49 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

He should if the FBI is fair with their investigation. State and local officers are already sounding the alarm of cover up and FBI authorising themselves solely in the investigation.

The FBI leading the investigation into the fatal shooting of Renee Nicole Good by an ICE agent on January 7, 2026, is normal and standard protocol under federal law and Department of Justice/FBI procedures.

When a federal law enforcement officer (like an ICE agent) uses deadly force in the line of duty—especially during an official operation—the FBI typically takes the lead (often through its Civil Rights Division or in coordination with the Office of Inspector General).

This is because the incident involves federal jurisdiction: potential violations of federal civil rights laws (e.g., 18 U.S.C. § 242 for deprivation of rights under color of law), internal DHS/ICE use-of-force reviews, and questions of federal immunity under the Supremacy Clause.

1 hour ago, mikeymike100 said:

Your rebuttal mischaracterizes my position and creates false equivalences.

I never claimed the US is perfect or that Trump lacks authoritarian tendencies—he has praised strongmen like Putin, Xi, and Kim in the past (often in diplomatic contexts).

But recent statements show frustration with them, and on Iran, Trump has condemned the regime’s violence, warned against killing protesters, and threatened intervention—not admiration.

Constitutional protections aren’t perfect, but they prevent authoritarian overreach.

Trump floated suspending the Constitution (later walked back) and considered the Insurrection Act in 2020 (but was stopped by advisors and legal checks).

These moments were dangerous, yet the system corrected itself—unlike Iran, where there are no such safeguards, and hundreds are killed systematically with impunity.

Scale isn’t about an arbitrary “cutoff” for deaths.

Hypocrisy would require the US endorsing or replicating Iran’s mass killings, blackouts, and hospital raids—which it doesn’t. US protest incidents are investigated and prosecuted under law; Iran’s are deliberate state suppression.

That’s not relativism—it’s a clear principle: defend human rights universally while upholding domestic democratic norms. The differences are systemic, not just in body count.

Facts show no double standard, only opposition to tyranny.

What rule are you applying that treats authoritarian intent and attempted overreach as irrelevant unless they succeed, yet still claims to be principled and universal?

19 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

What rule are you applying that treats authoritarian intent and attempted overreach as irrelevant unless they succeed, yet still claims to be principled and universal?

The rule is simple: intent and attempts at authoritarian overreach are dangerous and deserve strong condemnation, but they aren't legally equivalent to completed crimes like mass extrajudicial killings.

The distinction between attempted/intended authoritarian overreach and completed criminal acts (which trigger actual legal consequences) is a bedrock principle of criminal law, constitutional protections, and human rights standards worldwide—not some special carve-out for one political side.

• Intent + failed attempt = moral/political crisis, impeachment fodder, public rebuke, but rarely criminal prosecution unless it crosses into conspiracy or incitement.

• Intent + successful act that deprives people of life, liberty, or rights = crime, often a grave one (e.g., deprivation of rights under color of law, crimes against humanity).

That line isn't hypocrisy or relativism; it's what prevents democracies from prosecuting people for bad thoughts or rhetorical excesses while still holding them accountable when they actually cross into illegal deeds.

Iran's regime crossed that line with lethal force, mass arrests, and systematic suppression.

Trump's most concerning statements and musings (e.g., "terminate" rhetoric, Insurrection Act talk) stayed on the intent/attempt side and were checked by institutions—dangerous, yes; legally equivalent to extrajudicial killings, no.

The standard is consistent and universal. If it weren't, we'd be criminalizing every politician's worst off-the-cuff remark, and that's not a principle worth defending.

On 1/12/2026 at 7:46 AM, Real Name Hidden said:

I feel sorry for the ICE agents and the abuse they'll be subjected to. Hopefully there won't be any more murders.

That's like feeling sorry for the mafia hit men

10 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

That's like feeling sorry for the mafia hit men

I don't have a problem deporting illegals, I have a problem with the implementation because we're better than that (not the maga cult but the rest of us, and we're the majority).

15 hours ago, mikeymike100 said:

Isn't it up to an independent FBI investigation, possibly followed by a federal prosecutor and—if warranted—a court of law and jury, to decide whether Agent Ross’s use of force was justified or criminal? Or are you judge, jury and executioner??

