4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It belongs to the Palestinians.

 

Which is probably why you edited out the ethnic cleaning part of my post together with the link I provided.

 

   Palestinians can sell the land , then it wont belong to them anymore 

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Palestinians can sell the land , then it wont belong to them anymore 

To be fair it is after sundown.

42 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

To be fair it is after sundown.

Not in Tel Aviv.

10 hours ago, ChristineC said:

This happened daily for weeks. Thanks for starting to report it.

85 according to others. One wonders why his news has been suppressed.

https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-07-20-2025-2b494af89d710793bc6933f5ae437566

So Christine, it seems you blithely ignored the 85 page report with 283 references of Hamas using human shields that I sent you.

What do make of this then, from the newspaper of the Palestinian Authority - trust you know who they are, you know the Palestinian leadership recognised by the United Nations. The Palestinian Authority’s newspaper Al-Hayat Al-Jadida wrote about this on June 19. Its editorial (translated by MEMRI, the Middle East Media Research Institute) stated that...

“numerous reports out of Gaza say that Hamas is killing many civilians looking for a sack of flour on the pretext that they are collaborating with the American food distribution centers!!.... Hamas has no choice but to set up death squads [to operate] against anyone who opposes its theft and tries to find a sack of flour outside its control and far from its black market... It is not only Israel that is creating this terrible reality; Hamas is complicit in this industry of death, hunting down the hungry with the death squads it calls Al-Sahm, in order to inform anyone who approaches [the distribution centers] that do not belong to Hamas that their only [fate] will be to fall victim to the arrows of the Al-Sahm Unit. This is the bitter reality: Hamas and its Al-Sahm Unit, which hunts down those who seek nothing but a crust of bread."

For more on this... https://www.cfr.org/blog/meanwhile-hamas-killing-civilians-who-seek-food

1 hour ago, Donga said:

So Christine, it seems you blithely ignored the 85 page report with 283 references of Hamas using human shields that I sent you.

What do make of this then, from the newspaper of the Palestinian Authority - trust you know who they are, you know the Palestinian leadership recognised by the United Nations. The Palestinian Authority’s newspaper Al-Hayat Al-Jadida wrote about this on June 19. Its editorial (translated by MEMRI, the Middle East Media Research Institute) stated that...

“numerous reports out of Gaza say that Hamas is killing many civilians looking for a sack of flour on the pretext that they are collaborating with the American food distribution centers!!.... Hamas has no choice but to set up death squads [to operate] against anyone who opposes its theft and tries to find a sack of flour outside its control and far from its black market... It is not only Israel that is creating this terrible reality; Hamas is complicit in this industry of death, hunting down the hungry with the death squads it calls Al-Sahm, in order to inform anyone who approaches [the distribution centers] that do not belong to Hamas that their only [fate] will be to fall victim to the arrows of the Al-Sahm Unit. This is the bitter reality: Hamas and its Al-Sahm Unit, which hunts down those who seek nothing but a crust of bread."

For more on this... https://www.cfr.org/blog/meanwhile-hamas-killing-civilians-who-seek-food

An article by this guy who wrote "How Jews Can Survive in a Christian America"

   https://www.amazon.com/Faith-Fear-Survive-Christian-America/dp/0684871041 How Jews Can Survive in a Christian America

 

The lines after that - 

Col. Richard Kemp, a retired British officer, told The Jerusalem Post

 

In 2015, Kemp received an award from the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland for his advocacy.

He’s been warmly welcomed by Israeli political and military leaders, including former Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

He has spoken at synagogues, Jewish community events, and pro-Israel rallies around the world, often wearing a kippah in solidarity.  

 

Lol, I'll give that document a miss, but nice try.

UK and 24 nations  mainly European plus Australia, Canada, New Zealand and Japan but surprise surprise not the USA accuse Israel of 'drip feeding' aid to Gaza civilians as they condemn 'horrifying' killings

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cvg9ky87dpdt

Most of these  figures are unverified , many palestinians  are being attacked by HAMAS  and driven at the Israeli outposts     ,,, but the gullible woke  west believes anything Muslims tell them ,, The Israelis are not innocent either    but they were the ones attacked by  Islamist rapists  ...  we are now facing the prospect of the same scenario in UK  and Europe ,,, 

8 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   You have been warned on other threads .

