On 12/4/2025 at 12:20 PM, worgeordie said:

Just think if the shoe was on the other foot , and Epstein's, best buddy was a Democrat.

 

Regards Worgeordie

His best buddies are and were democrats.  What's your point.

In my experience, p*ssy knows no politics.

20 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Let's see if they're going to name some names, that would be a whole lot of fun, especially if Donny boy was on the list, as many of us just simply presume he's been to the island countless times. 

 

Republicans got creamed in the recent elections. To extend the porcine metaphor, Trump’s polls are dropping, to use a Dave Barry phrase, “like a pig out of a helicopter.”

 

The president, ordinarily a master at recasting reality, had to give up his ludicrous attempt to paint the Epstein files as a Democratic hoax. Labeling Marjorie Taylor Greene, his former acolyte who now says she identifies with the Epstein victims, a “traitor” backfired.

In a rare show of rebellion, Republicans refused to bend the knee and pretend that it was OK to shield a sexual pervert and give his accomplice, Ghislane Maxwell, treats in prison and pardon dreams just because Trump didn’t want the details of his involvement with Epstein to surface.

 

In emails Democrats released, Epstein wrote that “Trump had spent hours at my house” with one of the victims and that he believed Trump knew more than he had acknowledged, and called Trump “evil beyond belief.” You know you’re in trouble when someone evil beyond belief calls you evil beyond belief.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/22/opinion/trump-piggy-mamdani.html?smid=nytcore-android-share

I'm afraid you're going to be disappointed....

On 12/6/2025 at 4:20 PM, Thingamabob said:

Deeply worrying images. There are chairs and tables in some rooms, beds in the bedrooms, pictures on the walls and, most disturbing of all, a bottle of talcum powder in a bathroom.

Dem's & their propaganda machine experts at deception

On 12/6/2025 at 10:53 AM, ujayujay said:

This is creepy😂😂😂😂😂

 

The screen grab doesn't capture the whole meaning of that clip. That screenshot captures two men in conversation, could have been about anything.

 

The video gives a context. Its difficult to find raw footage, and there is lilely a lot more that has not been aired

 

 

So two men, aged 46 and 39, at a party. Trump is bopping with an early version of the Jack-Off Gay dance, to Snap!'s "Rhythm  is the Dancer. The men are on the sidelines, gawking at cheer leaders for a NFL team (1992). Lewd remarks are exchanged, likely a dirty joke. About 11 months after this, Trump's youngest daughter, Tiffany, was born out of wedlock, with Trump marrying the mother about 2 months later. At the time, this 46 year old, rather than being the batchelor described in the voice over, was a divorced single dad, with kids aged 15, 11 and 8.

 

The very tall man arriving with Epstein, and briefly talking with Trump was Tom McMillen, a former basketball player/freak, and at the time, a Democrat congressman. Like Trump, McMillen says he didn't know Epstein. But his name appears in Epstein's black book.

 

But there is further mukiness. Probably McmIllen inadvertantly captured the MO of Epstein.

 

https://en.as.com/nba/this-is-the-ex-nba-player-who-appears-in-the-video-with-trump-and-epstein-i-feel-terrible-about-the-victims-f202512-n/

 

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I didn’t really know [Epstein].......I’m not surprised [that his name features], you run into people like this... I didn’t have much correspondence with him, he knew a lot of people. His modus operandi was to collect people more than anything else.......As he got wealthier, the people he hung out with were Bill Gates and those kinds of folk........I don’t know what to say, I feel terrible about the victims and I hope all this stuff comes to light and there can be resolution to it..........The picture of me was me coming into a party with my girlfriend, 34 years ago. I can barely remember any of this...Let’s move on... please let’s move on... I’m going to leave

 

The interview mentions from the Epstein emails a certain Gwendolyn Beck asking Epstein about McMillen, and sharing some confidential information about possible Ambassadorships. Victoria Giuffre said Beck was part of the orgies on Epstein Island. She had known Trump for a long time, and was a regular at Mar-a-lago. During the  2016 campaign, she openly supported trump

 

 

 One is reminded of Robert Maxwell. Ostensibly, he was a Labour Party supporter, owning the Mirror group. In reality, he cultivated close acquaintances across the political spectrum. He worked for British Intelligence. But he was worked for Mossad, and it turns out, he worked for Russian Intelligence. He speciality was honeytrap blackmails. He was found dead after trying to blackmail the Israelis in November 1991.

 

Epstein used to help Maxwell offshore his money, all the more so as Maxwell fell into debt (he had tried to hit up the Israelis for more money). Likely Robert Maxwell introduced Epstein to his daughter, not the other way around.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/04/01/jeffrey-epstein-helped-ghislaine-maxwells-father-robert-hide/

 

Curious

 

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When Robert Maxwell died, Ghislaine was on the boat in Tenerife and, I was told, she found some papers in his bedroom where the name Jeffrey Epstein came up.......Ghislaine gave an instruction to the crew to shred all papers which mentioned Jeffrey Epstein and her father’s connection to him

 

One interpretation was that Ghislaine was trying to hide financial investigators efforts to track down an estimated £800m that went missing from the Mirror Group Pension Fund. Possibly, or she was instructed to scrub any connection between Epstein and Maxwell.