Of course, then he will be locked up..................🤗

I WATCHED the facts, an open and shut case, you have no idea of the protocol of any officer or agent regarding the decision to shoot and kill someone, so stand down, stop protecting a loose cannon Rambo.......🙄

Donald Trump loves chaos, he loves division, he loves to sow hatred amongst the American people, and he is the polar opposite of a unifier, so sending in more troops fits his agenda perfectly. It will encourage more conflict, there will be more killings, and it matters not one iota to this man. Human life means nothing to him, peace means nothing to him, and conciliation means nothing to him.

Division, war, and hatred are his personal brands. Trump is the war president.

On 1/12/2026 at 6:58 AM, Real Name Hidden said:

The responsible thing to do would be to leave until things cool down.

cool this ,, the "Federal Agents " should arrest anyone interfering with their actions... and Swiftly move them to Alligator Alactraz or Gitmo and hold them there !

Trump, the peace president.

“I cherish peace with all of my heart. I don’t care how many men, women and children I need to kill to get it.”

25 minutes ago, transam said:

Of course, then he will be locked up..................🤗

I WATCHED the facts, an open and shut case, you have no idea of the protocol of any officer or agent regarding the decision to shoot and kill someone, so stand down, stop protecting a loose cannon Rambo.......🙄

Oh dear.....No, you don't get to declare it an "open and shut case" just because you watched a video clip and decided you're an expert on federal use-of-force protocols. That's exactly the point I made: you're not the judge, jury, or executioner—none of us are.

In the United States, determinations of whether an agent's actions were justified, excessive, or criminal are made through due process, not social media hot takes, bystander outrage, or armchair analysis, as you seem to think.

You throw around "you have no idea of the protocol" while acting like you already know it's justified and demanding everyone else "stand down." That's ludicrous.

Videos are evidence, not verdicts. They rarely show the full context (what happened before the recording started, verbal commands, perceived threat), etc.

If the facts and protocols show excessive force after a proper probe, he'll face charges and trial—like any other case. Until then, insisting "he'll be locked up, isn't justice!!

On 1/12/2026 at 8:21 AM, mikeymike100 said:

I feel sorry for the ICE agents too, fortunately nobody has been murdered!

Yeah… The first shot thru the windshield was self defense… The second two to the side window were to teach the B#$ch a lesson…

1 minute ago, mikeymike100 said:

Oh dear.....No, you don't get to declare it an "open and shut case" just because you watched a video clip and decided you're an expert on federal use-of-force protocols. That's exactly the point I made: you're not the judge, jury, or executioner—none of us are.

In the United States, determinations of whether an agent's actions were justified, excessive, or criminal are made through due process, not social media hot takes, bystander outrage, or armchair analysis, as you seem to think.

You throw around "you have no idea of the protocol" while acting like you already know it's justified and demanding everyone else "stand down." That's ludicrous.

Videos are evidence, not verdicts. They rarely show the full context (what happened before the recording started, verbal commands, perceived threat), etc.

If the facts and protocols show excessive force after a proper probe, he'll face charges and trial—like any other case. Until then, insisting "he'll be locked up, isn't justice!!

You can protect the bloke all you like, you don't matter, the executed lady's family needs to see the executioner in the dock to answer questions.

Him being a Rambo wannabe doesn't cut it, put him in the dock, then lock him up.............

Following the death MURDER of Renee Nicole Good.

13 minutes ago, transam said:

You can protect the bloke all you like, you don't matter, the executed lady's family needs to see the executioner in the dock to answer questions.

Him being a Rambo wannabe doesn't cut it, put him in the dock, then lock him up.............

“Cool story. You want the ‘executioner’ in the dock yesterday?

Then stop whining and start demanding the actual evidence—like Becca’s iPhone video—gets turned over instead of playing keyboard prosecutor.

Due process isn’t optional just because you’re mad. It’s what separates justice from a lynch mob with emojis.

If the facts bury him, he’ll rot. Until then, your ‘lock him up’ chant is just noise.

Sit down, let investigators do their job, and save the Rambo fanfiction for Reddit.”

Just now, mikeymike100 said:

“Cool story. You want the ‘executioner’ in the dock yesterday?

Then stop whining and start demanding the actual evidence—like Becca’s iPhone video—gets turned over instead of playing keyboard prosecutor.

Due process isn’t optional just because you’re mad. It’s what separates justice from a lynch mob with emojis.

If the facts bury him, he’ll rot. Until then, your ‘lock him up’ chant is just noise.

Sit down, let investigators do their job, and save the Rambo fanfiction for Reddit.”

