3 hours ago, mikeymike100 said:

How do, could you elucidate?

It was a question.  Some seem to think there's "two-tier" justice in the UK, and only those on the right get arrested/prosecuted.  It is, of course, nonsense.

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No, facts are.

The Terrorism Act 2000’s definition of terrorism—specifically, actions involving serious property damage or violence intended to influence government policy or intimidate the public. Key incidents include:

RAF Brize Norton Infiltration (June 2025): Activists broke into the UK’s largest airbase, vandalizing two military aircraft with red paint, causing £7 million in damage. This was cited as a major catalyst for the proscription.

Campaign Against Defense Firms: The group targeted companies like Elbit Systems, accused of supplying weapons to Israel, through break-ins, vandalism (e.g., spray-painting, smashing windows), and blockades. These actions disrupted operations and caused significant financial loss.

One of Chompers mates on the inside

 

 

25 minutes ago, proton said:

One of Chompers mates on the inside

 

 

This guy is off his proverbial rocker..???

Evidence supports 500–1,000 attendees, with Defend Our Juries’ 1,000+ being the highest estimate, contested by police and media. No primary source (police, organizers, or news) supports 10,000, suggesting an exaggeration, possibly to emphasize the protest’s scale or policing response

44 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

The Terrorism Act 2000’s definition of terrorism—specifically, actions involving serious property damage or violence intended to influence government policy or intimidate the public. Key incidents include:

RAF Brize Norton Infiltration (June 2025): Activists broke into the UK’s largest airbase, vandalizing two military aircraft with red paint, causing £7 million in damage. This was cited as a major catalyst for the proscription.

Campaign Against Defense Firms: The group targeted companies like Elbit Systems, accused of supplying weapons to Israel, through break-ins, vandalism (e.g., spray-painting, smashing windows), and blockades. These actions disrupted operations and caused significant financial loss.

So which members of PA have been charged with acts of terrorism, and please provide a link to the charges laid.

42 minutes ago, proton said:

One of Chompers mates on the inside

 

 

There you go with another of your baseless allegations.

 

 

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

There you go with another of your baseless allegations.

 

 

 

It's a joke comrade, you know a bit of a larf

17 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

This guy is off his proverbial rocker..???

Evidence supports 500–1,000 attendees, with Defend Our Juries’ 1,000+ being the highest estimate, contested by police and media. No primary source (police, organizers, or news) supports 10,000, suggesting an exaggeration, possibly to emphasize the protest’s scale or policing response

 

It's called satire, he was taking the pee saying 10k

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Can you please provide a link to these acts of terrorism by Palestine Action Group. 

 

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/four-pro-palestinian-activists-charged-over-uk-military-base-break-in-2025-07-03/

 

The government was right to label these enemies of the British state a terrorist organization. One of the few positive things they have done. 

 

FYI showing support for terrorists online is a serious business Chomps. Your Guardian subscription and Palestine flag may not be an adequate defense.  

18 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

So which members of PA have been charged with acts of terrorism, and please provide a link to the charges laid.

The members of Palestine Action charged with acts of terrorism following the RAF Brize Norton incident on June 20, 2025, are:

Amy Gardiner-Gibson, 29

Jony Cink, 24

Daniel Jeronymides-Norie, 35

Lewie Chiaramello, 22

Muhammad Umer Khalid, 22

They were charged with conspiracy to commit criminal damage and conspiracy to enter a prohibited place for a purpose prejudicial to the safety or interests of the UK under the Terrorism Act 2000. These charges stem from the incident where two RAF Voyager aircraft were damaged with red paint and crowbars, causing an estimated £7 million in damage.Additionally, since Palestine Action was proscribed as a terrorist organization on July 5, 2025, under Section 3 of the Terrorism Act 2000, other individuals have been arrested for terrorism-related offenses, primarily for showing support for the group. As of August 7, 2025, 10 people have been charged with terrorism offenses, including:

One person arrested under Section 11 (membership of a proscribed organization).

58 people arrested under Section 12 (inviting or recklessly expressing support for a proscribed organization or arranging meetings).

162 people arrested under Section 13 or 13A (wearing or displaying articles, or publishing images, that arouse reasonable suspicion of membership or support for a proscribed organization).

 

https://www.counterterrorism.police.uk/statement-on-palestine-action/

 

https://www.itv.com/news/meridian/2025-06-27/four-people-arrested-after-break-in-at-raf-brize-norton

Where's that Subway sandwich when you need it?

28 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/four-pro-palestinian-activists-charged-over-uk-military-base-break-in-2025-07-03/

 

The government was right to label these enemies of the British state a terrorist organization. One of the few positive things they have done. 

 

FYI showing support for terrorists online is a serious business Chomps. Your Guardian subscription and Palestine flag may not be an adequate defense.  

