January 4Jan 4 Popular Post What If Flu Season Is the Body’s Emergency Reset?Source: https://sayerji.substack.com/p/what-if-flu-season-is-the-bodys-emergency= = =The investigative question modern flu season avoidsEvery winter, a familiar story is broadcast with industrial confidence:A virus is “circulating.”You are “exposed.”Exposure becomes an “infection.”“Infection” becomes symptoms.Symptoms become a problem to suppress—ideally prevented by a pharmaceutical product.And yet, lived physiology keeps interrupting the narrative.People who push themselves through brutally intense training sessions—hard HIIT intervals, hill sprints, long heat-soaked workouts—often report a transient constellation of “flu-like” symptoms: profuse sweating, nausea, chills, trembling, headache, malaise, a sense of impending doom. Then, if they recover well, the aftermath is the opposite of illness: clarity, appetite normalization, mood elevation, sleep depth, and the unmistakable feeling that something has been cleaned out and rebuilt.¹³¹⁴I describe surviving this “near death” exertion a regenerative wave, which for me can last for over 24 hours....This article, while questioning several foundational assumptions of classical virology, is not an exercise in denial. Rather, it represents an effort to move beyond a one-dimensional, pathogen-centric interpretation of disease—one that has proven insufficient to explain mounting biological complexity. That narrow framing has, perhaps too conveniently, supported both the continual expansion of vaccine schedules falsely and irresponsibly promoted as unequivocally “safe and effective,” and the recurring, seasonal cycle of media- and medicine-amplified fear, in which invisible particles are portrayed as the primary threats to human health, demanding passive vigilance rather than deeper inquiry into terrain, resilience, and causation.You can read full article here > https://sayerji.substack.com/p/what-if-flu-season-is-the-bodys-emergency
January 4Jan 4 11 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:profuse sweating, nausea, chills, trembling, headache, malaise, a sense of impending doom-adrenaline spike-lactic acidosis-Electrolyte depletion That's all it is. Nothing else.
January 4Jan 4 You can also claim flu is a natures way of taking out the sick and week, so those humans or animals with best genes can survive and bring on the best genes to next generation! No wonder why we can't figure out how they built the pyramids these days, considering what we know and learned, but people still can't separate what is true or not. All said with a Blunck in the eyeFlu exists because of influenza viruses that infect the respiratory system, spreading easily through air droplets or contaminated surfaces, and constantly changing (mutating) to evade our immune systems, necessitating annual vaccines. These viruses naturally circulate in animals (like birds and pigs) and humans, with minor changes (antigenic drift) or major shifts (antigenic shift) creating new strains our bodies don't recognize, leading to seasonal epidemics. Why Flu PersistsViral Evolution: Flu viruses mutate frequently, meaning the strains circulating each year are often different from previous years, which is why immunity from past infections or vaccines wanes.Animal Reservoirs: Influenza A viruses primarily live in wild birds, but can transfer to mammals like pigs and horses, and then to humans, creating new pandemic threats.Transmission: Droplets from coughs, sneezes, and talking, or touching infected surfaces, easily spread the virus from person to person.Environmental Factors: Colder, drier air can help the virus survive longer outside the body, contributing to winter flu seasons. Key Types of Flu VirusesInfluenza A: Causes seasonal epidemics and pandemics, often originating from animals.Influenza B: Primarily infects humans and causes seasonal outbreaks.Influenza C: Causes mild, non-seasonal respiratory illness. In essence, flu is a successful virus that constantly evolves, making it a persistent challenge for human health, but annual vaccination remains the best defense.
January 4Jan 4 Author 5 minutes ago, Hummin said:You can also claim flu is a natures way of taking out the sick and week, so those humans or animals with best genes can survive and bring on the best genes to next generation!No wonder why we can't figure out how they built the pyramids these days, considering what we know and learned, but people still can't separate what is true or not.All said with a Blunck in the eyeFlu exists because of influenza viruses that infect the respiratory system, spreading easily through air droplets or contaminated surfaces, and constantly changing (mutating) to evade our immune systems, necessitating annual vaccines. These viruses naturally circulate in animals (like birds and pigs) and humans, with minor changes (antigenic drift) or major shifts (antigenic shift) creating new strains our bodies don't recognize, leading to seasonal epidemics.Why Flu PersistsViral Evolution: Flu viruses mutate frequently, meaning the strains circulating each year are often different from previous years, which is why immunity from past infections or vaccines wanes.Animal Reservoirs: Influenza A viruses primarily live in wild birds, but can transfer to mammals like pigs and horses, and then to humans, creating new pandemic threats.Transmission: Droplets from coughs, sneezes, and talking, or touching infected surfaces, easily spread the virus from person to person.Environmental Factors: Colder, drier air can help the virus survive longer outside the body, contributing to winter flu seasons.Key Types of Flu VirusesInfluenza A: Causes seasonal epidemics and pandemics, often originating from animals.Influenza B: Primarily infects humans and causes seasonal outbreaks.Influenza C: Causes mild, non-seasonal respiratory illness.In essence, flu is a successful virus that constantly evolves, making it a persistent challenge for human health, but annual vaccination remains the best defense.Pretty sure that you didn't write the above BS piece about Flu and 'vaccination remains the best defense', but that you simply copy/pasted it. Edit by Moderation For transparency, it would be appreciated if a link to the quoted source were provided.
