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Starmer Slams Reform UK’s ‘Racist, Immoral’ Immigration Plan

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Just now, ezzra said:

There are already several cities in the UK that the call for Muslim's prayer wake people up at 5 am and there's

nothing you can do about it as they're the majority there, how lovely.

This was inevitable considering the morons we have in government.

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5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The vast majority of immigrants to the UK are working and contributing.

 

Over a Thousand crossed in a rubber boat on Saturday and Sunday Chomper were they coming to a job, or had a job to go to? How are these that arrived over the weekend contributing to the UK economy.

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9 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Once again you resort to ad hominem.

 

Dry your eyes

 

10 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Come back when you have evidence of immigrants being a net cost to the UK economy.

 

Somali immigrants

 

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Over 70% are in Social Housing

 

Over 10% are claiming unemployment benefits

 

Over 50% are economically inactive.

 

A % are residing in various prisons, for sex pestery.

 

Overall, the Somalian immigrants are a net drain on the UK.

 

You can check the Government website, the DWP website and the ONS websites.

 

A whole cohort of immigrants that are a drain on the UK, unless the above 3 are all telling lies and picking on the poor Somalians.

14 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Over a Thousand crossed in a rubber boat on Saturday and Sunday Chomper were they coming to a job, or had a job to go to? How are these that arrived over the weekend contributing to the UK economy.

Well, you lay in a bed that your leaders have made for you, so rest well, until 5am that is/ look at it positively,

now you have a chance to learn another language, right?

Last week a plane loaded with Romanian thieve's rapists and murder's were deported. Once onboard they were handed a cash card with 2k free money not to return to the UK. Pathetic. Mahmood has said people coming to the UK will have suffiecent funds, good English speaking a passport etc. Will she be on the beach once the boats arrive checking who is eligible to enter. And all through the speaches at the labour conference Rerorm and Farage was mentioned the Cons or lib dems never got a mention. Starmer knows where the threat is coming from and he knows he's a dead man walking.

Welcome to Leicester.

 

 

2 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Welcome to Leicester.

 

 

And in Bournmouth.

 

Starmer Least Popular British Prime Minister on Record, Poll Finds

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2025/09/28/starmer-least-popular-british-prime-minister-on-record-poll-finds/

 

How is it that the good citizens of the UK voted for a left wing globalist that wants to change the UK into a third world country? I just do not understand this. It makes me heartbroken and very sad for this country. 

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2 hours ago, The Cyclist said:

 

Any idea how stupid that comment is ? Especially on a Thai based forum, the vast majority of Thai's being a shade of brown.

 

But this probably explains it nicely

 

 

The mong is strong.

You know full well what I mean by 'brown people' and it's not about Thai's - although outlawing ILR could definitely effect any one of you trying to take your Thai partner back to the UK.  

1 hour ago, dutch boy said:

Starmer Least Popular British Prime Minister on Record, Poll Finds

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2025/09/28/starmer-least-popular-british-prime-minister-on-record-poll-finds/

 

How is it that the good citizens of the UK voted for a left wing globalist that wants to change the UK into a third world country? I just do not understand this. It makes me heartbroken and very sad for this country. 

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Well as the people chant on the protest marches.

Starmer is a xxxxxxxxxxxxx   feel free to fill in the blank.

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2 hours ago, The Cyclist said:

Any idea how stupid that comment is ? Especially on a Thai based forum, the vast majority of Thai's being a shade of brown.

 

The Wokerati on this forum hate it when it is pointed out that nearly all of the "Racists" they denounce are in fact married or in long term relationships with Asians, many with mixed race children.

 

Apparently, to them Thais do not count. The wrong shade of brown, or something... 😄 

23 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

You know full well what I mean by 'brown people'

 

Are Thais not differing shades of " Brown " ?
 

To quote @JonnyF

 

18 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Apparently, to them Thais do not count. The wrong shade of brown, or something... 😄 

 

You said it.... You own it.

