This Rabbi claims there are 100,000 anti-Zionist Jews in Israel.

And he claims the land belongs to the Palestinians according to the Torah.

He says maybe Jews should be alllowed to live there, but the govt should be run by the Palestinians.

And he believes Netanyahu is the Anti-Christ.

11 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

It’s pointless trying to argue about Israel and Palestine.

Until it can be accepted that the 750,000 people expelled in the Nakba that now reside in Gaza have been wronged, things are going to go nowhere.

And if you do accept this, how do you right it?

11 hours ago, Jingthing said:

No word from you about the Jewish Nakba.

11 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

You would have to explain what that is, I can find three definitions for that.

How disingenuous of you.

In your whataboutism so you referred to the Jewish Naka.

When I ask what that is you changed your spelling to Nakba and call me out for not knowing what Naka/Nakba is.

If I had done what you did, I would’ve apologised to you.

15 hours ago, Jingthing said:

(in my experience converting a Jew is a special catch)

Except for Ivanka!

3 hours ago, save the frogs said:

This Rabbi claims there are 100,000 anti-Zionist Jews in Israel.

And he claims the land belongs to the Palestinians according to the Torah.

He says maybe Jews should be alllowed to live there, but the govt should be run by the Palestinians.

And he believes Netanyahu is the Anti-Christ.

3 hours ago, save the frogs said:

This Rabbi claims there are 100,000 anti-Zionist Jews in Israel.

And he claims the land belongs to the Palestinians according to the Torah.

He says maybe Jews should be alllowed to live there, but the govt should be run by the Palestinians.

And he believes Netanyahu is the Anti-Christ.

I was good until he got to the Anti-Christ. He can call Bibi a monster, just because he is, without bringing Jesus into it! Peter Thiel thinks Great Thunberg is the Antichrist...

3 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

How disingenuous of you.

In your whataboutism so you referred to the Jewish Naka.

When I ask what that is you changed your spelling to Nakba and call me out for not knowing what Naka/Nakba is.

If I had done what you did, I would’ve apologised to you.

By the Jewish Nakba, I presume you mean the expulsion of nearly a million Jews from Arab and African Muslim countries after the creation of Israel.

Their properties were confiscated or looted, and hostility against them was rife including riots. Most of these Jews were born in the countries that rejected them and were citizens.

Egypt, Iraq, Yemen and Libya all expelled Jews to Israel. Those Jews remaining in Egypt were expelled in 1956 after the Sinai war.

Numerically, the Palestinian Nakba was much the same but with some crucial differences. Nearly a million Palestinians were displaced in the creation of Israel, more than 500 villages destroyed.

However, 15k Palestinians were slaughtered in a series of mass atrocities by Zionist militias. Jewish Voice for Peace describes this as ethnic cleansing.

Who wants to claims the prize for the most suffering?

18 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I was good until he got to the Anti-Christ.

some anti war protests going on in israel

3 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

By the Jewish Nakba, I presume you mean the expulsion of nearly a million Jews from Arab and African Muslim countries after the creation of Israel.

Their properties were confiscated or looted, and hostility against them was rife including riots. Most of these Jews were born in the countries that rejected them and were citizens.

Egypt, Iraq, Yemen and Libya all expelled Jews to Israel. Those Jews remaining in Egypt were expelled in 1956 after the Sinai war.

Numerically, the Palestinian Nakba was much the same but with some crucial differences. Nearly a million Palestinians were displaced in the creation of Israel, more than 500 villages destroyed.

However, 15k Palestinians were slaughtered in a series of mass atrocities by Zionist militias. Jewish Voice for Peace describes this as ethnic cleansing.

Who wants to claims the prize for the most suffering?

He didn’t say Nakba, he said Naka.

Grok gave me 3 possibilities for Jewish Naka and none of them had anything to do with displacement of peoples,

The Nakba is a specific singular event and refers only to Palestinians.