January 4Jan 4 53 minutes ago, Bacon1 said:-adrenaline spike-lactic acidosis-Electrolyte depletionThat's all it is. Nothing else.There’s a lot more to it as those are symptoms of the immune system response when the body is dealing with illness, infection, where the immune system overreacts to an infection triggering widespread inflammation that can damage tissues and organs. This overreaction, known as a cytokine storm that leads to a cascade of physiological changes and reactions.
January 4Jan 4 Popular Post 8 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:Pretty sure that you didn't write the above BS piece about Flu and 'vaccination remains the best defense', but that you simply copy/pasted it.Edit by ModerationFor transparency, it would be appreciated if a link to the quoted source were provided.It is same as you do, read copy and paste, and your opinion about BS, I take with pinch of salt from one who only posts BS. You are the BS Master of the forum.No need to post a link about something that is approved official validated information! Common knowledge either you like it or not!
January 4Jan 4 23 minutes ago, Hummin said:Influenza C: Causes mild, non-seasonal respiratory illness.In essence, flu is a successful virus that constantly evolves, making it a persistent challenge for human health, but annual vaccination remains the best defense.Vaccinations most certainly is not the best defense against infections, the immune system is. If it weren’t, then why do some who are exposed to the same pathogens fall ill and others don’t? A simple illustration would be, a group of people go out partying and they all get drunk as a slosh bucket except one person who is a designated driver to get everyone home safely. A few days later everyone that got drunk gets sick except for the driver. Why? Because the alcohol in their systems weakened their immune systems during the exposure and the pathogen exploited it.
January 4Jan 4 13 minutes ago, novacova said:There’s a lot more to it as those are symptoms of the immune system response when the body is dealing with illness, infection, where the immune system overreacts to an infection triggering widespread inflammation that can damage tissues and organs. This overreaction, known as a cytokine storm that leads to a cascade of physiological changes and reactions.I think he referred to hard training reaction which is similar to flue infection when you burn out everything you got, and the body react.
January 4Jan 4 Just now, Hummin said:I think he referred to hard training reaction which is similar to flue infection when you burn out everything you got, and the body react.It’s all the same. Those with a healthy strong immune system won’t have the same symptoms as those who don’t. Just because someone who works out all the time doesn’t mean that their immune system isn’t compromised. Some folks walk around for decades with compromised immune systems and don’t even know it.
January 4Jan 4 Just now, novacova said:Vaccinations most certainly is not the best defense against infections, the immune system is. If it weren’t, then why do some who are exposed to the same pathogens fall ill and others don’t? A simple illustration would be, a group of people go out partying and they all get drunk as a slosh bucket except one person who is a designated driver to get everyone home safely. A few days later everyone that got drunk gets sick except for the driver. Why? Because the alcohol in their systems weakened their immune systems during the exposure and the pathogen exploited it.I do not get flu very often, once a decade or so, my mom I cant recall had flu ever, but my brother say he think she had flu once in the 90ies. Same as my brother who very rarely get flu at all, my father and siter gets it often, but they are more social and also my sister used to work in kinder garden. We are also aware of individual responses to vaccines same as different illnesses, so
January 4Jan 4 1 minute ago, novacova said:It’s all the same. Those with a healthy strong immune system won’t have the same symptoms as those who don’t. Just because someone who works out all the time doesn’t mean that their immune system isn’t compromised. Some folks walk around for decades with compromised immune systems and don’t even know it.People who push themselves hard physically and mentally, will sooner or later experience compromised immune system, of course diet and nutrition comes to mind as well, as well physical wounds, etc
January 4Jan 4 6 minutes ago, Hummin said:People who push themselves hard physically and mentally, will sooner or later experience compromised immune system, of course diet and nutrition comes to mind as well, as well physical wounds, etcPushing the body to extreme exertion is pushing the immune system to adapt to the changes and conditions of the body’s environment.
