Obama referred for criminal prosecution

[SunnyinBangrak]

25 minutes ago, candide said:

Suuure...

 

The Committee found that Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the Russian effort to hack computer networks and accounts affiliated with the Democratic Party and leak information damaging to Hillary Clinton and her campaign for president,”

 

“Moscow’s intent was to harm the Clinton Campaign, tarnish an expected Clinton presidential administration, help the Trump Campaign after Trump became the presumptive Republican nominee, and undermine the U.S. democratic process.”

 

Report of the Select Committee on Intelligence United States Senate on Russian Active Measures Campaigns and Interference in the 2016 U.S. Election

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/2020/08/18/publications-report-select-committee-intelligence-united-states-senate-russian-active-measures/

 

Are you really going back years to when the EVIDENCE was still being suppressed to try backing up why you were so wrong on this hoax? Dumb or dishonest are the only possibilities if so.

Much has happened in the last 5 years fella. Inform yourself on new developments.

[candide]

45 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Are you really going back years to when the EVIDENCE was still being suppressed to try backing up why you were so wrong on this hoax? Dumb or dishonest are the only possibilities if so.

Much has happened in the last 5 years fella. Inform yourself on new developments.

GOP-led Senate Intelligence Committee report. It has not been contradicted by the documents touted by Gabbard, etc...

 

BTW, the 'new' evidence you are referring to is from 2016/17. The Senate report is from 2020, published after additional investigations made and additional testimonies collected. 

[SunnyinBangrak]

8 minutes ago, candide said:

GOP-led Senate Intelligence Committee report. It has not been contradicted by the documents touted by Gabbard, etc...

 

BTW, the 'new' evidence you are referring to is from 2016/17. The Senate report is from 2020, published after additional investigations made and testimonies collected. 

So, for the record. Please answer theblether's excellent questions so we know exactly where Russia collusion believers like yourself stand for future ref

 

 

I am so sick and tired of Democrats claiming there is no “there” there with respect to Russiagate. If you are such a Democrat, please take the following quiz (and if you have friends or family who are Democrats, please share):

 

1. Was the "Steele Dossier” a fabrication designed to smear Donald Trump? Yes or no please.

 

2. Did the original draft of the 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment (the “ICA”) state that Russia did not seek to assist Donald Trump in the 2016 election? Yes or no please.

 

3. Did Barack Obama then direct, using non-standard procedures that cut out the usual intelligence experts at the ground floor who make such assessments, that the ICA be changed to state that Russia DID seek to assist Donald Trump in the 2016 election? Yes or no please.

 

4. Were the Steele Dossier and the modified ICA used to obtain numerous search warrants against Trump’s inner circle? Yes or no please.

 

5. Were the Steele Dossier and the modified ICA used as the bases for initiating the Mueller Investigation? Yes or no please. 6. Did all of the above (i) cause much of the general public to believe the first Trump Presidency was illegitimate and (ii) greatly reduce the first Trump Administration’s ability to enact the agenda that the Constitutional will of the American electorate elected him to achieve?

 

Yes or no please, on both counts. _____________________________ Finished? Did you answer “no” to any of these question? If so, you have been brainwashed by your media sources. A simple review of the materials recently declassified by DNI Gabbard, coupled with general knowledge of the political climate since 2016, will reveal that all of the above questions can only be answered “yes.” Go review those materials and then re-take the quiz.

 

And if you DID answer “yes” to all questions above, how can you deny that Russiagate constitutes the worst series of political crimes in US history? And if you do deny that, how can you look at yourself in the mirror?

[candide]

54 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

So, for the record. Please answer theblether's excellent questions so we know exactly where Russia collusion believers like yourself stand for future ref

 

 

I am so sick and tired of Democrats claiming there is no “there” there with respect to Russiagate. If you are such a Democrat, please take the following quiz (and if you have friends or family who are Democrats, please share):

 

1. Was the "Steele Dossier” a fabrication designed to smear Donald Trump? Yes or no please.

 

2. Did the original draft of the 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment (the “ICA”) state that Russia did not seek to assist Donald Trump in the 2016 election? Yes or no please.

 

3. Did Barack Obama then direct, using non-standard procedures that cut out the usual intelligence experts at the ground floor who make such assessments, that the ICA be changed to state that Russia DID seek to assist Donald Trump in the 2016 election? Yes or no please.

 

4. Were the Steele Dossier and the modified ICA used to obtain numerous search warrants against Trump’s inner circle? Yes or no please.