Thank you for the link Jonny, I’ve added the BBC report of their appearance in court from which we learn:

 

“Four suspects aged between 22 and 35 appeared at Westminster Magistrates' Court on Thursday charged with conspiracy to commit criminal damage, and conspiracy to enter a prohibited place knowingly for a purpose prejudicial to the safety or interests of the UK, Counter Terrorism Policing South East said.”

 

Note they are not charged with terrorism offenses.

So I’ll ask again, does anyone have evidence of PA committing terrorist offenses?

 

 

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly1jejw4xeo

 

22 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

The members of Palestine Action charged with acts of terrorism following the RAF Brize Norton incident on June 20, 2025, are:

Amy Gardiner-Gibson, 29

Jony Cink, 24

Daniel Jeronymides-Norie, 35

Lewie Chiaramello, 22

Muhammad Umer Khalid, 22

They were charged with conspiracy to commit criminal damage and conspiracy to enter a prohibited place for a purpose prejudicial to the safety or interests of the UK under the Terrorism Act 2000. These charges stem from the incident where two RAF Voyager aircraft were damaged with red paint and crowbars, causing an estimated £7 million in damage.Additionally, since Palestine Action was proscribed as a terrorist organization on July 5, 2025, under Section 3 of the Terrorism Act 2000, other individuals have been arrested for terrorism-related offenses, primarily for showing support for the group. As of August 7, 2025, 10 people have been charged with terrorism offenses, including:

One person arrested under Section 11 (membership of a proscribed organization).

58 people arrested under Section 12 (inviting or recklessly expressing support for a proscribed organization or arranging meetings).

162 people arrested under Section 13 or 13A (wearing or displaying articles, or publishing images, that arouse reasonable suspicion of membership or support for a proscribed organization).

 

https://www.counterterrorism.police.uk/statement-on-palestine-action/

 

https://www.itv.com/news/meridian/2025-06-27/four-people-arrested-after-break-in-at-raf-brize-norton

There are no charges of acts of terrorism against PA members.

 

Post linking to Palestine Action Group support deleted - Broken link, but it implied a link to proscribed terrorist group under UK law

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/proscribed-terror-groups-or-organisations--2/proscribed-terrorist-groups-or-organisations-accessible-version

 

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Why do so many UK politicians feel the need to appease the Israeli government?

56 minutes ago, Maybole said:

Why do so many UK politicians feel the need to appease the Israeli government?

 

First Class travel, trips to Israel, all expenses paid.

 

Conservatives friends of Israel: https://cfoi.co.uk/aboutcfi/

 

Labour friends of Israel: https://www.lfi.org.uk/

 

https://www.declassifieduk.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/All-Party-Israel-Lobby-Full-List-Edited.pdf

1 hour ago, Maybole said:

Why do so many UK politicians feel the need to appease the Israeli government?

Have you never heard of Lord Cashpoint or Sir Trevor Chinn?
 

38 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

First Class travel, trips to Israel, all expenses paid.

 

Conservatives friends of Israel: https://cfoi.co.uk/aboutcfi/

 

Labour friends of Israel: https://www.lfi.org.uk/

 

https://www.declassifieduk.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/All-Party-Israel-Lobby-Full-List-Edited.pdf

Corrupt as hell and CFI will not say how they are funded, but it pretty bloody obviously from a Israel.

 

https://www.europereloaded.com/israel-lobby-funded-a-third-of-conservative-mps/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

There is no Palestine and never was, so no action needed. The Quran never mentions Palestine even once for a reason.

2 hours ago, Maybole said:

Why do so many UK politicians feel the need to appease the Israeli government?

 

Support is not appeasement 

20 minutes ago, proton said:

There is no Palestine and never was, so no action needed. The Quran never mentions Palestine even once for a reason.

Dismissing the existence of Palestine based on whether it’s mentioned in the Quran is like saying the United States didn’t exist before 1776 because it wasn’t in the Bible. Historical and political realities aren't determined by the content of religious texts.

Palestine has been a recognized geographic and cultural region for centuries, referenced by Greeks, Romans, Ottomans, the British, and many others. It existed under the British Mandate, and before that under the Ottoman Empire. Even the UN uses the term.

6 hours ago, proton said:

There is no Palestine and never was, so no action needed. The Quran never mentions Palestine even once for a reason.

The Quran doesn’t mention you either but I believe you exist.

15 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

There are no charges of acts of terrorism against PA members.

 

 

15 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Thank you for the link Jonny, I’ve added the BBC report of their appearance in court from which we learn:

 

“Four suspects aged between 22 and 35 appeared at Westminster Magistrates' Court on Thursday charged with conspiracy to commit criminal damage, and conspiracy to enter a prohibited place knowingly for a purpose prejudicial to the safety or interests of the UK, Counter Terrorism Policing South East said.”

 

Note they are not charged with terrorism offenses.

So I’ll ask again, does anyone have evidence of PA committing terrorist offenses?

