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The historical background of Ukraine

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11 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Poppycock.

A country defending its very existence as a sovereign nation against an evil barbaric power trying to erase them is not promoting war. It's Putin who is promoting this war. If he stops without winning, he dies. It's a war about regime survival for him. For Ukraine it's a war about national survival. 

This sovereign nation for decades wasn't able to tidy up their geopolitical matters. Instead for decades toremented russian language minorities,  for decades allowed the country to be run by criminals, thieves, cowards and finally comedian. For decades kept this rotten, corrupted and shady system alive. For decades was ignoring or trying to hide their awful, vile and embarrassing history. For decades cultivated nazi ideology and cherished genocidals like bandera, shukhevytch and that sort of beasts. 

What you offer here is a typical historical relativism and binary thinking. Ukraine for years was trying to build their country on lies, crimes, corruption ad wrongdoing. Events in 2014 was a nail in their coffin. I wonder when this parasite finally stop deceiving whole world and stop suck money from taxpayers from other countries while trying to defeat Russia by the hands of other nations - mostly by selling lies.

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10 minutes ago, t0mt0m said:

This sovereign nation for decades wasn't able to tidy up their geopolitical matters. Instead for decades toremented russian language minorities,  for decades allowed the country to be run by criminals, thieves, cowards and finally comedian. For decades kept this rotten, corrupted and shady system alive. For decades was ignoring or trying to hide their awful, vile and embarrassing history. For decades cultivated nazi ideology and cherished genocidals like bandera, shukhevytch and that sort of beasts. 

What you offer here is a typical historical relativism and binary thinking. Ukraine for years was trying to build their country on lies, crimes, corruption ad wrongdoing. Events in 2014 was a nail in their coffin. I wonder when this parasite finally stop deceiving whole world and stop suck money from taxpayers from other countries while trying to defeat Russia by the hands of other nations - mostly by selling lies.

The Russian propaganda is intense in you.

8 hours ago, t0mt0m said:

This sovereign nation for decades wasn't able to tidy up their geopolitical matters. Instead for decades toremented russian language minorities,  for decades allowed the country to be run by criminals, thieves, cowards and finally comedian. For decades kept this rotten, corrupted and shady system alive. For decades was ignoring or trying to hide their awful, vile and embarrassing history. For decades cultivated nazi ideology and cherished genocidals like bandera, shukhevytch and that sort of beasts. 

What you offer here is a typical historical relativism and binary thinking. Ukraine for years was trying to build their country on lies, crimes, corruption ad wrongdoing. Events in 2014 was a nail in their coffin. I wonder when this parasite finally stop deceiving whole world and stop suck money from taxpayers from other countries while trying to defeat Russia by the hands of other nations - mostly by selling lies.

Time for Canada and Mexico to invade the US then.

13 hours ago, Fact said:

I agree.  Putin started a war he can't finish and will not back out of. 

Absolutely. Hes stuck in the Turnagain arm mudflats and the tide is coming in.

12 hours ago, Fact said:

The Russian propaganda is intense in you.

No mr Yoda, my opinion is based on knowledge, experience and first hand accounts from my family. Yours is founded on how media shaped you and told you what to think. Who's the victim of propaganda here ? :biggrin:

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