Out in the woods: Too much humidity in our Thailand jungle now?

[MarkBR]

1 hour ago, phetphet said:

Removing so much humidity along with the air conditioning will help you feel cooler, but if you make the air too dry, that can also cause adverse effects, such as dry throat, coughs and others.

Depends on what is comfortable for what is experienced by the person concerned.  I like humidity, so not concerned about humidity (upbringing in Glasgow), but hate any temperature below 25 degrees C - the rheumatics - weird aches which I assume is osteoarthritis.  Damn sound like a character is Coronation Street or Last of the Summer Wine or some such soap opera.

[CallumWK]

Just now, GammaGlobulin said:

 

In fact, when you cool air, all things being equal, the relative humidity will rise, and not "drop", as you say.

Everybody knows this.

Well, I guess not...EVERYBODY....obviously....

 

 

So you know more than all the experts AI - Grok and whatever source that is available on the internet?

 

I always have avoided replying to your troll threads like a toothache, now I'm not gonna see them anymore.

[Old Croc]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

When I worked in the Pilbara, daytime temperatures could be 35 - 40 C.

 

Quite comfortable, because the humidity was only 10% RH.

I used to play footy in Tom Price without overheating any more than down south.

[GammaGlobulin]

17 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

Another troll comment. Freezers get down to -24 C, but they are not small enclosures, not 30 sqm rooms

 

Please take note of this important diagram:

 

 

 

Are you talking about a closed system?

And open system?

An isolated system?

 

Please be clear....!!!!

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

13 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

So you know more than all the experts AI - Grok and whatever source that is available on the internet?

 

I always have avoided replying to your troll threads like a toothache, now I'm not gonna see them anymore.

 

 

Assuming that you might not be able to read a grade-6 textbook in general science....

Then are you sure that you would be able to read, with understanding, the output from Grok?

 

 

[MarkBR]

17 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

So you know more than all the experts AI - Grok and whatever source that is available on the internet?

 

I always have avoided replying to your troll threads like a toothache, now I'm not gonna see them anymore.

AI can be accurate sometimes & sometimes not.  Cannot use it as a source of always accurate information.  The fundamental problem is something called hallucinations (Yes, it is called that).  

[Ralf001]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

Nights are cooler. 

 

It's been raining non-stop in Thailand for months.

 

During and after rain, humidity is north of 90%.

raining non stop ?

 

Not in Chonburi !

[DezLez]

2 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Rest assured, I will be taking another 2-months break, beginning in about an hour....

So, please keep your socks on...til then...

 

Another of your broken promises I assume!

[Photoguy21]

9 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Dear Folks,

 

Am I just imagining it?  Or, is there now just far more humidity in our jungle here in Thailand than there once was?

 

No, I am not imagining this.

 

Because, as we all know, Global Warming leads to increased levels of water vapor in the atmosphere.  And then we get increased precipitation.  And increasingly, we do get either floods or risk of floods.

 

I hope you enjoy it, because I do not enjoy it….much….

 

About 50 years ago, all of this was predictable. And, we are now living at the right time when we will see the predictions of the past actually bear fruit, and prove to be correct.

 

During the past two years, we have seen plenty of rain, and flooding, and we are bound to see much more of this, as time goes on.

 

One way to mitigate this is to just buy a dehumidifier.  I think I will cave, and I will buy one, too.

 

Or, if you are from a Scandinavian country, where people love a good sauna, then just move here, and enjoy your sauna experience for free.

 

I am not saying that Global-Warming-imposed saunas for the common man is not a good thing, because most people in this land are not rich enough to afford a sauna, unlike in the Scandinavian countries.

 

I just worry about the increase in bugs/insects, which I have recently noticed here.

 

Most insects, such as mosquitoes, seem to thrive well in these higher-humidity conditions.  And, during the past two years, after the past drier years, these pests have proliferated.

 

What do you think?

 

IF this Global Warming phenomenon continues, will we be able to endure paradise in this jungle which we now call home?

 

Whether or not we will or can has already become a hot topic among climate scientists. They say we will soon find life here intolerable.

 

But, one might also ask:

 

Is there any other place on the planet which we might find less intolerable?

 

Every time I think about the jungle heat, and humidity, I think of only one man and one song.