Sunbeam, I have SEEN the evidence, you, try putting your hero Trump on the back burner for a while, concentrate on the 3 shot executioner, of an unarmed mother of 3.....😬

I just hope he gets arrested, if he does, I WILL come back to you and a couple of half a brain others ........😒

19 hours ago, transam said:

Guessing again..............

That isn't a guess, it's as fact, unless you have lived there you don't know what you are talking about.

1 minute ago, flexomike said:

That isn't a guess, it's as fact, unless you have lived there you don't know what you are talking about.

Lived where...? 🤔

Just now, transam said:

Lived where...? 🤔

In Minnesota, my state, I have seen what this woke out of touch people have done to destroy it, kind of like what has happened to London,

Just now, flexomike said:

In Minnesota, my state, I have seen what this woke out of touch people have done to destroy it, kind of like what has happened to London,

Have you ever lived in London...? 😆

21 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

“Cool story. You want the ‘executioner’ in the dock yesterday?

Then stop whining and start demanding the actual evidence—like Becca’s iPhone video—gets turned over instead of playing keyboard prosecutor.

Due process isn’t optional just because you’re mad. It’s what separates justice from a lynch mob with emojis.

If the facts bury him, he’ll rot. Until then, your ‘lock him up’ chant is just noise.

Sit down, let investigators do their job, and save the Rambo fanfiction for Reddit.”

Sound reasonable to ask for the investigator to do their job except that Trump and his administration have been unleashing a torrent of accusations that Renee Good a domestic terrorist, stalking ICE, paid agitator, brainwashed by lefties, determine to kill and excluding state in the FBI investigation. You have any harsh words for them?

54 minutes ago, BKKKevin said:

Yeah… The first shot thru the windshield was self defense… The second two to the side window were to teach the B#$ch a lesson…

Even that self defense was incorrect. He should not have been in that position, due to incorrectly trying to detain her and being in the wrong position.

1 hour ago, BKKKevin said:

Yeah… The first shot thru the windshield was self defense… The second two to the side window were to teach the B#$ch a lesson…

Plus, police are not allowed to shoot at a moving vehicle, pus, as he shot through the side window, did he check if there were bystanders on the other side of the road in his line of fire, naaaah, of course he didn't, get him in the dock, lose his job, but he won't worry too much, as his hero Trump will no doubt give him a pardon, just like he did with the other criminals............😒

33 minutes ago, transam said:

Sunbeam, I have SEEN the evidence, you, try putting your hero Trump on the back burner for a while, concentrate on the 3 shot executioner, of an unarmed mother of 3.....😬

I just hope he gets arrested, if he does, I WILL come back to you and a couple of half a brain others ........😒

Calling people names....tut tut,

Oh, Sunbeam? Cute. But let's get one thing straight: screaming "I HAVE SEEN the evidence" while clutching your phone like it's a crystal ball doesn't make you Perry Mason. It makes you a TikTok juror.You've seen:

• a 47-second clip from the agent's phone

• some bystander angles

• zero autopsy report

• zero full witness statements

• zero Becca Good's unreleased iPhone footage

• zero agent interview under oath

And from that incomplete playlist you've already convicted a federal agent of "3-shot execution" of an "unarmed mother of 3" and sentenced him to arrest.

Bold move for someone who admitted five minutes ago they don't even know the use-of-force protocols.

You want him arrested yesterday? Then stop LARPing as judge and jury and start demanding the actual missing evidence gets turned over: Becca's video, full forensics, body-cam (if any), dispatch logs. Because if that stuff buries him, he'll be in cuffs faster than you can type another emoji rant.

But if it doesn't? You'll just ghost like every other drive-by outrage warrior who swore they'd "come back" when the facts didn't match their feelings!

1 minute ago, mikeymike100 said:

Calling people names....tut tut,

Oh, Sunbeam? Cute. But let's get one thing straight: screaming "I HAVE SEEN the evidence" while clutching your phone like it's a crystal ball doesn't make you Perry Mason. It makes you a TikTok juror.You've seen:

• a 47-second clip from the agent's phone

• some bystander angles

• zero autopsy report

• zero full witness statements

• zero Becca Good's unreleased iPhone footage

• zero agent interview under oath

And from that incomplete playlist you've already convicted a federal agent of "3-shot execution" of an "unarmed mother of 3" and sentenced him to arrest.

Bold move for someone who admitted five minutes ago they don't even know the use-of-force protocols.