You have been told to stop labeling people as Jews

If you continue, you are likely to get another ban from here .

You have been warned .

 

 

It would have been more appropriate to use the word Zionist, since many Jews, a term which traditionally means one of the Jewish faith (i.e. belief in the Torah) are supportive of the Palestinian people.  Truer of those living outside Israel.

 

However as she refers to "a bigoted, far-right Jew, who post[s] vile Islamop[hob]ic trash daily" it should be fairly clear the reference is to a Zionist.

 

Those who have studied at all the history of Zionism will be aware that in the early days in Germany the Zionists sought to persuade those of the Jewish faith to abandon their religion and everything else that differentiated them from German culture.

It did not work out of course, and they subsequently discovered that the religion, suitably distorted, could be turned into a useful tool of persuasion.

 

9 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Israel continues to stray very far from the lessons they should have learned during the Holocaust. 

 

The lesson Jews learned during the Holocaust was that Jews have to protect themselves and can't rely on nations or other people to save them from genocide.  The only way to give Jews the best possible chance for survival was to create a militarily strong sovereign Jewish state.  From the day Israel was founded in May, 1948,  Israelis have fought against enormous odds for their lives and  the life of their homeland. 

Jews learned their lesson about survival very well.  Palestinians and their supporters have to realize that for Jews,  never again is now.

 

10 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

What else can be explained by the over 60,2000 people reported killed in the Gaza war which include jorunalists, media workers, academics and humantarian aid workers.

 

The 60,200 deaths in Gaza can be explained by:

• Hamas hiding armed fighters among the civilians of Gaza, which causes those civilians to lose their protected non-belligerent status under the rules of war.
• using hospitals, mosques, schools and other civilian structures as depots and firing points for missiles and other weapons.
• building military command centers in or underneath civilian buildings.
• disguising Hamas members as journalists  and having Hamas members join international humanitarian groups as aid workers.
• using women and children as spotters for military missile and artillery attacks.
• launching an attack that killed 725 Israeli civilians and 71 foreigners, including 364 victims at the Supernova music festival.  The attack had no military goal but was intended  only to kill as many people as possible.
• taking 251 people hostage and holding them under inhuman conditions.
• raping women as well as mutilating and despoiling victims' corpses, then dragging the corpses through the streets of Gaza as Gazans cheered.
• Hamas killing any Gazan who opposes or even criticizes Hamas' policies.
• refusing to recognize the right of Israel to exist as a sovereign Jewish state, which makes a permanent peace settlement impossible.  Destroying Hamas is Israel's only option to guarantee the security of it people.

 

 

RUSSELS (Reuters) -Belgium's King Philippe described abuses in Gaza as a "disgrace to humanity" in a speech on the eve of Monday's national day, unusually direct remarks on international affairs from a monarch who traditionally avoids public politics.

 

"I add my voice to all those who denounce the serious humanitarian abuses in Gaza, where innocent people are dying of hunger and being killed by bombs while trapped in their enclaves," he said speaking at his palace in Brussels.

 

"The current situation has gone on for far too long. It is a disgrace to all of humanity. We support the call by the United Nations Secretary-General to immediately end this unbearable crisis."

 

Belgian king denounces Gaza abuses in unusually direct remarks

25 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

 

The lesson Jews learned during the Holocaust was that Jews have to protect themselves and can't rely on nations or other people to save them from genocide.  The only way to give Jews the best possible chance for survival was to create a militarily strong sovereign Jewish state.  From the day Israel was founded in May, 1948,  Israelis have fought against enormous odds for their lives and  the life of their homeland. 

Jews learned their lesson about survival very well.  Palestinians and their supporters have to realize that for Jews,  never again is now.