I first listened to this song before most people were aware of what it might be like to be out in the woods.

And now that we are out in the woods, I think it is worthwhile to listen to this song, from many years ago....

Once again...in fact.

 

But, concerning where to flee...

Maybe, and probably, some of us are just too old to migrate, once again, …probably.

 

Best regards,

Gamma

 

Please Note:  And, is everything just all a joke, given the fact that nobody is willing to change, even if the writing is on the wall, and has been on the wall for decades?  NO, nobody will change, even if they might make token changes....

 

The momentum is so great, our ship is impossible to change direction, even by an inch, or a millimeter....

 

Smoke on.....

Stay stoned, maybe....

And let's go down with the ship....happily....

Would this be best?

 

Should we not continue to focus on our visions of sugarplums, as usual, denying the reality around us?

 

Such irrational visions of sugarplums....are so satisfying.

 

I hope you have found your sugarplum, during these final days.

This is your best strategy, IMHO.....

 

 

 

 

 

Water vapour would act as a coolant

[Lacessit]

4 hours ago, Old Croc said:

I used to play footy in Tom Price without overheating any more than down south.

I remember playing golf there, gravel fairways. 

 

The only grass was the first tee, about 3X3 metres.

 

Go off the fairway, golf balls became rock climbers.

 

 

[Lacessit]

4 hours ago, CallumWK said:

 

Another troll comment. Freezers get down to -24 C, but they are not small enclosures, not 30 sqm rooms

There ARE freezers similar in size to 36 sqm  room. They are called refrigerated containers. How do you think ships transport frozen fish and beef? 

 

The biggest freezer container is a 45 footer, which works out to 86 cubic metres. They are also used as offices at some mining sites.

 

A 36 sqm room with a 3 metre ceiling is 108 cubic metres.

 

Obviously, the heat transfer capacity of the unit refrigerating said volume is a lot bigger than an air conditioning unit.

 

What AI or Google sources are you using, that tell you warm air holds less moisture than cold air? 

 

Labeling my posts as trolling is a cop-out, you just do not want to admit you are wrong. Again.

[1FinickyOne]

It's not the heat - it's the humanity

[GammaGlobulin]

2 hours ago, Photoguy21 said:

Water vapour would act as a coolant

 

No.

Please think of PHASE CHANGES, again.

It is the transition from liquid water to water vapor, which is a gas, that requires energy.

 

How can this be so difficult to grasp?

This stuff is taught to 10-year olds.

Please believe me.

 

No phase change?

Then no cooling....!

Got it?

 

[GammaGlobulin]

2 hours ago, Photoguy21 said:

Water vapour would act as a coolant

 

Water vapor is actually a GREENHOUSE GAS....so....

Water vapor in the atmosphere causes HEATING, and not cooling.

Now do you understand?

 

 

[MarkBR]

6 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Water vapor is actually a GREENHOUSE GAS....so....

Water vapor in the atmosphere causes HEATING, and not cooling.

Now do you understand?

 

 

Water vapour is one of the main greenhouse gases, without it no life on our planet - not even considering the liquid part.  Try not to scream, he probably did not do any science at school.

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, MarkBR said:

Water vapour is one of the main greenhouse gases, without it no life on our planet - not even considering the liquid part.  Try not to scream, he probably did not do any science at school.

It's reminding me of the economic illiterati, who argue tariffs are paid by countries exporting goods and services

[MarkBR]

8 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Hard to take of clothes that one is already not wearing.

Once you get down to bare naked, then not much more is available to come off.

 

I have two closets full of clothes.

They have been hanging in there for a long time, untouched.

 

When it snows in Chiang Mai, then this will be the day I have another look at them.

 

It's the humidity that I do not like.

 

50 percent relative humidity, at 22-degrees, and I am fine.

 

I prefer 30-percent, of course.

 

 

 

Both air purifiers are in the same room.

 

One side of the room is warmer than the other side of the room, just due to one side being closer to the outside wall.

 

So then....

 

WHY is the RH higher on the colder side of the room?

Why is the RH lower on the warmer side of the room?

 

This might be a question for some of the members who replied to this Topic...I think.....

They seem to have no clue....obviously....