My issue with @Patong2021 is his dishonesty by correcting his spelling and continuing as if he hadn’t.

10 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

Israel fulfills an essential function as the homeland of the world's Jews. Because some countries and groups in the region refuse to accept Israel's right to exist, the Israeli government and armed forces must sometimes take unconventional action to defend Israel's borders.

This is unbecoming apologism, Ev. Killing is not 'unconventional". It's murder.

40 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

some anti war protests going on in israel

Wow! I had not realised that public protest in Israel has been banned for some time. "Turns violent"--ha! The only violence in that video was by the police! On No Kings day, too! I can't read Hebrew but I hope No Kings also covers Netanyahu. His govt of sycophants looks much the same as Trump's.

4 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

This is unbecoming apologism, Ev. Killing is not 'unconventional". It's murder.

Killing is inevitable in war. Would you say the armed forces of the U.S., U.K., Canada and Australia "murdered" German and Japanese military and civilians in WWII? About 100,000 Japanese civilians were killed in one night's firebombing by the U.S. in March, 1945.

I was referring to unconventional military tactics and strategy used by the IDF, not civilian deaths.

I obviously meant the Jewish Nakba.

Naka was obviously a typo quickly corrected.

No deception intended. Duh.

Anyone with basic real knowledge of the history there instead of from social media feeds would have known it was a typo.

It's not whataboutism.

It's historical reality.

But Israel demonizers aren't interested in that.

Jews evil. Arabs etc saints.

That's the ticket.

6 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

I support some aspect of Israeli government policy but not others. I don't align with any political party. I support Israel as the homeland of the world's Jews and the only Jewish-majority state.

6 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

I support some aspect of Israeli government policy but not others. I don't align with any political party. I support Israel as the homeland of the world's Jews and the only Jewish-majority state.

Ok, fair enough. I dread to think what policies of the current ultra right wing one you support.

48 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I obviously meant the Jewish Nakba.

Naka was obviously a typo quickly corrected.

No deception intended. Duh.

Anyone with basic real knowledge of the history there instead of from social media feeds would have known it was a typo.

It's not whataboutism.

It's historical reality.

But Israel demonizers aren't interested in that.

Jews evil. Arabs etc saints.

That's the ticket.

I am not surprised you didn’t apologise and instead sought to deny.

It speaks volumes about you.

I don’t tolerate dishonest people.

12 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

I am not surprised you didn’t apologise and instead sought to deny.

It speaks volumes about you.

I don’t tolerate dishonest people.

That is insane!

Apologize for a typo?

Not even Canadians do that.

Feel welcome to put me on ignore.

2 hours ago, JimCM said:

Ok, fair enough. I dread to think what policies of the current ultra right wing one you support.

I am beginning to realize that most Israelis don't even like or approve of what their govt is doing. It's less important to me what a random person on AN living in Ko Samui thinks than the majority of Israelis.

In fact, this Iran situation might be the nail in the coffin. They are protesting to throw Bibi out.

20 hours ago, Fact said:

I have the freedom to call you an antisemite. Deal with it.

No, you don´t.

Calling someone anti-semitic is a serious accusation.

Falsely calling someone an anti-semite is called defamation, libel and hate speech which is not allowed according to the forum rules:

7. You will not post defamatory or libelous comments.

9. You will not post disruptive or inflammatory messages. You will respect other members and post in a civil manner. Personal attacks, insults or hate speech posted on the forum or sent by private message are not allowed.

10. You will not post troll messages. Trolling is the act of purposefully antagonizing forum members by posting controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages with the primary intent of provoking other members into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.

Seriously, do you really think I give a flying f... about what a person who is defending mass murder, infanticide, land theft, femicide, you name it, calls me?

Im debate with opinions based on facts, all you have to offer are accusations and insults.

8 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I obviously meant the Jewish Nakba.

Naka was obviously a typo quickly corrected.

No deception intended. Duh.