You want him arrested yesterday? Then stop LARPing as judge and jury and start demanding the actual missing evidence gets turned over: Becca's video, full forensics, body-cam (if any), dispatch logs. Because if that stuff buries him, he'll be in cuffs faster than you can type another emoji rant.

But if it doesn't? You'll just ghost like every other drive-by outrage warrior who swore they'd "come back" when the facts didn't match their feelings!

I haven't called anyone names, more Trump stuff......🥴..........

Try for once not acting like your leader.........🤥

You have an agenda, so don't bother trying to explain what you think, it is crap...

If you think it is OK to execute an unarmed lady in the street for nothing, that is up to you, though very strange..😒

56 minutes ago, transam said:

Have you ever lived in London...? 😆

Have you?, I have seen hundreds of videos of what is going on in the UK with illegal immigrants, seems you are ok with this. Are you done trolling me now.

2 minutes ago, flexomike said:

Have you?, I have seen hundreds of videos of what is going on in the UK with illegal immigrants, seems you are ok with this. Are you done trolling me now.

Trolling, sunbeam, I think that is down to you..........😉

I lived in London for 50 years, what is going on now is nothing to do with me, I've been away for a very long time........🤩

33 minutes ago, transam said:

Trolling, sunbeam, I think that is down to you..........😉

I lived in London for 50 years, what is going on now is nothing to do with me, I've been away for a very long time........🤩

Obviously,

2 minutes ago, transam said:

I haven't called anyone names, more Trump stuff......🥴..........

Try for once not acting like your leader.........🤥

You have an agenda, so don't bother trying to explain what you think, it is crap...

If you think it is OK to execute an unarmed lady in the street for nothing, that is up to you, though very strange..😒

"

I WILL come back to you and a couple of half a brain others ........😒" that;s not calling people names??

Oh, honey, if "acting like my leader" means insisting on facts over feelings and due process over drive-by verdicts, then guilty as charged—except my "leader" is logic, not a politician.

But nice try projecting your own agenda onto me.

I don't "think it's OK" to shoot anyone, armed or unarmed—that's a slimy strawman you built because your actual argument is crumbling.

No one here is defending execution; I'm defending the system that figures out if it was justified self-defense, reckless homicide, or cold-blooded murder based on all the evidence, not your selective video snippets and rage-fueled fantasies.

You call my explanations "crap" because they don't match your pre-baked "lock him up now" script? That's not debate; that's dodging.

If the full facts (autopsy, unreleased videos, witness statements) show the agent was wrong, he'll face justice. If they show a threat (car accelerating toward him), it changes the story.

But you don't want that—you want instant conviction to fit your narrative.

Strange? The only strange thing is you thinking mob justice is better than actual justice. Sit down, let the investigation run, and save the emojis for when the truth doesn't embarrass your hot takes

43 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

"

I WILL come back to you and a couple of half a brain others ........😒" that;s not calling people names??

Oh, honey, if "acting like my leader" means insisting on facts over feelings and due process over drive-by verdicts, then guilty as charged—except my "leader" is logic, not a politician.

But nice try projecting your own agenda onto me.

I don't "think it's OK" to shoot anyone, armed or unarmed—that's a slimy strawman you built because your actual argument is crumbling.

No one here is defending execution; I'm defending the system that figures out if it was justified self-defense, reckless homicide, or cold-blooded murder based on all the evidence, not your selective video snippets and rage-fueled fantasies.

You call my explanations "crap" because they don't match your pre-baked "lock him up now" script? That's not debate; that's dodging.

If the full facts (autopsy, unreleased videos, witness statements) show the agent was wrong, he'll face justice. If they show a threat (car accelerating toward him), it changes the story.

But you don't want that—you want instant conviction to fit your narrative.

Strange? The only strange thing is you thinking mob justice is better than actual justice. Sit down, let the investigation run, and save the emojis for when the truth doesn't embarrass your hot takes

I think murdering an unarmed lady, who is trying to leave is unacceptable, but a few of you weirdo's think its OK.......You get on with it, if it were Biden still in control, YOU would be SCREAMING the opposite...........FACT.............🤥

On 1/12/2026 at 8:25 AM, JonnyF said:

You mean back down and let the leftist terrorists win?

Not gonna happen. Trump is a strong leader and will ensure that ICE can do their job.

Don't want to get hurt? Don't drive your car into federal agents doing their job. It's that simple.

Testosterone poisoning. Simple indeed ...