5 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Idiots... stick to YOUR lane... 

 

 

 

 

 

   In the video above Cucurella had something wrong with his football boots and that caused him to keep falling over .

   He changed his boots soon after

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

 

So you think that only inferior people can be the victims of discrimination?

 

Fair point. You've stated time and time again throughout this thread how discriminated against you perceive yourself to be.

 

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

I'm not sure that's entirely consistent with your world view, Ray. 😆

 

My world view is seemingly more nuanced and less 'black and white' - oops, I mean monochrome - than yours, Jonny.

37 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

England men won the World Cup without needing penalties .

England Woman haven't won the World cup

 

England's men won the Football World Cup 59 years ago...  (thats two full generations ago !)....

 

The reality - both the English Men's and the Women's football teams have done really well in the past decade... 

The Women have been more successful in achieving silverware.

 

Neither the Women's team success detracts from the Men's achievements, and neither does the additional power and speed of the Men's game detract from the Women's achievements.

 

Comments to the contrary are just idiotic IMO.

 

 

 

 

 

13 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

Fair point.

 

Not so much "fair", but "brilliant" if I may say so myself. 

 

13 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

 

You've stated time and time again throughout this thread how discriminated against you perceive yourself to be.

 

No I haven't.

 

13 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

 

My world view is seemingly more nuanced and less 'black and white' - oops, I mean monochrome - than yours, Jonny.

 

It's not nuanced. It's hypocritical and based in fantasy. When analyzed it falls apart. Like most leftist views.

 

But at least we are agreed that a) the women's game is inferior b) men do not belong in women's sport and c) you do not need to be or feel inferior to be discriminated against. That's progress Ray. I expect more in the coming months as the leftist dogma of the past few years is rapidly debunked even further.

4 hours ago, Will B Good said:

I see the incels and misogynists are piling in on this......sados.

 

   Just because you disagree with people, you dont have to call them names,. stick labels on them and be abusive .

   You can do better than that 

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Just because you disagree with people, you dont have to call them names,. stick labels on them and be abusive .

   You can do better than that 

He can?

5 minutes ago, angryguy said:

He can?

 

   Yeah, he's really rich and intelligent with a high education and lots of money and a wonderful wife .

  Thats what he keeps telling everyone anyway 

2 hours ago, RayC said:

My grievance here is that this coverage - and the equally overblown coverage of the EPL - is at the expense of the EFL, which is much more competitive and is thriving (attendances up in all three divisions).

I agree - and this is why there is a lot of criticism (woke call it 'hate') - the hype that is going to the WSL should be given to that which is more deserving - The EPL.  If it was just added on top it would be OK but it is not - it is taken away from other far more deserving sports.

 

I will agree to disagree about women's mental capabilities.  You need to live longer and with more women maybe?

  

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   In the video above Cucurella had something wrong with his football boots and that caused him to keep falling over .

   He changed his boots soon after

You missed the point - deliberately & facetiously I suspect…

 

… there are 100’s of videos highlighting stuff-ups in sports, a lot of them covering men’s football…

 

… to post such a clip in the manner proton did simply highlights bigoted idiocy… 

 

The women footballers are not as good as the men..  big deal…  until we get into the silliness of the woke commentary suggesting equality…

 

5 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

You missed the point - deliberately & facetiously I suspect…

 

  No, I was just pointing out that the player in the video slipped over due to having unsuitable footwear , so, it wasn't a mistake (as claimed)

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

No, I was just pointing out that the player in the video slipped over due to having unsuitable footwear , so, it wasn't a mistake (as claimed)

So it wasn’t his mistake in choosing the wrong boots ??? 

 

… anyway, off-point… all players slip… part of the sport…

 

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

Not so much "fair", but "brilliant" if I may say so myself. 

 

Obviously our thresholds for "brillance" are yet another thing we differ about

 

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

No I haven't.

 

My apologies you haven't. I confused your posts with another member's. 

 

You have 'only' used this thread about sport i.e. the success of the England Women's football team to have a dig about such unrelated subjects as the Labour party; 'wokeness', the (perceived) two-tier justice system in the UK and women footballers making political statements, while at the same time suggesting "Keep the politics, demands, complaining and Wokery out of it (sport) ...".

 

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

It's not nuanced. It's hypocritical and based in fantasy. When analyzed it falls apart. Like most leftist views.

 

No Jonny, it's called unbiased analysis. There are pros and cons associated with almost all proposals. If I consider something to be logical and, in general, beneficial I will support that measure. I do not have an overly simplistic 'Black/ White' view of matters whereby anything originating from the Left; the EU; the Labour party, etc is automatically dismissed as 'bad', whereas anything proposed by Reform; Trump; the Right, etc is - by dint of its' origin - good.

 

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

But at least we are agreed that a) the women's game is inferior b) men do not belong in women's sport and c) you do not need to be or feel inferior to be discriminated against. That's progress Ray. I expect more in the coming months as the leftist dogma of the past few years is rapidly debunked even further.

 

Yes, nice to agree on something [ (a), b) and c)].

 

I fear that you may be disappointed about future developments but I remain open to persuasion. If only I could say the same for you.

Personally after watching most of it I thought Spain were the better team and should have won it.

8 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Just because you disagree with people, you dont have to call them names,. stick labels on them and be abusive .

   You can do better than that 

 

Says the man who calls anyone who criticises Israel "anti semitic". 

1 minute ago, josephbloggs said:

 

Says the man who calls anyone who criticises Israel "anti semitic". 

 

   Stop telling lies .

I do not call people who criticise Israel as being Anti Semitic .

I call anti semites Anti Semitics 

9 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   England men won the World Cup without needing penalties .

England Woman haven't won the World cup

Not in my lifetime have England won a world cup on Penalties and i'm 68. let us know when this happened.

9 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   England men won the World Cup without needing penalties .

..... not in my lifetime ..... not in most people's lifetime.  Having to go back to the Bronze Age to dig up a victory is just sad.

2 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

..... not in my lifetime ..... not in most people's lifetime.  Having to go back to the Bronze Age to dig up a victory is just sad.

 

   Trophies only count since AFTER you were born ?

Maybe we should begin again and change the year that you were born in to year 0000 ?

11 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Trophies only count since AFTER you were born ?

Maybe we should begin again and change the year that you were born in to year 0000 ?

The statute of limitations for lamely using a sports victory to try and demean current achievements is 50 years.

 

Sorry, your tired boast about ancient British history has expired. 😅😅😅

On 7/30/2025 at 2:20 PM, Photoguy21 said:

She may if she resigned

Possible but highly unlikely

On 7/30/2025 at 5:59 AM, JonnyF said:

 

Nowhere near schoolboy standard. Switzerland women were hammered 7-1 by an under 15's boys team in the buildup to this tournament. Was that Barcelona under 15's, you might ask? Was it the German under 15's national schoolboy side? No, it was FC Luzern under 15's.  

 

Spain, the current Women world champions and eventual finalists could only edge past Switzerland 2-0.

 

That tells you a a lot about the standard of women's football. So please, no more women commentating on and critiquing the men's game. It's embarrassing. 

And didn't the US women's football team get beaten by a Dallas FC U15 boys team 5-2?