 

 

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly1jejw4xeo

 

While the BBC article itself does not label these charges as "terrorism" offenses, the charge under the National Security Act 2023 implies a terrorism-related context, as this legislation addresses acts that threaten national security, which can include terrorism. Additionally, other sources, such as the Counter Terrorism Policing South East statement, explicitly note that the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) is presenting evidence of a "terrorist connection" under the Terrorism Act 2000 for these charges. The proscription of Palestine Action as a terrorist organization on July 5, 2025, further frames these charges in a terrorism context, though this occurred after the BBC article’s publication.

The absence of the word "terrorism" in the July 3 BBC article may reflect cautious reporting, as the charges were still under judicial review, and the proscription of Palestine Action as a terrorist group had not yet occurred. However, the broader context from other sources, including later arrests and the group’s proscription, confirms that terrorism-related charges are part of the legal proceedings against these individuals.

The absence of the word "terrorism" in the July 3 BBC article may reflect cautious reporting, as the charges were still under judicial review, and the proscription of Palestine Action as a terrorist group had not yet occurred. However, the broader context from other sources, including later arrests and the group’s proscription, confirms that terrorism-related charges are part of the legal proceedings against these individuals.

 

Counter Terrorism Policing: https://www.counterterrorism.police.uk/statement-on-palestine-action/

 

7 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The Quran doesn’t mention you either but I believe you exist.

 

Silly comment, the Quran mentions the children of Israel 43 times and indicates Allah gave then their homeland. So how come they are accused of illegally occupying it 1400 hundred years later? Palestine has never existed, made up as a cause by Arafat in the 1960's.

13 hours ago, JimCM said:

Dismissing the existence of Palestine based on whether it’s mentioned in the Quran is like saying the United States didn’t exist before 1776 because it wasn’t in the Bible. Historical and political realities aren't determined by the content of religious texts.

Palestine has been a recognized geographic and cultural region for centuries, referenced by Greeks, Romans, Ottomans, the British, and many others. It existed under the British Mandate, and before that under the Ottoman Empire. Even the UN uses the term.

 

Same old lies, it has never been a country, and never will be unless another country is renamed Palestine

On 8/28/2025 at 8:32 AM, SingAPorn said:

The dictatorship seems "en route" in the UK. 

Nooooo, that's in the U.S.A..................😉

4 hours ago, proton said:

 

Silly comment, the Quran mentions the children of Israel 43 times and indicates Allah gave then their homeland. So how come they are accused of illegally occupying it 1400 hundred years later? Palestine has never existed, made up as a cause by Arafat in the 1960's.

You’re an odd fish Proton.

 

You can always be relied upon to rant against the teachings of Islam and yet here you are trying to use them as the foundation of your argument.

 

 

17 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You’re an odd fish Proton.

 

You can always be relied upon to rant against the teachings of Islam and yet here you are trying to use them as the foundation of your argument.

 

 

 

Even a broken clock is right twice a day, and Islam is very broken. Islam is our enemy, not our friend.

10 hours ago, mikeymike100 said:

 

While the BBC article itself does not label these charges as "terrorism" offenses, the charge under the National Security Act 2023 implies a terrorism-related context, as this legislation addresses acts that threaten national security, which can include terrorism. Additionally, other sources, such as the Counter Terrorism Policing South East statement, explicitly note that the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) is presenting evidence of a "terrorist connection" under the Terrorism Act 2000 for these charges. The proscription of Palestine Action as a terrorist organization on July 5, 2025, further frames these charges in a terrorism context, though this occurred after the BBC article’s publication.

The absence of the word "terrorism" in the July 3 BBC article may reflect cautious reporting, as the charges were still under judicial review, and the proscription of Palestine Action as a terrorist group had not yet occurred. However, the broader context from other sources, including later arrests and the group’s proscription, confirms that terrorism-related charges are part of the legal proceedings against these individuals.

The absence of the word "terrorism" in the July 3 BBC article may reflect cautious reporting, as the charges were still under judicial review, and the proscription of Palestine Action as a terrorist group had not yet occurred. However, the broader context from other sources, including later arrests and the group’s proscription, confirms that terrorism-related charges are part of the legal proceedings against these individuals.

 

Counter Terrorism Policing: https://www.counterterrorism.police.uk/statement-on-palestine-action/

 

And yet zero charges relating to terrorism.

 

 

16 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And yet zero charges relating to terrorism.

 

 

The five individuals were charged with:

Conspiracy to commit criminal damage (Criminal Law Act 1977).

Conspiracy to enter a prohibited place (National Security Act 2023).

Muhammad Umer Khalid also faced a charge under Section 41 of the Terrorism Act 2000 for “commission, preparation, or instigation of acts of terrorism,” directly tying his case to terrorism.

The proscription of Palestine Action as a terrorist organization on July 5, 2025, after the BBC article, further frames these charges as terrorism-related, as the group’s actions (e.g., £7 million in damage to RAF aircraft) were cited as meeting the UK’s terrorism definition, which includes serious property damage to intimidate or influence.