 

 

 

 

 

19 degrees & 21 degrees would kill me.  Must have become an ectotherm/poikilotherm.

[Lacessit]

7 hours ago, CallumWK said:

 

TRoll

 

 

On top of that, you have repeatedly denied my posts where I said humidity drops when room get cooled down

You have totally misinterpreted my post.

 

As air is cooled in the air conditioner, water condenses on the coils, and drains to the exterior. Heat is rejected via the radiator.

 

The humidity is lower in the room because water has been extracted from the air by the conditioner, NOT because cold air has less humidity.

 

You clearly don't understand basic physics. FFS go back to school.

[Old Croc]

19 hours ago, Lacessit said:

I remember playing golf there, gravel fairways. 

 

The only grass was the first tee, about 3X3 metres.

 

Go off the fairway, golf balls became rock climbers.

 

 

The oval was grass, but rock hard, Injured my knee ended my footy career. 

[Ralf001]

16 hours ago, MarkBR said:

19 degrees & 21 degrees would kill me.  Must have become an ectotherm/poikilotherm.

Gammagobbymouth boarded up the widows in his house to acheive those rediculous temps.

[Photoguy21]

22 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

No.

Please think of PHASE CHANGES, again.

It is the transition from liquid water to water vapor, which is a gas, that requires energy.

 

How can this be so difficult to grasp?

This stuff is taught to 10-year olds.

Please believe me.

 

No phase change?

Then no cooling....!

Got it?

 

Please try and have some logical thinking. Yes the temperature will increase and the vapour will tend to try and cool it as it moves from gas to liquid.

[Photoguy21]

22 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Water vapor is actually a GREENHOUSE GAS....so....

Water vapor in the atmosphere causes HEATING, and not cooling.

Now do you understand?

 

 

You are one of these doom and gloom merchants. As the temperature increases the water in the air gets less. I can only assume you have never been in a really hot climate such as the Middle East in summer.

[MarkBR]

17 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

You are one of these doom and gloom merchants. As the temperature increases the water in the air gets less. I can only assume you have never been in a really hot climate such as the Middle East in summer.

As the heat increases there are convection currents this moves the air upwards, as the air moves upwards it gets cooler, at a threshold temperature & depending on presence of condensation nuclei (bacteria, sugar alcohols, dust particles, etc.) it will then condense to form rain (phase changes as mentioned by GammaGlobulin).  Hence, the rain in the tropical regions.

 

The reason is humidity is less in the middle eastern countries is that they get very infrequent rain due to the air already having had most of its water rained out over the tropical (equatorial) regions, this air will have a lot less water vapour then travels & descends at the Tropics of Cancer & Capricorn.  This is why there is less humidity in the Middle East & any countries at similar latitudes, the humidity is lower because it has condensed somewhere else.

All this movement is due to global convection currents forming the various convection cell such as the Hadley cells.  All is driven by the Sun's radiation output and the absorptive capacities of the various greenhouse gases & how their wavelengths (lambda) change when re-emitted after ground absorption.

 

[hotsun]

On 7/27/2025 at 6:58 AM, ThreeCardMonte said:

Pity.

 

You should leave the jungle and Thailand during this time of year.

 

Unless you’re stuck.

 

San Diego is great this time of year.  Mediterranean weather.

 

I just came back for the summer.

 

 

Really jealous and jaded people thumbs down your post. Thanks for the photos

[DezLez]

5 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

Gammagobbymouth boarded up the widows in his house to acheive those rediculous temps.

I wish he would board up his keyboard!

[ThreeCardMonte]

5 hours ago, hotsun said:

Really jealous and jaded people thumbs down your post. Thanks for the photos

I’m hoping to have a rendezvous with @Tug

 

He keeps avoiding me.  Typical coward.

[Harrisfan]

1 minute ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

I’m hoping to have a rendezvous with @Tug

 

He keeps avoiding me.  Typical coward.

They are all cowards. 

[nauseus]

On 7/27/2025 at 4:24 AM, GammaGlobulin said:

Dear Folks,

 

Am I just imagining it?  Or, is there now just far more humidity in our jungle here in Thailand than there once was?

 

No, I am not imagining this.

 

Because, as we all know, Global Warming leads to increased levels of water vapor in the atmosphere.  And then we get increased precipitation.  And increasingly, we do get either floods or risk of floods.