22 minutes ago, quake said:

 

Well as the people chant on the protest marches.

Starmer is a xxxxxxxxxxxxx   feel free to fill in the blank.

 

2 / 3rds of Labour members ( Not sure how many members they now have 😀😀 ) prefer Burnam to Starmer.

 

2 / 3rds of the electorate would prefer a cabbage to Starmer.

2 hours ago, Photoguy21 said:

The people voted for Brexit and that is why we supposedly got it. If being part of the EU is so good, how come the remaining members (most anyway) are in an even worse state than the UK? I guess you was a remainer which defined as someone who supports being told what they can and cannot do or buy.

I suggest you get over your fanaticism of wanting to remain. If the EU is so go why not go and live there>

Spoken like a true Brexiter.

By any measure you care to use - economically, socially, culturally, science funding, security sharing, ease of travel in the EU etc, Brexit has been nothing short of a disaster AND it still didn't stop illegal immigrants from coming here (what you ALL based your vote on) and in fact made things much, much worse. By not being a part of the Dublin III Regulation (the core principle of which is that the first EU member country or associated state a person enters is responsible for processing their asylum request), the floodgates opened to the UK. Before 2017 there was no recorded small boat arrivals (ZERO, nada, zip). In 2018 it was 539, by 2019 it was approx. 1,900, in 2020 (Brexit start date) it was 8,417, but by 2021 (after the 1 year transition period) it suddenly jumped to 28,526 and has grown steadily to what we see now, with last year growing to a whopping 36,816 people.  

 

You lot literally shot yourself in the foot through Brexit and now you are all big fans of Farage, one of the main architects of it all. He promised you all that the UK would be the land of milk and honey and when it turned out to be the smelly pile of dog$hit we all told you it was going to be, he (like most on here) blamed everyone else for not providing the exit they wanted (much like you are trying to do with your post). Yet here you are all again, listening to his BS, believing his lies and willing to entertain a policy that would see people who have lived and been part of the UK for decades, who are neighbours and friends, who have family, businesses and a full life in the UK being ousted by the 100's of thousands.

 

It would be hilarious if it wasn't just so sad.

34 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

By not being a part of the Dublin III Regulation (the core principle of which is that the first EU member country or associated state a person enters is responsible for processing their asylum request), the floodgates opened to the UK.

 

That Dublin Regulation that Merkel unilaterally halted

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34402001

 

It has never been fully re-implemented 

 

Which is why the boats started in 2018.

 

Stop trying to rewrite history.

19 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The UK needs to train its own Doctors and nurses , rather than taking them from other Countries 

 

Maybe they should train the home-grown ones they have not to go on strike first.

8 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

So doubling the ILR qualification period to ten years is "virtually identical" to canceling it altogether and deporting people?

 

Are you a Ringling or Barnum & Bailey's alumni?

26 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

 

That Dublin Regulation that Merkel unilaterally halted

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34402001

 

It has never been fully re-implemented 

 

Which is why the boats started in 2018.

 

Stop trying to rewrite history.

Not sure if you know this but Merkel wasn't the UK PM. What she did in Germany was her prerogative and had no bearing on the UK. Leaving the EU however DID have a bearing on the UK as the Dublin Regulation no longer applied to the UK. The Dublin Agreement (soon to be renamed the Asylum and Migration Management Regulation (AMMR) is still in effect for all EU member states. Just not the UK.

 

Nice try, but no cigar.

  

6 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

Not sure if you know this but Merkel wasn't the UK PM.

 

Where did I say she was ?
 

I said she suspended the Dublin Regulation, that caused the start of the boat crossings on 2018.

 

And obviously you have never heard of the Sangatte Camps from the 90's. When the UK was a part of the EU.

 

I am not sure you actually know what the Dublin Regulation is. If it was being enforced, none of these fake asylum seekers would be coming across the channel, from 2018.

23 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

 

Where did I say she was ?
 

I said she suspended the Dublin Regulation, that caused the start of the boat crossings on 2018.

