4 minutes ago, angryguy said:

The UK will collapse for sure but not because of racism, you can be sure of that

 

 

It hadn't collapsed before the Brexit vote, and despite the Brexit mess we've manage to even out over the past couple of years.

 

So are we now really going to collapse the pound and let that idiot come and ruin everything again ?

 

Honestly it's insanity. But people get the outcome they deserve. 

 

What is a mind numb though is the reform racist voters in Pattaya. These guys will lose out with lower pensions with the exchange rate. Crazy. Immigration in the UK doesn't even effect them. 

10 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The UK needs to train its own Doctors and nurses , rather than taking them from other Countries 

It does, but even if the UK has enough young people interested in those careers training them is not going to happen over night.

 

And that’s only the tip of the iceberg, the UK has a growing and already critical need for care workers for the aged population.

 

15 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

If you are not going to offer any benefits to come to Britian, people will go elsewhere.

 

A good plan.

 

People shouldn't be coming to the UK for " Benefits "

 

They should be coming to be " A benefit " to the UK.

 

You will struggle to work that one out. Dont worry about it too much, you won't be the only one.

It seems Farage hasn’t learned anything from the Windrush debacle.

 

Or maybe he has. 
 

 

2 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

 

A good plan.

 

People shouldn't be coming to the UK for " Benefits "

 

They should be coming to be " A benefit " to the UK.

 

You will struggle to work that one out. Dont worry about it too much, you won't be the only one.

The vast majority of immigrants to the UK are working and contributing.

 

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The vast majority of immigrants to the UK are working and contributing.

 

 

Source ?
 

1 million foreigners claiming £7.5 Billion a year, in UC alone, seems to suggest otherwise.

 

Are you  going to try and tell me that London enclave of 150k Somalians are all in genuine paid employment ?

 

You need to stop stop talking cack.

On 9/28/2025 at 8:45 PM, angryguy said:

Khan and starmer using the word racist too much. Even stupid people are starting to catch on

It’s like Tourette syndrome.   They can’t help it.  

Funny.

 

A few hours after Starmer denounced this as "RACIST", Shabana Mahmood announced a virtually identical scheme. 😃

 

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/migrants-meet-good-citizen-standard-101812138.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAL9QkbbOucao00E-xib3mjEsjmm60_Rn-ZohGp_gFD6Ssu2Jww4ocSDqMNC0SbpJBuifzRmMZF97AcJzdCPFYSSPr_pRpQL120FsW1C44mTWd2MgyMa9oI2jqLURgKSolSxOxzajJtAGH-yBP_jQmst5i5sJLYbGIAq8J97xPjL2

 

What a bunch of clowns.

9 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Starmer and Labour are refusing to listen to  people. Farage is popular because he is listening and  offering a viable option.

The negative impact of Brexit has a lot more to do with the failures of the people of the UK than anything else. The financial and manufacturing conglomerates failed to invest in the UK , and the people of the UK wanted a free ride. The fact that 

France and Belgium  have been petty and vindictive, attempting to  extort the UK, has not helped matters. The fundamental changes needed to support Brexit have not been made in large part because too many UK citizens expect to be subsidized and to receive generous social benefits despite not contributing anything to the nation.

 

Always excuses about why Brexit was a failure. It was always going be a failure no matter what.

7 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

 

Source ?
 

1 million foreigners claiming £7.5 Billion a year, in UC alone, seems to suggest otherwise.

 

Are you  going to try and tell me that London enclave of 150k Somalians are all in genuine paid employment ?

 

You need to stop stop talking cack.

 

“Research indicates that immigrants paid approximately £20 billion in taxes in 2020, which is substantially higher than the costs associated with public services they utilise.”

 

https://www.davidsonmorris.com/immigrants-economic-contributions/
 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/915732/immigrant-employment-rate-uk/

34 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

 

“Research indicates that immigrants paid approximately £20 billion in taxes in 2020, which is substantially higher than the costs associated with public services they utilise.”

 

https://www.davidsonmorris.com/immigrants-economic-contributions/
 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/915732/immigrant-employment-rate-uk/

 

Brilliant

 

Now instead of looking atPublic Services, how about looking at " Benefits drawn "

 

Universal Credit alone seems to be around £7.5 Billion a year. 

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/915732/immigrant-employment-rate-uk/

 

Employment rates do not really mean much. When the UK doesn't have a clue how many people are in the UK.

 

The employment rate also shows that a combined total of around 45% of EU and Foreign Nationals are not in Employment

 

That is a lot of people not in Employment. Them Damned Statistics again.

