Middle East Macron's Bold Move: France to Recognise Palestinian State

[Hanuman2547]

6 hours ago, koolkarl said:

France is off my bucket list forever and anything made in France.

You do realize that Thailand recognizes Palestine?  Thailand relations were formalized on 1 August 2012, after the Kingdom of Thailand recognized the State of Palestine as a sovereign state.  Does that mean Thailand is now off your bucket list?

[Yagoda]

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Israel cannot live in peace when the neighbours keep attacking Israel .

Israel would preferer a peaceful existence

Its coming to the end. Trump said today that cease fire negotiations have broken down because the Gazans want to hold on to the hostages to protect themselves. He made it clear that Israel has to finish off Hamas as soon as possible.

[riclag]

4 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Untrue again .

Israelis have bomb shelters and air raids warnings and Israelis go into bomb shelters to keep safe from Pally rockets .

   Thats why there are few deaths 

 

Macron must've suffered a few screws loose from the infamous Bslap he took from the  MRS.

Anything that relates to the atrocities that involves Hamas vs Israel, I defer to Mr. Carter,

Truth be told .

[still kicking]

6 hours ago, koolkarl said:

France is off my bucket list forever and anything made in France.

So is mine made in the US

[proton]

4 hours ago, Chris.C said:

They saw Hamas as a way out their concentration camp. Just like many Irish supported the IRA freedom fighters.

 

How do people become so ignorant?

[Yagoda]

7 minutes ago, still kicking said:

So is mine made in the US

Get off the internet then.

[neil324]

9 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Get off the internet then.

Http protocol, the internet, was invented by an English person.....

[Evil Penevil]

 

6 hours ago, Chris.C said:

 The 1947 UN Partition Plan, for example, proposed giving 55% of historic Palestine to the Jewish minority, which made up just 33% of the population. 

 

The land assigned to a Jewish state under the 1947 partition plan included the Negev Desert, which at that time wasn't arable and had very few permanent residents.   Israel got desert in the south and swampland in the north.  The U.N. committee gave this land to Israel because Zionist settlers had a long record of transforming non-arable or semi-arable land into farms and orchards.   The drip irrigation method was invented by a Zionist settler.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/reclamation-of-man-made-desert/

https://irrigationleadermagazine.com/how-kibbutz-hatzerim-helped-pioneer-drip-irrigation/

 

 Moreover, Israel needed more land to support what was expected to be an influx of landless Jewish refugees from Europe and the nearly one million Jews who would be driven out of Arab countries.  This was all part of broad U.N. approval to give Jews a homeland which would resettle survivors of the Holocaust.  

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/postwar-refugee-crisis-and-the-establishment-of-the-state-of-israel

 

4 hours ago, Mavideol said:

how many countries recognize Israel

 

I'm not sure if this has changed recently, but as of 2024, Israel had been recognized by 164 of the U.N.'s 193 member states.  Twenty-five Muslim majority countries (including Malaysia and Indonesia) and three non-Muslim-majority countries  (Cuba, Venezuela and North Korea) don't recognize Israel.  There are eight other countries which have severed diplomatic ties with Israel but have not withdrawn recognition.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_Israel

 

2 hours ago, placnx said:

Yes, and the perpetrators will say that they were just following orders. There are a lot of selfie videos they made happily committing war crimes, so their version may not be too credible.

 

The videos taken by Hamas members and other Gazans on Oct. 7, 2023, were much more horrendous.

 

[Captor]

8 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   What had Israel been doing to Gaza for decades?

Israel gave the land to the palestinians and Arafat and Fatah to live in peace with Israel if they wanted too... They (Hamas) choosed another direction... we all know what that is even if some prefer to put the head in the sand. Not only 7 October already before that for decades.

[Nick Carter icp]

3 hours ago, placnx said:

The ICJ last year ruled that it's Gaza and the West Bank, and that the Zionist settlers should move out ASAP.

 

  Why should Jews have to move from the land ?

Jews can live there as Palestinian Jews , like Palestinians live in Israel as Israeli Muslims .

   You seem to suggesting apartheid and genocide in forcibly moving people from a land where their ancestors have lived for 1000s of years 

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[koolkarl]

10 hours ago, Hanuman2547 said:

You do realize that Thailand recognizes Palestine?  Thailand relations were formalized on 1 August 2012, after the Kingdom of Thailand recognized the State of Palestine as a sovereign state.  Does that mean Thailand is now off your bucket list?

News to me and I am in the process of leaving Thailand because of CRS and its future implications.

[pacovl46]

17 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   What had Israel been doing to Gaza for decades?

Nice try! 

[loong]

15 hours ago, Chris.C said:

Judea Dementia?

About time – but let’s not ignore the pattern. Every time Palestine has been offered a state, the terms have heavily favoured Israel. These so‑called “peace deals” typically offered the Palestinian majority – around 70% of the population at the time – less than 45% of the land. The 1947 UN Partition Plan, for example, proposed giving 55% of historic Palestine to the Jewish minority, which made up just 33% of the population. Later proposals – like the 2000 Camp David Summit – offered Palestinians fragmented enclaves amounting to about 22% of the land, divided by Israeli settlements, with no control over borders, airspace, or resources. In essence, they were offers of a state in name only.