January 4Jan 4 6 minutes ago, novacova said:Pushing the body to extreme exertion is pushing the immune system to adapt to the changes and conditions of the body’s environment.More easily understood The risk of infection vs intensity of activity where no activity you are at high risk, moderate less risk and intense activity high risk.
January 4Jan 4 A decent hangover, followed by some hair of dog still works wonders to put flu in its place.If required, rinse & repeat.🙃🙃
January 4Jan 4 13 minutes ago, Hummin said:More easily understood The risk of infection vs intensity of activity where no activity you are at high risk, moderate less risk and intense activity high risk.Possibly, though that’s a broad variable.
January 4Jan 4 2 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:A virus is “circulating.”Viruses are circulating all year round.But they appear to be more harmful during winter months because:1 - People don't spend much time outdoors in fresh air and sunshine in winter months2 - Cold weather constricts blood flow and reduces immunityVaccines are not ideal, but there is no solution.There is no fix for winter flu because the root causes cannot be removed.Your suggestion to get rid of all vaccines is not feasible either.Keep in mind the capitalist system doesn't like people taking too many sick days off work. Hence the flu vaccine was probably invented. But people will not stop getting sick from the flu.
January 4Jan 4 Popular Post 7 minutes ago, save the frogs said:There is no fix for winter flu because the root causes cannot be removed.The fix for influenza is a healthy immune system, which is inherently designed to protect against infections. Western medicine for the most part isn’t designed to treat cause, it’s designed to treat symptoms.
January 4Jan 4 1 minute ago, novacova said:The fix for influenza is a healthy immune system, which is inherently designed to protect against infections. Western medicine for the most part isn’t designed to treat cause, it’s designed to treat symptoms.But I just explained to you that the conditions for keeping immunity high in winter are not easy.No one goes out in the fresh air and sun in the winter.You can take vitamins, eat well, but you can't replace sunshine and fresh air.When you get off work in January at 5PM, it's already pitch black. You don't get any sun for weeks on end in the winter. This is not normal for the human body.
January 4Jan 4 4 hours ago, novacova said:The fix for influenza is a healthy immune system, which is inherently designed to protect against infections. Western medicine for the most part isn’t designed to treat cause, it’s designed to treat symptoms.You are part way right NC Sir.
January 4Jan 4 4 hours ago, save the frogs said:Viruses are circulating all year round.But they appear to be more harmful during winter months because:1 - People don't spend much time outdoors in fresh air and sunshine in winter months2 - Cold weather constricts blood flow and reduces immunityVaccines are not ideal, but there is no solution.There is no fix for winter flu because the root causes cannot be removed.Your suggestion to get rid of all vaccines is not feasible either.Keep in mind the capitalist system doesn't like people taking too many sick days off work. Hence the flu vaccine was probably invented.But people will not stop getting sick from the flu.Why do you believe this nonsense about viruses Sir. I've explained why people get the 'flu'. Read my older posts for that. Nothing to do with any mysterious entity that is not found in nature. Only in a computer.Nature has the answers we seek.
January 4Jan 4 Popular Post Just now, Stiddle Mump said:Why do you believe this nonsense about viruses Sir.I've explained why people get the 'flu'. Read my older posts for that. Nothing to do with any mysterious entity that is not found in nature. Only in a computer.Nature has the answers we seek.He and I believe it because those in the actual medical and scientific profession from around the world tell us, not some unqualified guesser like you on a Thai English forum with no credentials at all spouting nonsense, day in, day out..............
January 4Jan 4 Popular Post Just now, transam said:He and I believe it because those in the actual medical and scientific profession from around the world tell us, not some unqualified guesser like you on a Thai English forum with no credentials at all spouting nonsense, day in, day out..............Happy new year to you back Trans Sir.It has been pointed out by others on AN, that the '',,,,medical and scientific profession,,,,." don't always know what they are talking about. Of late; "Safe n effective" springs immediately to mind. Also the $$$ aspect. "Don't bite the hand that feeds you." And! "It's hard to persuade someone that he/she is wrong; when his pay-check depends on his unquestioning support."There is the 'ego' part to all this. Covid has shown that many, if not most, are simply know-nothing white-coats, lapping the the $$$ gravy stream. For many, a donkey-jacket would be more suitable. And a dunce's hat too. Their halo has more than slipped; it's disappeared. How can someone be trusted to be honest, and, do no harm, when he/she thinks that sliding a needle into a babe, toddler, youngster or preggers lady is perfectly OK? $$$ anyone? Especially now, when it has been shown that viruses have never actually be shown to exist. Let alone cause sickness.These white-coat chancers have been well and truly rumbled.Nature has the answers we seek.