 

Maxwell worked for the KGB and Mossad. Epstein is heavily connected to Mossad. There are serious theories that Epstein had also been cultivated by the Soviet Union in his early 20s. Did Robert Maxwell recruit him? Maxwell went to his grave remembered as a crook. But it seems like he was more.

 

Donald Trump knew Robert Maxwell. Maxwell met Trump in 1989.

 

 

 

Getting very strange. The Lady Ghislaine yacht was the boat Maxwell "fell" from.

 

Trump said he knew Epstein from the "late 80s", about the same time Maxwell and Epstein started working together

 

Idiots think this is a Republican-Democrat thing. No. Its  Western Society (Free World)-Russian thing. Hybrid warfare to bring down our societies, aided by the corruption that exists in the Baby Boomer generation, that generation that benefited hugely from the efforts of their forefathers to beat theNazis, and survive the Depression, but grifted their way to comfortable retirements on the backs of their children, the Gen Xers, benefiting from property and share price rises. Putin doesn't care about Republican/Democrat/Tory/Labour. He's  a dyed in the wool Communist, brought up remembering a dead brother killed by the Nazis, hating the Capitalist West. Anyone who isn;'t a communist, for him, is a Nazi, hence the language he described the Ukrainian leader, a Jewish Gen Xer. Putin was a man who, when in the DDR, delighted in funding terrorist groups murdering politicians in the West, and suppressing free thought in East Germany

 

Besides leading members of American society, this Kompromet operation corrupted or attempted to corrupt British Royalty, the British political establishment and leading members of British society. It took the Duke of Wales, not a Baby Boomer, to say enough is enough, and lance the boil.

 

https://tomorrowsaffairs.com/the-transnational-dimension-of-theepstein-casea-hybrid-warfare-against-the-west

 

Yeltson might have been a sozzled old bastard, but this line from him indicates he knew what Vladimir Putin was all about; a man intent in destroying all of us. "Reddish".

 

https://youtu.be/mrElgvnbVJQ?si=2hT1bAax8y78tHdJ&t=195

 

 

 

 

Many years later, the gay 3-way  Jack-Off dance is perfected.

 

 

 

On 12/6/2025 at 10:25 AM, spidermike007 said:

Let's see if they're going to name some names, that would be a whole lot of fun, especially if Donny boy was on the list, as many of us just simply presume he's been to the island countless times. 

 

Republicans got creamed in the recent elections. To extend the porcine metaphor, Trump’s polls are dropping, to use a Dave Barry phrase, “like a pig out of a helicopter.”

 

The president, ordinarily a master at recasting reality, had to give up his ludicrous attempt to paint the Epstein files as a Democratic hoax. Labeling Marjorie Taylor Greene, his former acolyte who now says she identifies with the Epstein victims, a “traitor” backfired.

In a rare show of rebellion, Republicans refused to bend the knee and pretend that it was OK to shield a sexual pervert and give his accomplice, Ghislane Maxwell, treats in prison and pardon dreams just because Trump didn’t want the details of his involvement with Epstein to surface.

 

In emails Democrats released, Epstein wrote that “Trump had spent hours at my house” with one of the victims and that he believed Trump knew more than he had acknowledged, and called Trump “evil beyond belief.” You know you’re in trouble when someone evil beyond belief calls you evil beyond belief.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/22/opinion/trump-piggy-mamdani.html?smid=nytcore-android-share

 

 

You're not thinking big enough. This isn't a Republican v Democrat thing. Trump was just a tool in the whole scheme, like Andrew Battenberg-Windor, Peter Mandalson and many others.

 

Consider how Mossad and the KGB worked together

 

https://thegeopolitics.com/mossad-and-kgb-cooperation-a-strategic-paradox-in-cold-war-intelligence/

 

There is a fallacy to think that Western Powers and Israel are on the same side. They are not. We coincide at times. Israel is on Israels side. The founders of that country hated Britain, perhps with justification. They also won't forget that had the America First Committee, which did have popular support, succeeded in WW2, the Jewish people would be no more. We are useful to their ambitions, but our ideologies do not align. Generally in modern Western democracies, we abhor the idea of a theocratic state. Its not so clear cut in Israel, where the fate of the nation is so intertwined with a religion. The founding basis of the State of Israel means  there is no accomodation, on an equal basis in society, with Christians or Muslims. Not all Israeli politicians are of that mind, but there is a particular partof Israeli society, mostly drawn from Russia, that believes that, and is in the ascendancy.

 

https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2025/03/29/christian-communities-in-israel-face-growing-hostility-annual-report-reveals/