Quote

Ms Mahmood, meanwhile, used her first speech to conference as home secretary to dramatically redraw the immigration compact. She proposed raising the threshold for indefinite leave to remain (ILR) from five years to 10. Controversially, she also said successful applicants would be required to have no criminal record, speak English to a high standard, be in work, receive no benefits, and give back to their community. Contribution, it seems, would determine settlement.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/29/the-guardian-view-on-labours-tough-talk-on-spending-and-migration-it-could-cost-the-party-core-support

 

Mahmood is in the wrong party. She should join Reform.

 

The nasty, racist, little Englander that she is.

 

Labour voters flocking to the Lib Dums and the Jezbollah Party 😀😀

1 hour ago, The Cyclist said:

 

Brilliant

 

Now instead of looking atPublic Services, how about looking at " Benefits drawn "

 

Universal Credit alone seems to be around £7.5 Billion a year. 

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/915732/immigrant-employment-rate-uk/

 

Employment rates do not really mean much. When the UK doesn't have a clue how many people are in the UK.

 

The employment rate also shows that a combined total of around 45% of EU and Foreign Nationals are not in Employment

 

That is a lot of people not in Employment. Them Damned Statistics again.

Brilliant says the guy who can’t do basic arithmetic.

 

There are no credible reports or studies indicating immigrants cost the UK more than they contribute.

 

 

51 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

There are no credible reports or studies indicating immigrants cost the UK more than they contribute.

 

 

Is that why you ignored this with a 10 foot barge pole ?
 

3 hours ago, The Cyclist said:

Are you  going to try and tell me that London enclave of 150k Somalians are all in genuine paid employment ?

 

Let's take that a step further. And widen the circle from London centric to England wide.

 

For the benefit of the terminally blinkered, or those that cannot accept facts.

 

Some immigrants are a net gain for the UK. Some immigrants are a net drain on the UK.

 

Do not embarrass yourself, by trying to claim, or infer, that all immigrants are beneficial to the UK.

 

Over 70% are in Social Housing

 

Over 10% are claiming unemployment benefits

 

Over 50% are economically inactive.

 

A % are residing in various prisons, for sex pestery.

 

Overall, the Somalian immigrants are a net drain on the UK.

 

I think you need a bigger barge pole.

5 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

 

Is that why you ignored this with a 10 foot barge pole ?
 

 

Let's take that a step further. And widen the circle from London centric to England wide.

 

For the benefit of the terminally blinkered, or those that cannot accept facts.

 

Some immigrants are a net gain for the UK. Some immigrants are a net drain on the UK.

 

Do not embarrass yourself, by trying to claim, or infer, that all immigrants are beneficial to the UK.

 

Over 70% are in Social Housing

 

Over 10% are claiming unemployment benefits

 

Over 50% are economically inactive.

 

A % are residing in various prisons, for sex pestery.

 

Overall, the Somalian immigrants are a net drain on the UK.

 

I think you need a bigger barge pole.

You really did struggle with didn’t you:

 

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

There are no credible reports or studies indicating immigrants cost the UK more than they contribute.

 

 

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

You really did struggle with didn’t you:

 

No, I am not struggling with anything.

 

I gave you facts and figures from the Government, the DWP and the ONS, regarding Somalis in England.

 

Not for the first time. The only person struggling, is you.

26 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

 

No, I am not struggling with anything.

 

I gave you facts and figures from the Government, the DWP and the ONS, regarding Somalis in England.

 

Not for the first time. The only person struggling, is you.

You have not provided any ‘facts’ disputing the actual fact that immigrants are net positive contributors to the UK economy.

 

 

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The vast majority of immigrants to the UK are working and contributing.

 

 

Well in that case then there will be hardly anyone for Farage to deport will there?  So on that basis, why complain about it?  Or do you have no confidence in your own statement and recognize it for the lie that it is? 

The cost of mass migration has been concealed from the public

Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) forecasts – and indeed the Government’s fiscal rules – are based on short-term windows and targets, and in part on optimistic Treasury spending plans that might be politely described as works of creative fiction.

Even very low-wage migration can be fiscally positive over these periods, or a slightly longer term. Most newcomers will be unable to claim benefits for a period of at least five years – the length of a typical OBR forecast window – and will make limited use of the NHS

OBR modelling suggests that a low-wage migrant arriving at 25 will pose a net cost to Britain of about £187,000 by the time they hit 65. Should they live to 85, that cost rises to £769,000, and by the age of 90 it exceeds £1m.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/07/17/we-are-still-not-being-told-the-true-costs-of-mass-migratio/

Even are horses are racist' look at the one far right🤔

32 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You have not provided any ‘facts’ disputing the actual fact that immigrants are net positive contributors to the UK economy.