Anyone with basic real knowledge of the history there instead of from social media feeds would have known it was a typo.

It's not whataboutism.

It's historical reality.

But Israel demonizers aren't interested in that.

Jews evil. Arabs etc saints.

That's the ticket.

7 hours ago, Jingthing said:

That is insane!

Apologize for a typo?

Not even Canadians do that.

Feel welcome to put me on ignore.

You should at least apologize for that crap of a "documentary" you stole 6 minutes of my life with.

Historical reality?

Is that a joke.

All this pro Israel propagandist, Pierre Rehov, ever delivered was exactly that: Pro Israel propaganda.

Jewish Nakba? Seriously?

Most Jews wanted to move to the newly created Jewish homeland.

Large-scale migrations were also organized, sponsored, and facilitated by Zionist organizations such as Mossad LeAliyah Bet, the Jewish Agency, and the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society.

From 1950 through to 1951 Israeli spy agency Mossad orchestrated five bomb attacks in Iraq on Jewish targets in an operation known as Ali Baba, to drum up fear amongst Jews. 120,000 Jews, 95 % of the Jewish population in Iraq — left for Israel via an airlift known as Operation Ezra and Nehemiah.

Immediately following Israel’s establishment, riots lead to the death of Jews, in Morocco 42–44 people, in Tripoli 14 and in Egypt a few dozen.

All together around 120 Jews were killed in anti-semitic riots following Israel´s establishment.

Following Israel´s establishment more than 12.000 Palestinians were murdered and 750.000 expelled, widely known as the Nakba.

And you really want to tell us there was a Jewish Nakba? The audacity.

There was a Jewish Nakba, The one caused by Jews.

11 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

Killing is inevitable in war. Would you say the armed forces of the U.S., U.K., Canada and Australia "murdered" German and Japanese military and civilians in WWII? About 100,000 Japanese civilians were killed in one night's firebombing by the U.S. in March, 1945.

I'm a pacifist. So, yes, I do think they were all needless deaths. The Germans would have run out of money and eager volunteers. No more would have been killed in the death camps than were already.

Any war can end by a attrition, negotiation and compromise.

9 hours ago, Jingthing said:

That is insane!

Apologize for a typo?

Not even Canadians do that.

Feel welcome to put me on ignore.

Thanks for the compliment. We say sorry when somebody steps on our foot!

6 hours ago, Somjot said:

No, you don´t.

Calling someone anti-semitic is a serious accusation.

I'm calling you anti-semitic. What are you doing about it?

4 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I'm a pacifist. So, yes, I do think they were all needless deaths. The Germans would have run out of money and eager volunteers. No more would have been killed in the death camps than were already.

Any war can end by a attrition, negotiation and compromise.

OMG...are you kidding?

8 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Thanks for the compliment. We say sorry when somebody steps on our foot!

It’s not about the typo, it’s about describing something completely different, Naka typically meaning to smite.

Correcting his spelling when asked what he meant and pretending it was never Naka.

An apology was due and the lack of it speaks volumes about him.

•  Hebrew root נָכָא (naka’ or nâkâ’): This is a rare biblical Hebrew verb (Strong’s H5217) meaning “to strike,” “smite,” “scourge,” or “drive away” (often with a sense of humiliation or forceful expulsion). It’s a variant or Aramaizing form of the much more common verb נָכָה (nakah), which also means “to strike/smite” and appears hundreds of times in the Hebrew Bible (e.g., David striking Goliath, or Moses striking the rock).
A related adjective נָכֵא (nake’) means “stricken,” “smitten,” “afflicted,” “broken,” or “wounded” (often used figuratively for a broken spirit or afflicted person). It appears in contexts like Proverbs or Job describing someone humbled or beaten down.
These are purely linguistic/biblical terms, not a “thing” like a custom or event. There’s no prominent Jewish ritual, festival, or doctrine called “Naka.”

@Fact : The OP has the right to express his or her views on your antisemitism.