 

 

The 60,200 deaths in Gaza can be explained by:

• Hamas hiding armed fighters among the civilians of Gaza, which causes those civilians to lose their protected non-belligerent status under the rules of war.
• using hospitals, mosques, schools and other civilian structures as depots and firing points for missiles and other weapons.
• building military command centers in or underneath civilian buildings.
• disguising Hamas members as journalists  and having Hamas members join international humanitarian groups as aid workers.
• using women and children as spotters for military missile and artillery attacks.
• launching an attack that killed 725 Israeli civilians and 71 foreigners, including 364 victims at the Supernova music festival.  The attack had no military goal but was intended  only to kill as many people as possible.
• taking 251 people hostage and holding them under inhuman conditions.
• raping women as well as mutilating and despoiling victims' corpses, then dragging the corpses through the streets of Gaza as Gazans cheered.
• Hamas killing any Gazan who opposes or even criticizes Hamas' policies.
• refusing to recognize the right of Israel to exist as a sovereign Jewish state, which makes a permanent peace settlement impossible.  Destroying Hamas is Israel's only option to guarantee the security of it people.

 

 

Under international law belligerents have to protect non combatants. An Israeli ambassador argues Israel operates on the ration of one combatant killed plus one non combatant is acceptable.

But the number of women and children killed is almost 70% of the casualties, plus Israel's policy of a food, water  and medicinal blockade means the young and the old are particularly affected, prone to malnutrition and eventually death. 

 

In recent weeks, two significant developments have dominated the news from Gaza. One is the daily deadly violence surrounding the operations of the new Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF), a highly controversial Israeli- and US-backed initiative to replace the United Nations-led system of delivering aid to what has been called the “hungriest place on earth.” The second, related, development is the widespread hunger and even starvation of Gaza’s 2.1 million people.

 

This crisis, ongoing since 2024 and made even more severe by Israel’s March-May 2025 total blockade on food, fuel, water, medicine, and other humanitarian supplies into the ravaged coastal enclave, has unfolded against the backdrop of Israel’s 21-month-long military campaign in Gaza. Far from being a “humanitarian response operation” to address the forced starvation of Gazans, GHF’s food distribution since its late May 2025 launch has been humiliating, totally inadequate to the scale of the crisis—and, most alarming, deadly.

 

The widespread killings are unprecedented in an aid-delivery context, even in a war zone. The specter of starving civilians walking long distances, often through active combat zones, trying to reach the few GHF hubs only to be shot by Israeli troops is a daily recurrence. Some of GHF’s American contractors reportedly also have used live ammunition against Gazans trying to reach food handouts. Indeed, Philippe Lazzarini, UNRWA commissioner-general, called GHF a “death trap.”

Israel has badly damaged or destroyed residential buildings, entire neighborhoods, public institutions, and basic infrastructure across the entire Gaza Strip.

 

Some ninety percent of the Gaza population has been forcibly displaced, often multiple times. All this created a humanitarian catastrophe that has left Gaza, in the words of the International Committee of the Red Cross, as “hell on earth.”

 

Israel aims to forcibly displace—through massive aerial bombardment, intensive ground offensive, and repeated evacuation orders—the entire Gazan population and concentrate Gazans into three small “humanitarian zones” in the remaining 25 percent of the Strip. On May 5, 2025, Israel launched a major military operation, dubbed “Gideon’s Chariots,” to execute its strategy.

 

Israel is using intensified airstrikes and ground operations across the Gaza Strip; expanding the security buffer zone inside Gaza by razing all existing structures and forcing the population to relocate; and taking direct control of food aid distribution in Gaza through the use of armed private contractors—hence GHF.

 

In July 2025, a new WFP assessment found that nearly one in three people in Gaza was not eating for days at a time.

Meanwhile, Gaza’s capacity to domestically produce food has been nearly destroyed by the war. An April 2025 assessment by the FAO and the UN Satellite Center found that less than 5 percent of the Gaza Strip’s cropland area remains available for cultivation.