 

I hope you enjoy it, because I do not enjoy it….much….

 

About 50 years ago, all of this was predictable. And, we are now living at the right time when we will see the predictions of the past actually bear fruit, and prove to be correct.

 

During the past two years, we have seen plenty of rain, and flooding, and we are bound to see much more of this, as time goes on.

 

One way to mitigate this is to just buy a dehumidifier.  I think I will cave, and I will buy one, too.

 

Or, if you are from a Scandinavian country, where people love a good sauna, then just move here, and enjoy your sauna experience for free.

 

I am not saying that Global-Warming-imposed saunas for the common man is not a good thing, because most people in this land are not rich enough to afford a sauna, unlike in the Scandinavian countries.

 

I just worry about the increase in bugs/insects, which I have recently noticed here.

 

Most insects, such as mosquitoes, seem to thrive well in these higher-humidity conditions.  And, during the past two years, after the past drier years, these pests have proliferated.

 

What do you think?

 

IF this Global Warming phenomenon continues, will we be able to endure paradise in this jungle which we now call home?

 

Whether or not we will or can has already become a hot topic among climate scientists. They say we will soon find life here intolerable.

 

But, one might also ask:

 

Is there any other place on the planet which we might find less intolerable?

 

Every time I think about the jungle heat, and humidity, I think of only one man and one song.

I first listened to this song before most people were aware of what it might be like to be out in the woods.

And now that we are out in the woods, I think it is worthwhile to listen to this song, from many years ago....

Once again...in fact.

 

But, concerning where to flee...

Maybe, and probably, some of us are just too old to migrate, once again, …probably.

 

Best regards,

Gamma

 

Please Note:  And, is everything just all a joke, given the fact that nobody is willing to change, even if the writing is on the wall, and has been on the wall for decades?  NO, nobody will change, even if they might make token changes....

 

The momentum is so great, our ship is impossible to change direction, even by an inch, or a millimeter....

 

Smoke on.....

Stay stoned, maybe....

And let's go down with the ship....happily....

Would this be best?

 

Should we not continue to focus on our visions of sugarplums, as usual, denying the reality around us?

 

Such irrational visions of sugarplums....are so satisfying.

 

I hope you have found your sugarplum, during these final days.

This is your best strategy, IMHO.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, you are imagining this.

[nauseus]

17 hours ago, MarkBR said:

As the heat increases there are convection currents this moves the air upwards, as the air moves upwards it gets cooler, at a threshold temperature & depending on presence of condensation nuclei (bacteria, sugar alcohols, dust particles, etc.) it will then condense to form rain (phase changes as mentioned by GammaGlobulin).  Hence, the rain in the tropical regions.

 

The reason is humidity is less in the middle eastern countries is that they get very infrequent rain due to the air already having had most of its water rained out over the tropical (equatorial) regions, this air will have a lot less water vapour then travels & descends at the Tropics of Cancer & Capricorn.  This is why there is less humidity in the Middle East & any countries at similar latitudes, the humidity is lower because it has condensed somewhere else.

All this movement is due to global convection currents forming the various convection cell such as the Hadley cells.  All is driven by the Sun's radiation output and the absorptive capacities of the various greenhouse gases & how their wavelengths (lambda) change when re-emitted after ground absorption.

 

 

That is mostly gibberish. You didn't mention pressure systems once.

 

Arabia and North Africa are  both influenced by persistent high atmospheric pressure featuring descending air, which dries as it sinks, inhibiting cloud formation and precipitation. 

[GammaGlobulin]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

 

That is mostly gibberish. You didn't mention pressure systems once.

 

Arabia and North Africa are  both influenced by persistent high atmospheric pressure featuring descending air, which dries as it sinks, inhibiting cloud formation and precipitation. 

 

It is not the sinking that causes the air to become drier.

It is the fact that the cold air at high altitude warms much as it sinks to lower altitude.

The RH of a warming gas will decrease, radically, even though no water is added to the system.

 

Please keep in mind that the absolute amount of water vapor in the air remains the same in this example, although of course the amount of air under discussion will expand.

 

If you were to add water vapor from some other source, then this would change the validity of this example.