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Adding an additional battery to a solar system

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"I don't want to know why you can't. I want to know how you can!"

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I am almost completely off grid with my solar system.

I can connect to PEA via my ATS when there is a need which is usually five or six times a year.

I used to have a grid connected set of three inverters in parallel which worked fine until there was a very close double lightning strike.

The first strike stressed the surge arresters and the second, which came one second later, took out two of the inverters.

This was about ten years or so ago and I'm sure lightning protection is now better understood.

Fitting an ATS and being mostly isolated from PEA suits me just fine for lightning security reasons alone.

As for running the meter backwards, I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole.

I have little interest in recouping the costs of my electric solar installation because initially and for the first seven years, I was on temporary supply at 8 Baht / unit.

It was during the first of those seven years I installed my initial solar system so from then on I had free energy.

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Just some info for anyone looking at getting a solar sytem.

So i have not bought an additional battery yet. (16kw Deye battery installed)

We have just added 4 more a/c units
Now we have a total of 6 a/c
If we run them all and the pool pump we are not able to charge the 15kw battery much maybe only 30-40% charge
We now run 2-3 a/c+ pool pump and can now charge the battery to 100% by around 1pm then we can put on the other a/c's on flat out until around 4.30pm
If we get another battery i am not sure we will be able to charge it without getting more panels currently have 15k deye system
We are getting around 70-80 kw a day and using around 20 from the grid
Apart from adding more panels i am not sure getting a extra battery would be worthwhile
Bill just came 1600baht which is great as our previous house with just 2 a/c we were paying 4-4500 most months
Well worth the investment

Panels seem to be much easier to cost-justify than batteries

@kwak250 How many watts of panels do you have at present? How much room do you have for more panels?

Which inverter do you have?

You certainly need more panels before you need more battery, and panels are much more affordable.

But you may need another charge controller or even inverter to get the best out of them.

"I don't want to know why you can't. I want to know how you can!"

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4 hours ago, Crossy said:

@kwak250 How many watts of panels do you have at present? How much room do you have for more panels?

Which inverter do you have?

You certainly need more panels before you need more battery, and panels are much more affordable.

But you may need another charge controller or even inverter to get the best out of them.

Hi crossy.

We have 22 x 705watt panels around 15500 watts

Inverter is a deye 16kw hybrid inverter

We use around 65-70 units between 8am-4.30pm

Battery only lasts to around 9pm each evening(15kwh)

20 units is used ifrom grid around

9pm-8.am

More panels would be good IF we had another battery but cant see we would need them otherwise as its only the 9pm-8am that we need 20units from

This is my understanding but might be wrong?

3 minutes ago, kwak250 said:

Hi crossy.

We have 22 x 705watt panels around 15500 watts

Inverter is a deye 16kw hybrid inverter

We use around 65-70 units between 8am-4.30pm

Battery only lasts to around 9pm each evening(15kwh)

20 units is used ifrom grid around

9pm-8.am

More panels would be good IF we had another battery but cant see we would need them otherwise as its only the 9pm-8am that we need 20units from

This is my understanding but might be wrong?

Do you have a time of Use (TOU) meter?

If not, you can likely cut you spend on night power.

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19 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Do you have a time of Use (TOU) meter?

If not, you can likely cut you spend on night power.

Hi not that i know of its a new digital meter only just finished building the house in December last year

We can charge the 15kwh battery up quite quickly with pool pump and 2-3 ac's running (usually battery is full before 1pm)

We then put additional ac's on but if we had another battery maybe 15kwh it would probably be worth it.

Adding panels would certainly charge the battery's quicker and allow us to put all ac"s on before 1pm but having an extra battery and night would be more beneficial as the other ac's are in an area in the house we do not use much .

6 minutes ago, kwak250 said:

Hi not that i know of its a new digital meter only just finished building the house in December last year

We can charge the 15kwh battery up quite quickly with pool pump and 2-3 ac's running (usually battery is full before 1pm)

We then put additional ac's on but if we had another battery maybe 15kwh it would probably be worth it.

Adding panels would certainly charge the battery's quicker and allow us to put all ac"s on before 1pm but having an extra battery and night would be more beneficial as the other ac's are in an area in the house we do not use much .

If you have a TOU meter, your nighttime (22:00-09:00) rate is about 40% less than daytime rate, and it should show on your bill.

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1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

If you have a TOU meter, your nighttime (22:00-09:00) rate is about 40% less than daytime rate, and it should show on your bill.

I will have to check

Do.you need to apply for one of these?

11 hours ago, kwak250 said:

I will have to check

Do.you need to apply for one of these?

When you order the meter, you specify which type you want. I think there awas a B1,600 up-charge for the 3Ph TOU meter over the standard.

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