 

There are at least three reasons to doubt that Israel will achieve its goals. First, as described earlier, Israel’s attempt to control humanitarian aid to Gaza has turned its sponsored-GHF distribution sites into killing fields. Second, Israel’s intent to facilitate “voluntary emigration” (a euphemism for expulsion) from Gaza to other countries has, so far, found no takers willing to receive displaced Gazans. Third and most important, the Israeli military plan to confine 2.1 million people within 25 percent of the enclave’s land, thus increasing the pre-war population density (already one of the highest in the world) fourfold, from about 6,000 to 24,000 people per square kilometer (0.39 square mile), is spatially inconceivable. 

 

https://share.google/e4WnhSBWLsDfX2gRx

16 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

Yeah, the Hamas asked the Israelis to kill their mothers, sisters, or children.

I wish I could send you there mingled with the Palestinians 😡

Did you graduate from high school?

10 minutes ago, koolkarl said:

Did you graduate from high school?

Are you still in kindergarten?

20 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

Israel is very good in continuing the genocidal war against Palestinians.

They act like bloodthirsty feral

 

18 hours ago, koolkarl said:

Hamas still refuses to release all hostages and disarm and they couldn't care less about their own fellow muslims.  They use media propaganda as one tool and it can be seen here the gullible have been sucked in.  Hamas is 100% at fault for civilian casualties.  

Feeling guilty about what your people are doing now so trying to deny it and blame Hamas, shame shame shame.

17 hours ago, billd766 said:

IMHO the Israeli's and the IDF deliberately supress, deny or divert the news so that they look like the good guys. That is just 1 reason why  they will NOT allow ANY foreign news agencies anywhere near Gaza.

 

But the news gets out anyway.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g814gy2e7o

 

Try reading the entire link.

 

However there are posters on ANN who will not bother to read it as they only believe in Israeli propaganda and anything which criticises Israel is, according to them, anti-sematic.

 

The genocide is happening just so that Bibi can cling to power and avoid his well-deserved and long overdue reckoning. Israel is clearly a rogue state and needs to be treated accordingly.

1 minute ago, Summerinsiam said:

The genocide is happening just so that Bibi can cling to power and avoid his well-deserved and long overdue reckoning. Israel is clearly a rogue state and needs to be treated accordingly.

Bibi is been encouraged by Trump's shifting policies. He repeatedly pledge to end the war and then change his mind to endorse a complete takeover of Gaza saying Palestines should be permanently displaced. Trump keep providing substantial financial and military aids weapons to Israel. He has the power and influence to bring an end to this slaughter of innocents. Majority in US dissapprove of Israeli action in Gaza. Bibi seem to have the leash on Trump and Trump is too weak against strong man Bibi and also Putin and Kim.  

At least 60 people are killed as Israeli forces continue to pound Gaza a day after killing at least 115 Palestinians, including 79 aid seekers at the Zikim crossing and 13 others at GHF-run sites.

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2025/7/21/live-israel-pounds-gaza-as-palestinians-mourn-aid-seekers-killed-at-zikim?update=3848943

17 hours ago, ChristineC said:

Deflecting the links.

 

Theres nothing wrong with being Jewish, don’t be so paranoid, it’s relevant to your vile support and no sympathy for the 870 babies under 1 killed by the IDF since Oct 7. If I was Muslim and supporting Hama, you’d mention it. 
 

Did you read the links?

The Hamas figures are lower than the truth.

His problem id that if the news does not come from the Israeli propaganda machine, (aka the Israeli government or the IDF), he cannot or will not believe it, as it is fake news from the Hamas propaganda machine.

 

No matter that the UN or the rest of the world believes those figures, it is still fake news for him.

3 minutes ago, billd766 said:

His problem id that if the news does not come from the Israeli propaganda machine, (aka the Israeli government or the IDF), he cannot or will not believe it, as it is fake news from the Hamas propaganda machine.

 

No matter that the UN or the rest of the world believes those figures, it is still fake news for him.

Moral dilemma for a Jew, but more and more are turning against Israel.

