It is a very complex situation, in my humble opinion I see 3 problems here, firstly Hamas needs to go, Netanyahu is difficult to say the least, the Palestinians need a home and given the hostility between the 2 parties a 2 state solution is the only way forward. Both are not the easiest to get along with so stop trying to make them coexist in a shared society! 

 

 

This should have been done long ago !! I ain't gonna say 'Better late than never' because a good chance to put early pressure on Hamas was missed.

On 7/30/2025 at 10:08 PM, webfact said:

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In a groundbreaking move, Arab and Muslim states, including Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt, have united to call for Hamas to lay down its arms and relinquish control of the Gaza Strip. This unprecedented declaration emerged from a United Nations conference co-hosted by Saudi Arabia and France.

 

The initiative aims to address peaceful solutions to the ongoing conflict and promote a sovereign Palestinian state.

 

The 22-member Arab League, the EU, and 17 additional countries backed the declaration. The document asserts that governance and security across Palestinian territories should transition solely to the Palestinian Authority (PA), with appropriate international support, ending Hamas's rule in Gaza. It also proposes deploying a "temporary international stabilisation mission" under UN oversight to assist the transition, according to CNN.

 

France’s Foreign Minister, Jean-Noël Barrot, highlighted the significance of this move, noting the conference marked the first instance of Saudi Arabia and other Arab nations condemning Hamas's October 7, 2023 attack on Israel. The declaration reflects a broader desire for normalised relations with Israel and an ultimate two-state solution.

 

The Hostages and Missing Families Forum praised the statement, emphasising the importance of condemning actions like kidnapping that breach international law. Although Qatar and Egypt have served as mediators while keeping relations with both Hamas and Israel, this recent development indicates a change in regional dynamics.

 

In March, Egypt proposed a plan for Gaza excluding Hamas from governance, supporting a temporary Palestinian committee to assume control until a handover to the PA. Saudi Arabia has consistently advocated for a revival of the two-state solution that France and the UK support, with France poised to recognise a Palestinian state by September unless a ceasefire occurs.

 

Despite these diplomatic efforts, Hamas has shown no interest in ceding power in Gaza, leaving uncertainties about the path forward. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu remains opposed to a two-state solution, citing security concerns.

 

This unified call to disarm Hamas marks a significant moment in Middle Eastern diplomacy, illustrating a rare consensus among Arab nations and international powers. The implications for the future of Israeli-Palestinian relations remain to be seen, as stakeholders continue to navigate this complex geopolitical landscape.

 

  Adapted by ASEAN Now from CNN 2025-07-31

 

 

It's about freaking time. Where do I sign up to help them "lay down their arms", legs, heads?

 

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4 hours ago, paul1804 said:

It is a very complex situation, in my humble opinion I see 3 problems here, firstly Hamas needs to go, Netanyahu is difficult to say the least, the Palestinians need a home and given the hostility between the 2 parties a 2 state solution is the only way forward. Both are not the easiest to get along with so stop trying to make them coexist in a shared society! 

 

Palestinians did have a home. It was in the country now called Jordan. The same document that agreed to recognize the borders of the nation of Israel created Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon and formalized the borders of Iraq and Syria.  The Hashemite rulers of Jordan are transplants from the Arabian  peninsula and are the poor relatives of the Saudi royal family.  Westerners pretend that Jordan has been there all along when really it only came into existence in 1946. Arab countries avoid the topic because they would rather Hashemites in control than palestinians.

 

 

When I read of the history of the Palestine leadership in the past, The PLO did not behave very well.

Read what the Palestines tried to to to the King of Jordan. Who did they cheer for during Iraqs invasion of

Kuwait? I also wonder why Egypt and Saudi Arabia do not trust them?  I agree it is a complex situation, and

Hamas has to disarm and give up all the hostages. Isreal has to make the illegal settlements dissapear

and maybe the futrure will be more peaceful. Good Luck with those thoughts.

On 7/31/2025 at 8:22 AM, impulse said:

 

From the OP:  Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu remains opposed to a two-state solution, citing security concerns.

 

Their proposal isn't going to work.

 

 

It might given the UK and France are on board

On 7/31/2025 at 10:54 AM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  I am quite sure that he didn't say that 

 

Ben-Gvir and ministers  who are adherants of Kahanism, or versions of, have pretty much said that.

 

Kahanism is represented by the Otzma Yehudit party. For a while it was part of the Netanyahu government; Israeli politics are marked by crazy coalitions and generally weak government that makes Italian politics look like the paridigm of statesmanlike stability. Kahanism believes Israel is a theocratic state, and that non-Jews should accordingly be denied all voting rights. It was originally reprsented by the Kach Party, which is now banned by Israel, and which was, for a while, a proscribed terrorist organisation in most Western countries.

2 hours ago, MicroB said:

 

Ben-Gvir and ministers  who are adherants of Kahanism, or versions of, have pretty much said that.

 

 

   But we are talking about Netanyahu 

The Arab states neither like nor trust the Palestinian people which is why they  give them only token support 

On 8/1/2025 at 9:24 PM, Patong2021 said:

 

Palestinians did have a home. It was in the country now called Jordan. The same document that agreed to recognize the borders of the nation of Israel created Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon and formalized the borders of Iraq and Syria.  The Hashemite rulers of Jordan are transplants from the Arabian  peninsula and are the poor relatives of the Saudi royal family.  Westerners pretend that Jordan has been there all along when really it only came into existence in 1946. Arab countries avoid the topic because they would rather Hashemites in control than palestinians.

 

 

Well said.

On 8/2/2025 at 3:46 AM, MicroB said:

 

It might given the UK and France are on board

Seriously ? No one who matters cares what the UK and France do.

16 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Seriously ? No one who matters cares what the UK and France do.

 

The irony of it too. Don't the armchair socialists constantly decry the UK and France for the colonial designs in the region after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, and their response in 1956 when Egypt nationalized the Suez Canal and tossed the Europeans out? And now, the UK and France are hailed as champions of arab sovereignty?

Maybe would be helpful if some of these Gulf states took in some Palestine refugees but they wont

Most of them talk the talk but won't do the walk 😒 

On 7/31/2025 at 3:30 PM, 300sd said:

I agree. I guess some of the Arab world are tired of Hamas so it's a step in the right direction. 

 

Hamas is the trouble maker among Arab states.

Using Palestinian refugees as Human Shield, in return of providing them with some aid.

On 7/31/2025 at 5:21 PM, billd766 said:

Yet those "brave" Arab countries won't even allow Palestinian women, children or babies into their countries.

 

Now if anyone would dare to suggest that they give up all their weapons and control of their countries, then you would hear the screams of protest.

 

So far only Jordan and the UAE have provided 1 aircraft each for food drops.

 

Those "rich" countries seem to have given no help at all.

Arab in name only. 

Could it be a certain tangerine-colored world leader has been setting up favors that he hopes will result in him getting a Nobel Peace Prize?