 

And obviously you have never heard of the Sangatte Camps from the 90's. When the UK was a part of the EU.

 

I am not sure you actually know what the Dublin Regulation is. If it was being enforced, none of these fake asylum seekers would be coming across the channel, from 2018.

Merkel did what she did in 2015 and it was only for Germany. The agreement still stood for all other EU members.
As I’ve already stated, up to 2017 there was NO boat crossings to the UK so how her actions are to blame for what happened 3 years later is a big leap of logic. But let’s say you are right and it did have an effect - that effect was minuscule compared to Brexit with numbers jumping some 500% after the UK left the EU and the Dublin Agreement. 
You are trying to tenuously associate correlation with causation when it’s obvious Brexit was the real problem. 
And Sangatte camps closed in 2002 on the behest of France after the UK agreed to take more asylum seekers. And asylum seekers still have more than 70% approval rates. The other 30% did not and should have been returned. No sensible Brit thinks that every single immigrant should be automatically allowed to stay, but that’s what courts are for and half the issue is these courts can’t process quick enough due to a backlog stemming from Covid. 
Sensible immigration control is the answer but this hysteria whipped up by the likes of Farage does not provide the solutions you all think it does as was proven 100% by Brexit which was entirely based on immigrant scaremongering for which Farage got you all to believe and for which NOTHING has changed. In fact it’s got worse. 
 

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

The Wokerati on this forum hate it when it is pointed out that nearly all of the "Racists" they denounce are in fact married or in long term relationships with Asians, many with mixed race children.

 

Apparently, to them Thais do not count. The wrong shade of brown, or something... 😄 


You didn’t know about white supremacists and their thing about Asian women?

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/gender-identity/the-alt-right-likes-asian-american-women-we-shouldnt-be-surprised/

24 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

Merkel did what she did in 2015 and it was only for Germany. The agreement still stood for all other EU members.

 

My Gawd.

 

She suspended it across the EU, because Greece and Italy couldn't deal with the hordes arriving.

 

You are still trying to rewrite history

 

25 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

You are trying to tenuously associate correlation with causation when it’s obvious Brexit was the real problem. 

 

Take a long, hard, look in a mirror.

19 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

 

My Gawd.

 

She suspended it across the EU, because Greece and Italy couldn't deal with the hordes arriving.

 

 

And how could the Chancellor of Germany suspend it for the WHOLE of the EU? The answer is simple. She couldn't. She did it for Germany. Undoubtedly this had an effect on the rest of the EU but 'She suspended it across the EU' is patently false.

25 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

And how could the Chancellor of Germany suspend it for the WHOLE of the EU? The answer is simple. She couldn't. She did it for Germany.

 

😀😀😀

 

For Germany ?
 

No, she suspended it due to the Hordes arriving in Greece, Italy and Hungary. 
 

Which had nothing to do with Germany, and if a suspension was warranted, should have come from the EU Commission and not Merkel.

 

But that is probably a bit beyond your comprehension.

2 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

 

😀😀😀

 

For Germany ?
 

No, she suspended it due to the Hordes arriving in Greece, Italy and Hungary. 
 

Which had nothing to do with Germany, and if a suspension was warranted, should have come from the EU Commission and not Merkel.

 

But that is probably a bit beyond your comprehension.

So your saying she personally suspended it because of 'the Hordes arriving in Greece, Italy and Hungary' to allow nearly a million immigrants into Germany? Correct?. 

 

But doesn;t this contravene your next statement that that any suspension 'should have come from the EU Commission and not Merkel?' and also negates your previous position of 'She suspended it across the EU' How can she personally suspend it when it needs the EU commision to do so?

 

I think you are getting confused. Yes, she suspended it FOR GERMANY (and pehaps this was because of issues in ' Greece, Italy and Hungary)' but she could not unilaterally suspend this for the EU. That's just not within her jurisdiction. 