January 4Jan 4 9 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:Happy new year to you back Trans Sir.It has been pointed out by others on AN, that the '',,,,medical and scientific profession,,,,." don't always know what they are talking about. Of late; "Safe n effective" springs immediately to mind. Also the $$$ aspect. "Don't bite the hand that feeds you." And! "It's hard to persuade someone that he/she is wrong; when his pay-check depends on his unquestioning support."There is the 'ego' part to all this. Covid has shown that many, if not most, are simply know-nothing white-coats, lapping the the $$$ gravy stream. For many, a donkey-jacket would be more suitable. And a dunce's hat too.Their halo has more than slipped; it's disappeared. How can someone be trusted to be honest, and, do no harm, when he/she thinks that sliding a needle into a babe, toddler, youngster or preggers lady is perfectly OK? $$$ anyone? Especially now, when it has been shown that viruses have never actually be shown to exist. Let alone cause sickness.These white-coat chancers have been well and truly rumbled.Nature has the answers we seek.I guess you don't buy fuel for your car, fly on planes, buy music, go to concerts, go to restaurants, go to hotels, you do nothing, just think about nature that cannot fix everything because everything costs money and has to make profits.I hope you don't get cataracts as you age, not getting them fixed by pharma will be nasty, oh, and nature can't fix cataracts, it is the normal ageing process for many....🤗Oh, do you need glasses........? 🤓
January 4Jan 4 9 minutes ago, transam said:I guess you don't buy fuel for your car, fly on planes, buy music, go to concerts, go to restaurants, go to hotels, you do nothing, just think about nature that cannot fix everything because everything costs money and has to make profits.I hope you don't get cataracts as you age, not getting them fixed by pharma will be nasty, oh, and nature can't fix cataracts, it is the normal ageing process for many....🤗Oh, do you need glasses........? 🤓Went to the farm earlier to feed the ducks. They don't need airplanes and heavy metal music. We humans are the same Trans Sir. I could perfectly well live at the farm and want for nothing.Nature is the provider of everything.
January 4Jan 4 7 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:Went to the farm earlier to feed the ducks. They don't need airplanes and heavy metal music. We humans are the same Trans Sir. I could perfectly well live at the farm and want for nothing.Nature is the provider of everything.Nope, societies is the provider and make sure humans survive. Some societies is better than others, and temporary societies make the wrong decisions, but eventually forced back on the right track again. So, going to be interesting to see how many more of you there will be, before we turn back to common sense agains, and actually understand societies with healthy Governments (read the name) is the only solution to provide and protect people from being stupid.
January 4Jan 4 Popular Post 20 minutes ago, transam said:I guess you don't buy fuel for your car, fly on planes, buy music, go to concerts, go to restaurants, go to hotels, you do nothing, just think about nature that cannot fix everything because everything costs money and has to make profits.I hope you don't get cataracts as you age, not getting them fixed by pharma will be nasty, oh, and nature can't fix cataracts, it is the normal ageing process for many....🤗Oh, do you need glasses........? 🤓On the point of cataracts Trans Sir. People get them for a reason. An alternative medical practitioner would find out the reason(s), address the problem early, and seek to return vision to what it once was. There are things that can be done to reverse the early stage of the complaint. However, like most things, if it's left too late, then it's an uphill task.Many of the complaint/conditions that are put down to 'old age', are nothing of the sort. Most are due to medical interventions, toxicity and poor living practices.Nature is the ultimate boss.
January 4Jan 4 4 minutes ago, Hummin said:Nope, societies is the provider and make sure humans survive. Some societies is better than others, and temporary societies make the wrong decisions, but eventually forced back on the right track again.So, going to be interesting to see how many more of you there will be, before we turn back to common sense agains, and actually understand societies with healthy Governments (read the name) is the only solution to provide and protect people from being stupid.I agree that community living, in a loving caring environment, is very important. Also working with nature; especially in the field. Eating from nature's bountiful larder. At the right times of the year. And experiencing, and appreciating, what nature has to offer.Seems like all the societies that live well beyond 100 have the common nature theme. For more info on this see the 'OTBT' topic, on both men and women, being sexually active at 120.Nature has the answers.
January 4Jan 4 43 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:Went to the farm earlier to feed the ducks. They don't need airplanes and heavy metal music. We humans are the same Trans Sir. I could perfectly well live at the farm and want for nothing.Nature is the provider of everything.You walked to Thailand because you didn't need a plane... ?? what about people playing music to trees....Get bitten by a snake at your farm - you'd need medical attention very quickly...Trip and cut your leg on a rusty nail ? you'd need a Tetanus vaccine and very likey something to prevent further infect.In your 'perfect word' of 'nature has the answers' you omit the very existence of common sense.As for the ducks.. as quwakers as you are !!!
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