 

 

 

What does this say, and mean

 

59 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

Some immigrants are a net gain for the UK. Some immigrants are a net drain on the UK.

 

Can you understand the above ?
 

Can you understand that 1 million foreigners are claiming £7.5 Bilion a year in Universal Credit.

 

Then you must also understand, that some immigrants are a drain, and we will probably never know the full extent of the Net Benefit / Net Drain argument

 

Until the Government / DWP publishes a full breakdown of benefit claimants.

 

Now take your deludamol and have a lie down.

33 minutes ago, James105 said:

Well in that case then there will be hardly anyone for Farage to deport will there?

 

And Mahmood is another lying trumpet, with her migrants need to contribute or go home.

 

 

6 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

 

How do you force people to become doctors ?

How do you force someone to become a nurse ?

 

 

   No need to force anyone to do anything .

That is rich coming from someone who is a traitor to the British people.

On 9/29/2025 at 8:13 AM, Purdey said:

Nigel Farage was paid £40,000 by American company Nomad Capitalist that helps the super rich cut tax bills - and helps people obtain second residencies and citizenships. Yes, how to become immigrants.

The company says it helps people “obtain a second residency and second citizenship to enhance your freedom and options”, including second residencies, dual citizenship, and tax residency.

Someone may say, yes, but they're white and rich so it's ok.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/farage-reform-tax-nomad-capitalist-b2730810.html

And whilst we are discussing Reform funding:-

'Overall, though the interests of the party’s wealthy backers are varied, there are common themes and a clear relationship between their political and commercial interests and Reform’s platform. Many stand to benefit significantly from an anti-net zero push, cutting back regulation in finance or energy, lower taxes on wealth and the liberalisation of crypto assets.'

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/reform-uk-funders-nigel-farage-5-million-donations-fossil-fuels-tax-havens/

Again, immigrants are demononised to distract from what the real agenda is - making money for himself and his wealthy backers.

The guy is a complete fraud and buggered up the UK through Brexit yet many here STILL think this idiot should run the country because, you know, 'brown people bad'.

8 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

 

WHY DO RACISTS WANT THE POUND TO COLLAPSE MORE ?

 

Mongering is already expensive out there. 

 

   Is you only concern your own ability to be able to afford prostitutes ?

You should think yourself lucky , some people back in the UK cannot afford to have sex at all 

5 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

because, you know, 'brown people bad'.

 

Any idea how stupid that comment is ? Especially on a Thai based forum, the vast majority of Thai's being a shade of brown.

 

But this probably explains it nicely

 

7 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

buggered up the UK through Brexit

 

The mong is strong.

28 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

 

What does this say, and mean

 

 

Can you understand the above ?
 

Can you understand that 1 million foreigners are claiming £7.5 Bilion a year in Universal Credit.

 

Then you must also understand, that some immigrants are a drain, and we will probably never know the full extent of the Net Benefit / Net Drain argument

 

Until the Government / DWP publishes a full breakdown of benefit claimants.

 

Now take your deludamol and have a lie down.

Once again you resort to ad hominem.

 

Come back when you have evidence of immigrants being a net cost to the UK economy.

 

 

There are already several cities in the UK that the call for Muslim's prayer wake people up at 5 am and there's

nothing you can do about it as they're the majority there, how lovely.

20 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

And whilst we are discussing Reform funding:-

'Overall, though the interests of the party’s wealthy backers are varied, there are common themes and a clear relationship between their political and commercial interests and Reform’s platform. Many stand to benefit significantly from an anti-net zero push, cutting back regulation in finance or energy, lower taxes on wealth and the liberalisation of crypto assets.'

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/reform-uk-funders-nigel-farage-5-million-donations-fossil-fuels-tax-havens/

Again, immigrants are demononised to distract from what the real agenda is - making money for himself and his wealthy backers.

The guy is a complete fraud and buggered up the UK through Brexit yet many here STILL think this idiot should run the country because, you know, 'brown people bad'.

The people voted for Brexit and that is why we supposedly got it. If being part of the EU is so good, how come the remaining members (most anyway) are in an even worse state than the UK? I guess you was a remainer which defined as someone who supports being told what they can and cannot do or buy.

I suggest you get over your fanaticism of wanting to remain. If the EU is so go why not go and live there>