 

5. Were the Steele Dossier and the modified ICA used as the bases for initiating the Mueller Investigation? Yes or no please. 6. Did all of the above (i) cause much of the general public to believe the first Trump Presidency was illegitimate and (ii) greatly reduce the first Trump Administration’s ability to enact the agenda that the Constitutional will of the American electorate elected him to achieve?

 

Yes or no please, on both counts. _____________________________ Finished? Did you answer “no” to any of these question? If so, you have been brainwashed by your media sources. A simple review of the materials recently declassified by DNI Gabbard, coupled with general knowledge of the political climate since 2016, will reveal that all of the above questions can only be answered “yes.” Go review those materials and then re-take the quiz.

 

And if you DID answer “yes” to all questions above, how can you deny that Russiagate constitutes the worst series of political crimes in US history? And if you do deny that, how can you look at yourself in the mirror?

Nice try to dictate the terms of the discussion and forget about irrefutable facts....

 

As I wrote before, this is old stuff from 2016/17, before in-depth investigations occured. You can gaslight about it as much as you want, it's a non-refutable fact. The more in-depth and recent investgations are more reliable than the preliminary and older ones.

 

Subsequent investigations (Mueller, GOP-led Senate Committee) have evidenced Russian interference. So even if what MAGA propaganda is claiming happens to be true, further investigations have proven Obama's was right. 

 

As to the Steele dossier, it was opposition research, it had no official status. It was partisan research and as such, was obviously looking for information which could be used against Trump. It was not used in the text of the assessment, just added as appendix. The Steele dossier was not used in the rationale put forward in the assessment.

 

The original ICA draft did not claim Putin did not try to help Trump. It showed that there was not an agreement between different components of the Intelligence community about it. Some did, some didn't.

 

[theblether]

1 hour ago, candide said:

Suuure...

 

The Committee found that Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the Russian effort to hack computer networks and accounts affiliated with the Democratic Party and leak information damaging to Hillary Clinton and her campaign for president,”

 

“Moscow’s intent was to harm the Clinton Campaign, tarnish an expected Clinton presidential administration, help the Trump Campaign after Trump became the presumptive Republican nominee, and undermine the U.S. democratic process.”

 

Report of the Select Committee on Intelligence United States Senate on Russian Active Measures Campaigns and Interference in the 2016 U.S. Election

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/2020/08/18/publications-report-select-committee-intelligence-united-states-senate-russian-active-measures/

 

 

No one is this stupid. 

 

No one. 

[theblether]

53 minutes ago, candide said:

GOP-led Senate Intelligence Committee report. It has not been contradicted by the documents touted by Gabbard, etc...

 

BTW, the 'new' evidence you are referring to is from 2016/17. The Senate report is from 2020, published after additional investigations made and additional testimonies collected. 

 

And now known to be fake. 

[theblether]

10 minutes ago, candide said:

Nice try to dictate the terms of the discussion and forget about irrefutable facts....

 

As I wrote before, this is old stuff from 2016/17, before in-depth investigations occured. You can gaslight about it as much as you want, it's a non-refutable fact. The more in-depth and recent investgationd are more reliable than the preliminary and older ones.

 

Subsequent investigations (Mueller, GOP-led Senate Committee) have evidenced Russian interference. So even if what MAGA propaganda is claiming happens to be true, further investigations have proven Obama's was right. 

 

As to the Steele dossier, it was opposition research, it had no official status. It was partisan research and as such, was obviously looking for information which could be used against Trump. It was not used in the text of the assessment, just added as appendix. The Steele dossier was not used in the rationale put forward in the assessment.

 

The original ICA draft did not claim Putin did not try to help Trump. It showed that there was not an agreement between different components of the Intelligence community about it. Some did, some didn't.

 

 

Good job the coastguard intercepted those pesky Russian dolphins, eh? 

 

The amount of drivel you guys need to swallow to keep this delusion going would drown a blue whale. 

[candide]

11 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

No one is this stupid. 

 

No one. 

Blah blah....🙂

[candide]

8 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

And now known to be fake. 

 

What has been proven not to be true in the GOP-led Senate report?

 

There has been do much gaslighting that you are even not able to tell it precisely! 🤣

[candide]

5 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

Good job the coastguard intercepted those pesky Russian dolphins, eh? 

 

The amount of drivel you guys need to swallow to keep this delusion going would drown a blue whale. 

More baseless blah blah...🙂

[theblether]

2 minutes ago, candide said:

Blah blah

 

Proving my point. 

