1 hour ago, lordgrinz said:

 

They aren't acting aggressive enough, they need to take the fight to Cambodia now, surgical airstrikes around the clock would work. Also, hunt down Hun Sen and Hun Manet, eliminate them permanently.

Same could be said for the Shin family

Cambodia has been at it for months already. Deploying more and more troops near the border and building bunkers and such. I cannot find the link right now but it is from some Australian bloke tracking satellite images. He is suppose to be very accurate. 

34 minutes ago, ikke1959 said:

Same could be said for the Shin family

.  Doubt they would be able to cobble together another coalition if clobbered by PP.  This will be a worry for the other extreme rightwing non-progressive parties.  PP is Thailand's greatest hope for the future.

2 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

 

They aren't acting aggressive enough, they need to take the fight to Cambodia now, surgical airstrikes around the clock would work. Also, hunt down Hun Sen and Hun Manet, eliminate them permanently.

Would you like a war with China, because China will intervene and protect cambodia.

 

53 minutes ago, ikke1959 said:

Hun Sen wanted to tell the truth about the Shin family and Thaksin as he thinks he is Thailand started the problems.. Of course it is pretending that it is about border or a temple, but he admitted that he wanted to teach Hun Sen a lesson...

Nonsense. Thaksin and  Hun Sen have gotten along like 2 old time mobsters who had carved up a region.

2 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Would you like a war with China, because China will intervene and protect cambodia.

 

 

China is close to both, they will sit on the sidelines like they are in Myanmar.

Just now, lordgrinz said:

 

China is close to both, they will sit on the sidelines like they are in Myanmar.

Much closer to Cambodia.

Just now, Jingthing said:

Much closer to Cambodia.

To all intents & purposes Cambodia is a vassal state of China

24 minutes ago, MarkBR said:

To all intents & purposes Cambodia is a vassal state of China

 

With a poorly equiped and untrained military, not all that close.

Trump and the US need to shut up. There is absolutely nothing for them to gain by interfering in this matter. No matter how much Trump is now ready to suck up to Cambodia, the Cambodians will never decrease their ties to China by even the tiniest bit. And Thailand will dance to China's tune as well. The fact is it is in US interest to stay out of this. Let Thailand get mad at China when China backs up the Cambodians--and China's naval base in Cambodia. This all is just Nobel Peace posturing by Trump, who can't even pronounce 'Thailand' correctly.

The usual tension between canon — narrative authority — and cannon — corrective force — doesn’t just play out on land, and not for foot soldiers only.
Who knows — maybe parliament will finally hurry up with that currently stalled submarine. Symbolically, today is a perfect day to start. Although — comparing the timestamps of posts, something weird may just have happened here.

Thailand should use this window of opportunity to hit Cambodian military assets hard and send a strong message to the war criminal Hun Sen and his cronies not to mess with the SEA military powerhouse, as Cambodia is no match for the Thai military. 

Cambodia made a mistake targeting civilian places as that's a war crime... so Thailand is well within its right to go the whole 9 yards and take out as much Cambodian military assets as they can, and get valuable experience and data from it all. If Thailand wanted, they could easily snatch that temple and surrounding land in a ground invasion just to humiliate Hun Sen, who I dislike a lot.

However, on a different angle, this has much deep roots to consider. It seems to me that somone intentionally released that phone call on an unsecure line between the Thai PM and Hun Sen. I don't think Hun Sen released it, If I was to guess it would the the US through the PRISM system who can track any communications on earth is not securely protected, even then, they might be able to.

Think who are the losers and winners here. The casino thing and Thailand's drift towards Beijing has been interupted, Hun Sen has been humiliated, and China thought it could wade into the crisis and appear the peacemaker plus gain influence and legitimacy etc... none of which has turned out, along with China's BRI plans for Thailand and Cambodia have been set back too. It is interesting that the main Cambodian opposition leader in Thailand was the one to release the recording of that conversation. Wonder how he got it other than being given it? There is much unseen power-play and off-screen plots going off here than most realise.

7 hours ago, mfd101 said:

And neither of the 2 men meeting today holds real power of decision in the current circumstance.

 

It's clear who it is in Cambodia (Daddy), but not clear now in Thailand ... 

 

Also Daddy

 

20 minutes ago, Espanol said:

Also Daddy

That may prove to be out of date. Daddy Thaksin looks to be on a slippery slope, and his daughter also. Meanwhile what power does the Acting PM have? (whose name escapes me and most Thais) ...

Cease fire agreement as of 24.00 hours.

UPDATE
Thai & Cambodian Leaders Agree to Ceasefire Following Malaysia Talks

 

 

11 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

 

China is close to both, they will sit on the sidelines like they are in Myanmar.

