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What Do Ukraine Talks Reveal About Putin's Intentions?

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3 minutes ago, ericbj said:


Let each and everyone judge for themselves,

 

But tell me, are you a W.E.F. Deep State propagandist ?

 

Or just google-eyed from watching too much of the stuff they put out ?

 

Lot's to read and watch on Google, also some weirdos on here, all good fun though, eh.  🤗

 

But at the end of the day, a murdering aggressor dictator should not get away with it. eh.....😒

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32 minutes ago, transam said:

Lot's to read and watch on Google, also some weirdos on here, all good fun though, eh.  🤗

 

But at the end of the day, a murdering aggressor dictator should not get away with it. eh.....😒

 

For privacy reasons I use DuckDuckGo, but if it fails to find what I seek I use Google.  My commonly used browser, Firefox, prevents Google from tracking me.

 

But note that Google's search algorithms can give biassed results in certain areas, including one that is of interest to me.  See here:

 

https://www.nutraceuticalsworld.com/google-radically-restricts-the-flow-of-information-on-alternative-healthcare/

 

1 hour ago, transam said:

  🤗

But at the end of the day, a murdering aggressor dictator should not get away with it. eh.....😒

 

That's it in a nutshell, Trans.

 

Hope that you're well?

3 hours ago, RayC said:

The idea of watching 20+ mins of Yanis Varoufakis pontificate fills me with horror. His one claim to fame is that while in office he bankrupted his nation. Quite why anyone takes him seriously is beyond me.


You may prefer to listen to Colonel MacGregor, C.O. of an armoured unit during the Gulf War :

 

 

21 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

That's it in a nutshell, Trans.

 

Hope that you're well?

I am, Raymond, thanks for asking............😉

3 hours ago, candide said:

So, according to some, Putin wants peace and it's Ukraine and the EU being responsible for the war! What a load of crap! 🤣🤣🤣

 

Oooops, sorry, I forgot the military industrial complex! It seems to be very powerful in Russia, indeed! 🤣

 

Either your memory is short-lived or you have only recently been following events in the Ukraine.

 

I have been following them since Yanukovych's time.

 

One needs to nave been studying them at least that long, and ideally further back to the overall situation in Eastern Europe, to have some understanding of what is happening today in the Ukraine.

 

It is not easy for a newcomer to discover what happened between 2014 and 2022, because numerous details of events in the Ukraine, published by western media sources over that period, have latterly disappeared from the web.  Shoved down the Memory Hole  Presumably to support the NATO narrative.

 

We live in an era of wartime propaganda intended to incite feelings of righteous violence.  Of good versus evil.  It is sometimes necessary to look in the mirror to see ourselves as we really are.

 

3 hours ago, ericbj said:

My commonly used browser, Firefox, prevents Google from tracking me.

:cheesy::cheesy::cheesy:

2 hours ago, ericbj said:

ither your memory is short-lived or you have only recently been following events in the Ukraine.

 

I have been following them since Yanukovych's time.

 

One needs to nave been studying them at least that long, and ideally further back to the overall situation in Eastern Europe, to have some understanding of what is happening today in the Ukraine.

In the earlier minutes are a few of the missing details referred to in my previous post:

 

 

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8 hours ago, candide said:

A well written piece of Russian propaganda.....🙂


I can spot a few more in this thread.

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8 hours ago, transam said:

You must be a Putinite............:offtopic2:


I can spot a few more in this thread.

1 hour ago, rudi49jr said:


I can spot a few more in this thread.

Well, at least it's well written. As RT is not available in several countries, it provides a rather good summary of Russian POV.

Ukraine's complex history is relevant to emotions which contribute to present-day problems:

 

Donbass 1941: How a mining region broke the back of the blitzkrieg

 

Ukrainian Collaboration with Germany in World War II (1941 – 1945)

 

Ukraine's Nazi Problem

 

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10 hours ago, ericbj said:


You may prefer to listen to Colonel MacGregor, C.O. of an armoured unit during the Gulf War :

 

 

 

Thanks but I have no desire to watch any clips which depict an aggressor subjugate a smaller, sovereign neighbour.

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2 hours ago, ericbj said:

Ukraine's complex history is relevant to emotions which contribute to present-day problems:

 

Donbass 1941: How a mining region broke the back of the blitzkrieg

 

Ukrainian Collaboration with Germany in World War II (1941 – 1945)

 

Ukraine's Nazi Problem

 

 

How on earth is Ukraine's collaboration with Nazi Germany relevant to today's conflict? 

 

The excuse that Putin wants to rid Ukraine of Nazis is ridiculous. If he is that disgusted by the presence of right-wing extremists, he should begin by ridding his own nation of them.

Nobody to speak out against the latest corruption scandal in Ukraine involving at the top most level ? It was all over the media. No wonder they always are asking the west for more and more money.

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6 hours ago, Sigmund said:

Nobody to speak out against the latest corruption scandal in Ukraine involving at the top most level ? It was all over the media. No wonder they always are asking the west for more and more money.

 

Yes, there is corruption in Ukraine. And how does that excuse Russia's invasion?

 

If Russia is on the point of collapse as result of the NATO-engineered Ukraine War and multiple associated sanctions-packages, how is it that the rouble is now convertible into gold ?
And when will the U.S. dollar follow suit ?

 

The answers to these questions could be relevant for those relying on income from reserves not tied to the value of gold.
(Probably the majority of those reading this)

 

Maybe just another piece of Putin propaganda :

 

 

 

[He who laughs last laughs longest]

 

A Ukrainian sarcastically describes himself as "an enemy of the people":

 

Dubbed in English from Ukrainian [or Russian? - a native of Odessa]

On 12/8/2025 at 3:16 PM, ericbj said:

 

Either your memory is short-lived or you have only recently been following events in the Ukraine.

 

I have been following them since Yanukovych's time.

 

One needs to nave been studying them at least that long, and ideally further back to the overall situation in Eastern Europe, to have some understanding of what is happening today in the Ukraine.

 

It is not easy for a newcomer to discover what happened between 2014 and 2022, because numerous details of events in the Ukraine, published by western media sources over that period, have latterly disappeared from the web.  Shoved down the Memory Hole  Presumably to support the NATO narrative.

 

We live in an era of wartime propaganda intended to incite feelings of righteous violence.  Of good versus evil.  It is sometimes necessary to look in the mirror to see ourselves as we really are.

 

Putin leads the EVIL side in this war.

 

I guess you think if you can flood this forum with Putin propaganda, you can poison more people with it. Unfortunately, you're probably right.

 

Next 

...

 

Kolomoisky, Zelensky's sponsor for Presedent, has something to say about his former protégé:

 

 

 

A military man shocked Ukraine: "Zelensky – stop lying, end the war, leave now!" 

 

 

 

And this is where it should start, not trump and putin deciding where to draw the lines on the map of a separate sovereign country.

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