You are missing the fact that Jordan had already been given over 70% of the British Mandate, so the Jews were given 55% of less than 30%.
Plus, of course, Iraq was handed over to the Arabs.

[Chris.C]

4 hours ago, loong said:

You are missing the fact that Jordan had already been given over 70% of the British Mandate, so the Jews were given 55% of less than 30%.
Plus, of course, Iraq was handed over to the Arabs.

It’s incorrect to say Jews got 55% of less than 30% of the Mandate.

– Transjordan (now Jordan) was separated in 1923 – it was no longer part of the land promised for a Jewish homeland.
– The 1947 UN Partition Plan only dealt with the land west of the Jordan River – what remained of the Mandate.
– Iraq wasn’t part of the Palestine Mandate – it was a separate British Mandate entirely.

So claiming Jews were “already given” most of the land by that point distorts the historical and legal reality.

[Chris.C]

15 hours ago, Hanuman2547 said:

You do realize that Thailand recognizes Palestine?  Thailand relations were formalized on 1 August 2012, after the Kingdom of Thailand recognized the State of Palestine as a sovereign state.  Does that mean Thailand is now off your bucket list?

Thailand doesn’t like Israelis and are some places won’t serve them.

[Chris.C]

15 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Israel's attitude is that if you attack us then will will annihilate you .

Israel needs to warn other Countries off from attacking them .

Israel's survival depends on it 

Israel’s attitude is kill a hundred or so waiting for food daily.

There is proof coming it which even  you won’t be able to defend.

 

[proton]

15 hours ago, Hanuman2547 said:

You do realize that Thailand recognizes Palestine?  Thailand relations were formalized on 1 August 2012, after the Kingdom of Thailand recognized the State of Palestine as a sovereign state.  Does that mean Thailand is now off your bucket list?

 

Where is this Palestine it recognises then?

[Chris.C]

3 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Where is this Palestine it recognises then?

Oh dear, here’s Daniella Weiss.

 

[still kicking]

21 hours ago, koolkarl said:

France is off my bucket list forever and anything made in France.

And anything made in the USA

[Nick Carter icp]

10 minutes ago, Chris.C said:

Israel’s attitude is kill a hundred or so waiting for food daily.

There is proof coming it which even  you won’t be able to defend.

 

 

   That isn't proof .

Why didn't he make a video of it?

Why hasn't anyone made a video of it?

Where are Hamas getting their food from ?

 

[still kicking]

53 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   That isn't proof .

Why didn't he make a video of it?

Why hasn't anyone made a video of it?

Where are Hamas getting their food from ?

 

Typical MAGA, I watch it every day on TV, the Palestinian kids are no actors 

[loong]

1 hour ago, Chris.C said:

– Transjordan (now Jordan) was separated in 1923 – it was no longer part of the land promised for a Jewish homeland.

But it was originally

[Nick Carter icp]

6 minutes ago, still kicking said:

Typical MAGA, I watch it every day on TV, the Palestinian kids are no actors 

 

   Do stop going on about children  , Pro Palestinians seem to always keep going on about Nazis and Children all the time .

   Hitler and School kids 

Weird 

[Bannoi]

This is only 3 minutes long but worth watching.

 

A retired Green Beret Lt. Colonel has revealed why he resigned from his work with US- and Israel-backed Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF) aid distribution centres.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cy8k8045nx9o

[Nick Carter icp]

54 minutes ago, Bannoi said:

This is only 3 minutes long but worth watching.

 

A retired Green Beret Lt. Colonel has revealed why he resigned from his work with US- and Israel-backed Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF) aid distribution centres.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cy8k8045nx9o

 

   That is the third time that that has been posted on here .

Its been posted three times in the last two hours 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

22 hours ago, Chris.C said:

Israel also maintained control over ID registration and movement permits for Gaza residents. And all imports/exports, air space, sea, etc

 

   Its Israel's border fence (with Gaza) and Israel can control that border by allowing who it wants to cross and what goods can be allowed to cross .

   ALL Countries have control of their borders and Israel is no different .

Gazians have no right to enter Israel , the sovereign Nation Israel

[placnx]

20 hours ago, Yagoda said:

They wont. Trump wont let them. As he said today about it: "It doesnt mean anything".

Individual countries or groups of countries can declare sanctions on Israel. They don't need Trump's permission.

[placnx]

20 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Israel's attitude is that if you attack us then will will annihilate you .

Israel needs to warn other Countries off from attacking them .

Israel's survival depends on it 

Israel needs to get over its paranoia. Now this has resulted in going rogue, violating the basic international rules through which it was born. 

[Yagoda]

18 minutes ago, placnx said:

Individual countries or groups of countries can declare sanctions on Israel. They don't need Trump's permission.

Yes, they do. You all do