 

You need to be beyond dumb to post this drivel while the same intelligence agencies are releasing documents saying that they lied. 

 

Just staggeringly stupid. 

 

Or are you going to argue that they were telling the truth then but lying now? 

 

Please say that, that would be hilarious. 

[candide]

24 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

Proving my point. 

 

You need to be beyond dumb to post this drivel while the same intelligence agencies are releasing documents saying that they lied. 

 

Just staggeringly stupid. 

 

Or are you going to argue that they were telling the truth then but lying now? 

 

Please say that, that would be hilarious. 

Proving what you have just posted again. You are just posting lame deflections, no fact! Just blah blah!

 

What has been publicised recently is about old and preliminary investigations from 2016 (on top of being misrepresented by MAGA propaganda). The Mueller and GOP-led Senate investigations are more recent (2018 and 2020) and rely on more evidence collected. They have proven Russian interference. 🤣

 

[Hummin]

21 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

Proving my point. 

 

You need to be beyond dumb to post this drivel while the same intelligence agencies are releasing documents saying that they lied. 

 

Just staggeringly stupid. 

 

Or are you going to argue that they were telling the truth then but lying now? 

 

Please say that, that would be hilarious. 

The same intelligence that now says there is no thousands of video evidence or there is no list? 

 

Hmmm 🤔 

[candide]

1 hour ago, theblether said:

 

And now known to be fake. 

 

1 hour ago, candide said:

 

What has been proven not to be true in the GOP-led Senate report?

 

There has been do much gaslighting that you are even not able to tell it precisely! 🤣

Crickets, as expected......🙂

 

What exactly has been proven not to be true in the GOP-led Senate Committee report? 😆

 

Report of the Select Committee on Intelligence United States Senate on Russian Active Measures Campaigns and Interference in the 2016 U.S. Election

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/2020/08/18/publications-report-select-committee-intelligence-united-states-senate-russian-active-measures/

[mrwebb8825]

18 hours ago, Tug said:

Would that maga yacht club be a gaggle of googans?anyway this whole Obama distraction thing is just chum for the maggots no more no less.

wanna put money on whether or not anyone goes to prison over it? $100 says the prisons have 20 new guests in the next 2 yrs over this scandal. 🤠

[mrwebb8825]

17 hours ago, Hummin said:

Sure, I heard Golf club membership will go down 1500% and the yacht club prices even more 

 

 

 

Your "shot across the bow" is some ignorant wanna be comedian and Cory "Spartacus" Booker? Really? I see why you dems have no F*&king clue anymore. You've been force fed ignorant drivel from your leaders for so long your brains have melted together.

"Orange Man Bad" and according to your new emerging voice (insert name) you STILL want to promote Biden/Obama policies that Americans (in the majority) said No F*&king More to. 

[darbie-foos]

in the words of senator Kennedy, the Obama deep state operators are "deader than fried chicken" . Trumps taking them all down Buckle up haters, Trumps gonna rock your pathetic democrat universe real soon.

 

 

[candide]

1 hour ago, darbie-foos said:

in the words of senator Kennedy, the Obama deep state operators are "deader than fried chicken" . Trumps taking them all down Buckle up haters, Trumps gonna rock your pathetic democrat universe real soon.

 

 

Indict Obama for not claiming that Russia hacked the election infrastructure? 🤣

[darbie-foos]

Sources say the bovine scatology will soon impact the oscilitory rotor on the Obamas treason /sedition crew. Watch this space and focus on the highly classified "Durham Annex" docs currently going through declassification process scheduled for public release by senator Grassley this week. It details evidence proving FBI knowingly pushing Hillarys fake Steele Dossier. Ouch, Comey gets orange soon.

 

 

[theblether]

21 minutes ago, candide said:

Indict Obama for not claiming that Russia hacked the election infrastructure? 🤣

 

We all know Obama won't be indicted even if guilt is beyond doubt. 

 

It's his reputation that's on the line. 

[darbie-foos]

1 hour ago, darbie-foos said:

in the words of senator Kennedy, the Obama deep state operators are "deader than fried chicken" . Trumps taking them all down Buckle up haters, Trumps gonna rock your pathetic democrat universe real soon.

 

 

told ya so, that was quick. 

 

 

[darbie-foos]

it's called seditous treason. The evidence is irrefutable. As usual Trump emerges on the right side of ineffective democrat plots to destroy him, and as the WINNER.

 

Why are all democrats such feckless corrupt morons & losers! 