 

33 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

So your saying she personally suspended it because of 'the Hordes arriving in Greece, Italy and Hungary' to allow nearly a million immigrants into Germany? Correct?. 

 

Anyone who starts a rant with the word " So "  is not worthy of continued debate.

 

 

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A few weeks ago, as tens of thousands of migrants waited at Hungary's Austrian border, Angela Merkel allowed to them to travel, unregistered, into Germany by temporarily suspending the Dublin protocol that requires asylum seekers to register in the first EU state they enter.

 

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34402001

 

What had unregistered illegals on Hungary's border got  to do with Merkel ? Or Greece, or Italy ?

 

Off you pop, rocket.

5 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

Spoken like a true Brexiter.

By any measure you care to use - economically, socially, culturally, science funding, security sharing, ease of travel in the EU etc, Brexit has been nothing short of a disaster AND it still didn't stop illegal immigrants from coming here (what you ALL based your vote on) and in fact made things much, much worse. By not being a part of the Dublin III Regulation (the core principle of which is that the first EU member country or associated state a person enters is responsible for processing their asylum request), the floodgates opened to the UK. Before 2017 there was no recorded small boat arrivals (ZERO, nada, zip). In 2018 it was 539, by 2019 it was approx. 1,900, in 2020 (Brexit start date) it was 8,417, but by 2021 (after the 1 year transition period) it suddenly jumped to 28,526 and has grown steadily to what we see now, with last year growing to a whopping 36,816 people.  

 

You lot literally shot yourself in the foot through Brexit and now you are all big fans of Farage, one of the main architects of it all. He promised you all that the UK would be the land of milk and honey and when it turned out to be the smelly pile of dog$hit we all told you it was going to be, he (like most on here) blamed everyone else for not providing the exit they wanted (much like you are trying to do with your post). Yet here you are all again, listening to his BS, believing his lies and willing to entertain a policy that would see people who have lived and been part of the UK for decades, who are neighbours and friends, who have family, businesses and a full life in the UK being ousted by the 100's of thousands.

 

It would be hilarious if it wasn't just so sad.

Get into your head once and for all Johnnybangkok we were promissed we would be able rule our Country how we rule it not from MPs in Brussels judging us. We wanted to kick out people who had no right to be in the UK ie we would not be told by the ECHR who we could throw out thats the main reason we wanted out but we were lied to now we have to pay watching thousands crossing the Chennel weekly.

How many incoming and outgoing transfers are there under Dublin III?

According to Home Office figures, between 2015 and 2018, 7,365 incoming requests were made to transfer people into the UK under the Dublin regulation, from which 2,365 people were transferred to the UK (some requests may still be pending).  

This means that the UK accepted around 33% of requests. During the same period, the UK made 18,953 outgoing requests to transfer people to other Member States, from which 1,395 people were transferred abroad. This amounts to around 7% of outgoing requests by the UK resulting in a transfer.  

In 2018, the UK received a total of 37,453 asylum applications, and made 5,510 outgoing transfer requests under Dublin III. Of these 5,510 requests, 209 migrants were transferred out of the UK under Dublin III, whilst 1,215 came in, making the UK a net recipient in 2018.  

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/what-is-the-dublin-iii-regulation-will-it-be-affected-by-brexit/

Returns were very low when the UK was in the EU

Abolishing ILR would deeply affect people who’ve built their lives in the UK, which is why Starmer is pushing back strongly. Labour’s approach to extend the qualifying period seems tough but still protects lawful long term residents.

10 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   No need to force anyone to do anything .

 

Then i don't get your equation.

 

You said we don't need to hire doctors from abroad, as we can train our own.

 

But the reason we have to hire from abroad because we have a lack of people wanting to become doctors in our own country (alot of countries have this issue).

 

Your solution was we 'train the local population'. 

 

I then said how do we force the local population to become doctors. 

 

You answered by saying we don't have to. 

 

So your solution will mean we have no doctors.

 

 

You don't have a clue do you ? 

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