 

4 days old

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/11/us/immigration-poll-trump.html

 

4 days old

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/11/trump-immigration-crackdown-poll-00448342

 

 

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks Mate,
 

As the real old time reporters would say, “And now you know the rest of the story”.

Paul Harvey 

7 hours ago, JAG said:

 

 

Mind you, if there is a drop in recorded violent crime, could it be that it is because many of the usual perpetrators are attracted to joining the swelling masked ranks of ICE?🤔

 

No mate. It's coz they got sent back home.

 

come on... is this a surprise to anyone? he was always crystal clear about his attitude to illegal, and other, immigrants, how is anyone surprised about what's going on. yes, it's awful, but hey, you americans voted him in, if this is a surprise to you then you really weren't paying attention.

6 hours ago, frank83628 said:

Thats pure bull from the msm.

 

You didnt say Jack when Obama did the same so you have zero credibility  now

And what about your credibility, buddy, as you desperately defend Trump while at the same time being as self-confessed Putin supporter. Can you guess what your credibility is comparable to?😄

3 hours ago, Donga said:

Help me understand your viewpoint, Eric: 

1. So Obama deported more illegals than Trump. Ok, I have to assume we're comparing with Trumps first term, otherwise a bit unfair after 6 months, but nothing would surprise me. 

2. If it was fine for Obama, why all the media angst when Trump does it?

3. Your Fat zero is a little excessive isn't it? But I'm getting used to lefties using the language to extremes, e.g. genocide

 

My viewpoint is that deportation has been policies of previous Presidents and can be done within the parameters of the law and constitution and should not creat havoc on the economy. Trump's mass deportation using the Alien Enemies Act is illegal and is chaotic with summary arrest and detention without due process and a dent to the economy. 

 

Can you mention any of his major domestic and foreign policies that are delivered successfully? I like to learn from you. 

Must admit I am not an expert on this topic, but is it not true that a large percentage of farm workers are illegal immigrants.Therefore who is going to replace them if US nationals can't fill the void.

6 minutes ago, Anthony mellows said:

Must admit I am not an expert on this topic, but is it not true that a large percentage of farm workers are illegal immigrants.Therefore who is going to replace them if US nationals can't fill the void.

The Secretary of Agriculture said the void will be filled by Americans  I guess that's the rubbish you will hear from an official without experience in agriculture. She was an attorney. 

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

 

My viewpoint is that deportation has been policies of previous Presidents and can be done within the parameters of the law and constitution and should not creat havoc on the economy. Trump's mass deportation using the Alien Enemies Act is illegal and is chaotic with summary arrest and detention without due process and a dent to the economy. 

 

Can you mention any of his major domestic and foreign policies that are delivered successfully? I like to learn from you. 

I think you and many others should just google "Deporter-in-Chief" Obama AND Clinton were known to deport the most and there was ZERO due process! There also seemed to be no " polls" to complain about them either. Here's just part of a quote:

 

• It's important to note that a significant portion of these removals, roughly 74% on average throughout Obama's tenure, were carried out through summary procedures like expedited removal and reinstatement of removal, meaning the individuals did not have a hearing before an immigration judge. 

And this is surprising?

 

Many Americans are now realising that Trump's deportations (from farm labourers, etc. up to medical professionals, scientists and academics) is having an adverse impact on their daily lives.

 

The moronic MAGA minority is just that, a minority, not a majority voice.  Trump's revolution is destroying the USA.

 

Of course, the MAGA supporters here will violently disagree.

15 hours ago, alex8912 said:

I think you and many others should just google "Deporter-in-Chief" Obama AND Clinton were known to deport the most and there was ZERO due process! There also seemed to be no " polls" to complain about them either. Here's just part of a quote:

 

 

• It's important to note that a significant portion of these removals, roughly 74% on average throughout Obama's tenure, were carried out through summary procedures like expedited removal and reinstatement of removal, meaning the individuals did not have a hearing before an immigration judge. 

 

 

Obama administration had detailed enforcement policies with strict hierarchy. There were proper guidelines on who among the unauthorized immigrants that will be protected from enforcement. Trump policies were vague and governed by overarching principle that no group of immigrants were exempted or excluded from enforcement. 

 

There were strict adherence to policies by ICE agents and use of prosecutorial discretion. ICE under Kristi Noem had wider latitude and little guidance or oversight. 

 

There were no polls, protests or disruption to the economy with Obama's deportation policy because of good leadership. 

 

On 7/15/2025 at 1:05 PM, JonnyF said:

 

All illegals are criminals by definiton.

 

Most countries deport or jail illegals. It's perfectly normal. Obama did more than his fair share as well but Liberals like to forget that. 

Oh, I agree Obama deported more. In fact the documented statistics seem to indicate that the arbitrary and capricious quotas set by trump are not being met. Then again we did not have the chaos caused by the current policies/actions. seems there was a different approach? As to using that broad brush to paint all undocumented immigrants, those having had their promise of protected status revoked in order to get the quotes filled ... nice try. There is a reason trump has lost citizen support due to not going after the real criminals and leaving those seeking asylum or a better life out of the current sweeps. Thus the just introduced bipartisan Bill to allow those "criminal" immigrants (trump definition you state supporting) to remain and not be subject to deportation. Kind of screws up the "they are all criminals" stance.