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, darbie-foos said:

it's called seditous treason. The evidence is irrefutable. As usual Trump emerges on the right side and as the WINNER.

 

 

 

 

 

Seditious treason isn't even a thing.

 

You can have treason, sedition or seditious conspiracy....all of which rely on levying war or using violent force (January 6).

 

No one is going to jail, no one will even end up in court.

 

 

[darbie-foos]

14 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

 

Seditious treason isn't even a thing.

 

You can have treason, sedition or seditious conspiracy....all of which rely on levying war or using violent force (January 6).

 

No one is going to jail, no one will even end up in court.

 

 

Oh, but Comey, Brennan, Clapper, et all and especially HRC are ALL prosecutable with the prima facia case made already based on the evidence from the DNI and now recently declassified "Durham Report ANNEX" released by senator Chuck grassley, Obama with potential presidential immunity maybe not BUT based on potential presidential immunity he (Obama) can and likely will be compelled to testify and if he refuses or lies he will lose his immunity. So, Obama is essentially cornered and cooked now and will have to talk and sing to congress and criminal courts real soon. Splendid, I am sure President Trump will get this right as he always does and his DOJ will crucify Obama and the deep state for seditious conspiracy and for the 3 letter agency actors who lied under oath in various congressional inquiries about this. Anyone who thinks the strike force team at the DOJ will not indict/prosecute the treasonous Obama deep state cabal based on the current evidence is a typical ignorant and brainwashed democrat brain addled by derangement and likely some obsessive delusion and denial for facts and reality. The American public will demand nothing less than criminal indictments and prison for anyone involved in attempting to overthrow a sitting president, except maybe a few of you haters here. 

[Will B Good]

2 minutes ago, darbie-foos said:

Oh, but Comey, Brennan, Clapper, et all and especially HRC are ALL prosecutable with the prima facia case made already based on the evidence from the DNI and now recently declassified "Durham Report ANNEX" released by senator Chuck grassley, Obama with potential presidential immunity maybe not BUT based on potential presidential immunity he (Obama) can and likely will be compelled to testify and if he refuses or lies he will lose his immunity. So, Obama is essentially cornered and cooked now and will have to talk and sing to congress and criminal courts real soon. Splendid, I am sure President Trump will get this right as he always does and his DOJ will crucify Obama and the deep state for seditious conspiracy and for the 3 letter agency actors who lied under oath in various congressional inquiries about this. Anyone who thinks the strike force team at the DOJ will not indict/prosecute the treasonous Obama deep state cabal based on the current evidence is a typical ignorant and brainwashed democrat brain addled by derangement and likely some obsessive delusion and denial for facts and reality. The American public will demand nothing less than criminal indictments and prison for anyone involved in attempting to overthrow a sitting president, except maybe a few of you haters here. 

 

Managed to get to the end......but need to have a lie down now.......paragraphs???

[Jingthing]

Trump always accuses others of what he's guilty of.

A classic Roy Cohn diversionary tactic.

Obama is a traitor? No, that's Trump. Wake up maga people 

[save the frogs]

On 7/24/2025 at 2:17 AM, illisdean said:

Trumps got this, as usual, under strict control as the deep state squirms.

 

Yeah, seems like there is a war between "the deep state" and trump.

And that includes all his policies - tariffs, war with the Federal Reserve head, wanting to end the wars ...

 

But most people never believed "the deep state" existed in the first place.

 

[candide]

15 hours ago, theblether said:

 

We all know Obama won't be indicted even if guilt is beyond doubt. 

 

It's his reputation that's on the line. 

But there is absolutely no guilt. He never claimed that Russia hacked the election infrastructure! 🤣

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, candide said:

But there is absolutely no guilt. He never claimed that Russia hacked the election infrastructure! 🤣

Exactly.

But now that's the position of the fascist maga cult.

It's not about truth or reality to those fools. 

It's about loyalty to dear leader.

Trump's vision is not to serve the people and uphold the constitution. Rather his vision is that the people serve him and any that don't are enemies.

[SunnyinBangrak]

5 minutes ago, candide said:

But there is absolutely no guilt. He never claimed that Russia hacked the election infrastructure! 🤣

Seditious conspiracy is the accusation with written EVIDENCE to back up the claim. Why on earth do you keep banging on about election infrastructure? I note by the deflated tone of your posts recently - and those of other notorious laptop denying conspiracy theorists - that you are merely going through the motions of supporting your team. Devoted grandma defending her delinquent grandkids vibe. Sad really, all those years pumping out mocking disinformation grinding to a predictable end.