13 hours ago, ChristineC said:

An article by this guy who wrote "How Jews Can Survive in a Christian America"

   https://www.amazon.com/Faith-Fear-Survive-Christian-America/dp/0684871041 How Jews Can Survive in a Christian America

 

The lines after that - 

Col. Richard Kemp, a retired British officer, told The Jerusalem Post

 

In 2015, Kemp received an award from the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland for his advocacy.

He’s been warmly welcomed by Israeli political and military leaders, including former Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

He has spoken at synagogues, Jewish community events, and pro-Israel rallies around the world, often wearing a kippah in solidarity.  

 

Lol, I'll give that document a miss, but nice try.

Amazing!

You ignore a quote from the Palestine Authority media, because it happens to be in a report written by a Zionist.

Yet you believe the media that daily parrots the drivel coming from Hamas.

So, essentially you support a Jihadist terrorist organisation, who deliberately use Gazans as human shields.

Be interested to know what you think the end game will be - Hamas to stay in control of Gaza? Iran to rule Middle East?

Funny/sad when naive westerners - assume you identify as Western civilization, even if guilt ridden - see someone wearing a kippah as bad, but cheer on a smug looking leftie, wrapped in a keffiyeh. Way to go lol

3 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Bibi is been encouraged by Trump's shifting policies. He repeatedly pledge to end the war and then change his mind to endorse a complete takeover of Gaza saying Palestines should be permanently displaced. Trump keep providing substantial financial and military aids weapons to Israel. He has the power and influence to bring an end to this slaughter of innocents. Majority in US dissapprove of Israeli action in Gaza. Bibi seem to have the leash on Trump and Trump is too weak against strong man Bibi and also Putin and Kim.  

Trump if he had the balls could end it right now, he to use his own words holds all the cards unlike with Putin who plays him like the fool he is.

 

Trump should hang his head in shame but then Trump has no shame no honour he’s an utter disgrace.

 

Trump is a greedy narcissist I cant think of anyone less suited to be president of anything  let alone the USA, his only aim is to make himself the centre of attraction whilst at the same time making as much money for himself as possible no matter who it hurts economically physically or mentally whether that be individuals communities countries or even the USA.

6 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

Are you still in kindergarten?

I was right.

1 minute ago, koolkarl said:

I was right.

You feel well there, yeah

5 hours ago, ChristineC said:

Feeling guilty about what your people are doing now so trying to deny it and blame Hamas, shame shame shame.

First, they are not my people.  Second if you are an infidel, you should be extremely concerned and thank Israel. 

1 minute ago, newbee2022 said:

You feel well there, yeah

And you are unemployable since you are always online.

3 hours ago, Donga said:

Amazing!

You ignore a quote from the Palestine Authority media, because it happens to be in a report written by a Zionist.

Yet you believe the media that daily parrots the drivel coming from Hamas.

So, essentially you support a Jihadist terrorist organisation, who deliberately use Gazans as human shields.

Be interested to know what you think the end game will be - Hamas to stay in control of Gaza? Iran to rule Middle East?

Funny/sad when naive westerners - assume you identify as Western civilization, even if guilt ridden - see someone wearing a kippah as bad, but cheer on a smug looking leftie, wrapped in a keffiyeh. Way to go lol

I never ignored anything from PA media. What media do you mean?

I never read your nonsense from Council on  Foreign Affairs due reason give, yet you say nothing about out it. Why.

I support a Palestinian state and all who have been living or born in a concentration camp, most of whom are children.

End game, Iran comes out the winners, and China. losers Israel and US, who will become pariahs.

Who are you or I to say what Palestinians should choose or do, Israel and US have been holding them prisoners, or in Aparheid for decades.

i listen to Jimmy Carter, my hero.

 

5 hours ago, billd766 said:

His problem id that if the news does not come from the Israeli propaganda machine, (aka the Israeli government or the IDF), he cannot or will not believe it, as it is fake news from the Hamas propaganda machine.

 

No matter that the UN or the rest of the world believes those figures, it is still fake news for him.

Brainwashed.