@Somjot you calling me anti-semitic without any explanation on what you base this accusation which again turns it into meaningless banter. Debate like a mature grown up and add facts or proof to your statements or stop wasting my time.

On 3/31/2026 at 1:36 AM, Fact said:

I have the freedom to call you an antisemite. Deal with it.

On 3/31/2026 at 9:51 PM, Somjot said:

No, you don´t.

Calling someone anti-semitic is a serious accusation.

Falsely calling someone an anti-semite is called defamation, libel and hate speech which is not allowed according to the forum rules.

21 hours ago, Fact said:

I'm calling you anti-semitic. What are you doing about it?

Well, that´s an easy choice: I´m going to thank you.

You see, I explained to you that any statement and especially any accusation without facts backing them is just empty talk proving that you have none.

I also explained to you that "anti-semite" is a serious accusation and even worse if not supported by proof it is defamation, libel and hate speech which is not allowed according to the forum rules.

Now, you calling me anti-semitic for the 3rd time and each and every time without any comprehensible reason clearly proves that you:

1. lack facts to prove your accusation so you desperately seek refuge in insults

2. lack social skills as you penetratingly keep trolling

3. lack intelligence as you fail to understand that, what you say about others (in most cases) says so much more about yourself than the person you are referring to.

So, thank you for revealing the true YOU.

@Evil Penevil Do you believe me now? This expression has been used in the last 2,5 years so many times for such ridiculous reasons that it has turned into a meaningless and powerless insult-wannabe, perfectly playing into the hands of the real anti-Semites and Jew-Haters, which are now laughing up their sleeves.

22 minutes ago, Somjot said:

@Evil Penevil Do you believe me now? This expression has been used in the last 2,5 years so many times for such ridiculous reasons that it has turned into a meaningless and powerless insult-wannabe, perfectly playing into the hands of the real anti-Semites and Jew-Haters, which are now laughing up their sleeves.

When I asked you for an example of a BM who had been labeled an antisemite, my question was qualified with specific conditions:

On 3/27/2026 at 11:43 AM, Evil Penevil said:

Could you please give an example of a post on AN where a board member was labeled an antisemite for writing, "Stop murdering women and children," or similar?

I was aware a few BMs had been labeled antisemites, perhaps unfairly in the opinion of some, but I had never seen anyone called an antisemite for simply writing,"Stop murdering women and children," or similar.

That was the point I was making. It took stronger wording than ""Stop murdering women and children," to be considered antisemitic.

On 3/27/2026 at 8:47 PM, Somjot said:

Now, the Pro-Zionists are fully aware of that so with the intention to silence those who criticize them for doing the same atrocities to others which once were done to them they try to label the critics as Jew Haters or in other words Anti-Semitic.

This can regularly be observed here in the forum when someone dares to write something unbearable like "Stop murdering women and children."

On 3/27/2026 at 10:43 PM, Evil Penevil said:

Could you please give an example of a post on AN where a board member was labeled an antisemite for writing, "Stop murdering women and children," or similar? I have never seen such a post.

17 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

When I asked you for an example of a BM who had been labeled an antisemite, my question was qualified with specific conditions:

I was aware a few BMs had been labeled antisemites, perhaps unfairly in the opinion of some, but I had never seen anyone called an antisemite for simply writing,"Stop murdering women and children," or similar.

That was the point I was making. It took stronger wording than ""Stop murdering women and children," to be considered antisemitic.

If you qualify your question with specific conditions then those conditions should be based on facts and as a matter of fact, I wrote that one can be called an anti-Semite only for writing "something unbearable like "Stop murdering women and children."

I´m not splitting hairs here, but my point was, that anything which is considered uncomfortable by the Pro-Zionists "LIKE" or "similar to" and therefore not necessarily the exact wording of "stop murdering women and children" might lead to be called anti-Semite.