China is not sitting on the sidelines in Myanmar. It is singlehandedly propping up the Myanmar government.  China has significant economic interests in Myanmar. The amount of military aid that China gives to Myanmar has been  documented; At least $.267 million in weaponry. Russia too has provided $406 million in military aid  https://www.stimson.org/2025/too-little-too-late-china-steps-up-military-aid-to-myanmars-junta/

The presence of Chinese military operatives in Myanmar is not a secret. https://www.irrawaddy.com/opinion/guest-column/chinese-military-infiltrates-myanmar-in-security-guise.html

 

 

The Cambodia Thailand conflict  shares  some of the Myanmar characteristics with China invested in Cambodia. One of the main beneficiaries of regional conflict is China.   This too has been  discussed by multiple think tanks. For example, China’s Double Game in Myanmar  How Beijing Is Manipulating Civil Conflict to Secure Regional Dominance   https://www.foreignaffairs.com/china/chinas-double-game-myanmar

 

You are naive if you  believe that China would not intervene to secure the Cambodian regime. Thailand would not get past a border buffer area before  the Chinese airforce  neutralized much of Thailand's airforce, and Thailand's  generals are well aware of this. Thailand needs China's economic investments. China does not need Thailand except as a land buffer and as a market to buy its industrial output, and China could achieve this with another military coup.

 

7 hours ago, Sir Dude said:

However, on a different angle, this has much deep roots to consider. It seems to me that somone intentionally released that phone call on an unsecure line between the Thai PM and Hun Sen. I don't think Hun Sen released it, If I was to guess it would the the US through the PRISM system who can track any communications on earth is not securely protected, even then, they might be able to.

Think who are the losers and winners here. The casino thing and Thailand's drift towards Beijing has been interupted, Hun Sen has been humiliated, and China thought it could wade into the crisis and appear the peacemaker plus gain influence and legitimacy etc... none of which has turned out, along with China's BRI plans for Thailand and Cambodia have been set back too. It is interesting that the main Cambodian opposition leader in Thailand was the one to release the recording of that conversation. Wonder how he got it other than being given it? There is much unseen power-play and off-screen plots going off here than most realise.

 

On the contrary, China's presence has been reinforced. It was China that pressured both Cambodia and Thailand to  stop the  stupidity. It is China that has the regional clout.

15 hours ago, SMIAI said:

@ThreeCardMonte Trump has nothing. They roundly ignored him and carried on doing what they were doing. Otherwise we wouldn't have Rubio having a go.

You are seriously 'sucking' up to Trump. It's weird.

When will you claim “The war is all Trumps fault “.

 

 

18 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

Obvious that Thailand seems to be the aggressor and unwilling to de escalate...  

BS 

14 hours ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

 
Yet, if Harris was president (never happen) your nose would be so far up her as/ saying Go Girl!  You got this!

 

 

Just mind your own business for a change and keep out of other countries politics for once,

25 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Just mind your own business for a change and keep out of other countries politics for once,

Read the thread topic Einstein!

 

Have you considered following your own advice?

 

The left produces some real winners.

 

 

Advice for the US gov't:

(warning, strong language involved)

https://youtu.be/eXPG561WcDw

 

It ain't his business.  Does he even know the difference between Thailand and  Taiwan?

 

Removed a post that claimed others were paid to post. If you have any actual evidence please forward it to support. If it's just a lame debating tactic, further references like that may find you without posting rights.

 

Off topic posts have been removed.

18 hours ago, Sir Dude said:

Thailand should use this window of opportunity to hit Cambodian military assets hard and send a strong message to the war criminal Hun Sen and his cronies not to mess with the SEA military powerhouse, as Cambodia is no match for the Thai military. 

Cambodia made a mistake targeting civilian places as that's a war crime... so Thailand is well within its right to go the whole 9 yards and take out as much Cambodian military assets as they can, and get valuable experience and data from it all. If Thailand wanted, they could easily snatch that temple and surrounding land in a ground invasion just to humiliate Hun Sen, who I dislike a lot.

Agree, IMHO the minimum service of RTP would be to push back to border to the foothills on the Cambodian side, and that should include Preah Vihear. Proper modern fortification of the hills could then happen. Keep the border closed as long as needed.

If any Western country HAS to be at the talks in Malaysia,  it should be France. Yhey should offer to do an aerial or drone survey along the whole of Cambodia's borders using GPS and new scale maps. Then the results should be sent to Cambodia, Thailand and the UN/

 

After that the leaders of Cambodia and Thailand, de facto or de jure should be locked into a completely empty room with no furniture, food water or even a toilet until they BOTH accept the new borders.

12 hours ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

Read the thread topic Einstein!

 

Have you considered following your own advice?

 

The left produces some real winners.

 

 

I live and work in Thailand, which makes it my business.

I am not left.

9 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

I live and work in Thailand, which makes it my business.

I am not left.

No one gives a rats as-  that you’re a 30k baht a month school teacher.

 

Are you a Thai citizen?  No you’re not.  Not your business.

 

I determine you are a leftists by the content of your posts throughout the forum.

 

Regardless of what you claim.

13 minutes ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

No one gives a rats as-  that you’re a 30k baht a month school teacher.

I take home 7+ times that per month and am not a teacher. Wife makes money too.

How much do you get per month?