My lately presented example even shows that only comparing the Jewish religion to others and pointing out that this "Jew only by birth" rule differentiates it from others and may be one reason for the mistrust and even hostility against Jews and therefore it might be a good idea to reevaluate if this rule could be loosened a bit made a BM calling me anti-semitic.

And me asking him for the reasons of his accusations and pointing out that serious accusations without proof are considered to be hate speech and against the forum rules just made him repeat it twice without any explanation.

Speaking of, you repeatedly stayed silent, when I mentioned those cases where the IDF was performing target practice on children in Gaza by shooting at different parts of their bodies depending on the day of the week?

Any comment on that? Or is it anti-Semitic to ask?

On 4/1/2026 at 4:50 AM, Fact said:

OMG...are you kidding?

It's the rest of the world whose kidding--and killing--all of us. Violence is never the answer because the underlying problem remains. And then repeats itself.

On 4/1/2026 at 9:02 PM, unblocktheplanet said:

It's the rest of the world whose kidding--and killing--all of us. Violence is never the answer because the underlying problem remains. And then repeats itself.

During World War II, Japan occupied vast areas of the Pacific and oppressed millions of people. Are you suggesting that we should just sit back and do nothing about it? Meanwhile, Germany invaded Europe and attacked Russia. Is your idea really to just watch and do nothing?

On 4/1/2026 at 4:00 PM, Somjot said:

@Fact : The OP has the right to express his or her views on your antisemitism.

@Somjot you calling me anti-semitic without any explanation on what you base this accusation which again turns it into meaningless banter. Debate like a mature grown up and add facts or proof to your statements or stop wasting my time.

Well, that´s an easy choice: I´m going to thank you.

You see, I explained to you that any statement and especially any accusation without facts backing them is just empty talk proving that you have none.

I also explained to you that "anti-semite" is a serious accusation and even worse if not supported by proof it is defamation, libel and hate speech which is not allowed according to the forum rules.

Now, you calling me anti-semitic for the 3rd time and each and every time without any comprehensible reason clearly proves that you:

1. lack facts to prove your accusation so you desperately seek refuge in insults

2. lack social skills as you penetratingly keep trolling

3. lack intelligence as you fail to understand that, what you say about others (in most cases) says so much more about yourself than the person you are referring to.

So, thank you for revealing the true YOU.

@Evil Penevil Do you believe me now? This expression has been used in the last 2,5 years so many times for such ridiculous reasons that it has turned into a meaningless and powerless insult-wannabe, perfectly playing into the hands of the real anti-Semites and Jew-Haters, which are now laughing up their sleeves.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

26 minutes ago, Fact said:

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

You accused me of being an anti-Semite and I asked you for some fact to back your accusation, which made you only repeat the accusation, obviously hoping that old Pro Zionist trick of "a lie repeated often enough will ultimately become the truth" would do the job.

But after I insisted on some kind of proof you finally come up with this.

Well, says a lot about your education level, and about your political views.

And about your ability to pay attention, because, you see, it says "if it talks like a duck and walks like a duck ..... it MIGHT be a duck." Comes right before "Oh Quack!".

"It might be" is a phrase used to express possibility, uncertainty, or a weak probability that something is true or exists. It suggests that while something is not guaranteed, it is a possible option, often indicating a lower likelihood than "it may be".

Or in other words, that is not a proof. You might want to repeat that lesson of the "Learning Station."

By the way, don´t bother sending me any kind of "proof", because I got all the proof I needed.

On 4/1/2026 at 9:02 PM, unblocktheplanet said:

It's the rest of the world whose kidding--and killing--all of us. Violence is never the answer because the underlying problem remains. And then repeats itself.

Sometimes, you have to resort to violence to buy time and change circumstances before you can implement the Marshall Plan. But the violence was not the answer; it was a necessary prerequisite before solving the problem.

Oppressing and radicalising your enemy, and giving away the moral high ground, creates a generational war the likes of which Western countries do not understand.