3 hours ago, JimCM said:

We shouldn't use this word, no one here sends to know what it means.

You are the poster child of antisemitism.

3 hours ago, TedG said:

You are the poster child of antisemitism.

And you just delivered a perfect example for conflating Anti-Semitism and Anti-Zionism.

The latter being a 130 year old movement to create a Jewish state would principally be a good idea as it intends to protect Jews from the injustices they had to suffer like persecution, dispossession, oppression and even genocide if it only did not come with the persecution, dispossession, oppression and even genocide of the Palestinians.

Now, the Pro-Zionists are fully aware of that so with the intention to silence those who criticize them for doing the same atrocities to others which once were done to them they try to label the critics as Jew Haters or in other words Anti-Semitic.

This can regularly be observed here in the forum when someone dares to write something unbearable like "Stop murdering women and children."

These Anti-Zionists can really be annoying at some times as they somehow fail to understand one basic Zionist law of nature:

"It´s only an atrocity when the others do it."

2 hours ago, JimCM said:

Anyway, you're wrong, there is no free speech in US when it comes to Israel.

Not true. None of the people in the video you posted were punished for merely criticizing Israel or taking part in a lawful protest. They were arrested for trespass, disturbing the peace, disorderly conduct. or similar violations. Disruptive actions that interfere with the daily lives of others are not protected under the U.S. Constitution.

Context is important. It's legal to yell "Free Palestine!" or "Death to the IDF!" or even "Death to Jews!" (usually in Arabic) during a street demonstration. It can be considered disturbing the peace or even threatening if the same slogans are yelled in front of a synagogue or at individual Jewish students on campus.

Between 300 and 400 foreign Pro-Palestinian university student activists have had their visas revoked or have "self-deported" for violating the terms of their visas since October, 2023. Considering the U.S. had 1.2 million foreign students at the university level in 2025, that's way under 1%.

And they hadn't just protested peacefully or expressed anti-Israel sentiment. They either broke the law or had done something that violated the terms of their visas, like lying on the visa application or not attending class, breaking the student code of conduct, etc.

43 minutes ago, Somjot said:

Now, the Pro-Zionists are fully aware of that so with the intention to silence those who criticize them for doing the same atrocities to others which once were done to them they try to label the critics as Jew Haters or in other words Anti-Semitic.

This can regularly be observed here in the forum when someone dares to write something unbearable like "Stop murdering women and children."

Could you please give an example of a post on AN where a board member was labeled an antisemite for writing, "Stop murdering women and children," or similar? I have never seen such a post.

Most often when a post is called antisemitic, it's because it contained a variation of a classic anti-Jewish trope involving a secret Jewish conspiracy. The Mods have on numerous occassions hidden posts because of an antisemitic slur, so antisemitic posts do indeed appear on AN.

5 hours ago, Somjot said:

And you just delivered a perfect example for conflating Anti-Semitism and Anti-Zionism.

The latter being a 130 year old movement to create a Jewish state would principally be a good idea as it intends to protect Jews from the injustices they had to suffer like persecution, dispossession, oppression and even genocide if it only did not come with the persecution, dispossession, oppression and even genocide of the Palestinians.

Now, the Pro-Zionists are fully aware of that so with the intention to silence those who criticize them for doing the same atrocities to others which once were done to them they try to label the critics as Jew Haters or in other words Anti-Semitic.

This can regularly be observed here in the forum when someone dares to write something unbearable like "Stop murdering women and children."

These Anti-Zionists can really be annoying at some times as they somehow fail to understand one basic Zionist law of nature:

"It´s only an atrocity when the others do it."

Go work on your final solution

5 hours ago, Somjot said:

Now, the Pro-Zionists are fully aware of that so with the intention to silence those who criticize them for doing the same atrocities to others which once were done to them they try to label the critics as Jew Haters or in other words Anti-Semitic.

This can regularly be observed here in the forum when someone dares to write something unbearable like "Stop murdering women and children."

4 minutes ago, TedG said:

Go work on your final solution

Thanks for saving me hours of using the search function to answer to @Evil Penevil ´s request.

4 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

Could you please give an example of a post on AN where a board member was labeled an antisemite for writing, "Stop murdering women and children," or similar? I have never seen such a post.

Most often when a post is called antisemitic, it's because it contained a variation of a classic anti-Jewish trope involving a secret Jewish conspiracy. The Mods have on numerous occassions hidden posts because of an antisemitic slur, so antisemitic posts do indeed appear on AN.

See? All I did was criticizing Pro-Zionists for intentionally conflating opposition to their agenda with Anti-Semitism in order to label the critic as a Jew hater and before you know it, I was labeled as a Nazi. In some posts even my family was insulted. Happens regularly. Never saw those posts be hidden though.

However, I am not surprised that you somehow never noticed that, I mean, you still believe the IDF never committed war crimes.

Sometimes I envy you for your selective perception of reality. You probably sleep much better than I do.

21 hours ago, JimCM said:

We shouldn't use this word, no one here sends to know what it means.

I know exactly what it means. Never again is now.

12 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

They were arrested for trespass, disturbing the peace, disorderly conduct. or similar violations. Disruptive actions that interfere with the daily lives of others are not protected under the U.S. Constitution.

Ev, as a nearly lifelong activist, I know that statutes like "trespass, disturbing the peace, disorderly conduct", ah, and public mischief and conspiracy are used on nonviolent protesters when they can't find anything else. How do I know this? Because I have been arrested at least once for each of these and sometimes more than once! Convicted and served time for a few, too.

This nonsense about public order doesn't wash. Walk on the other side of the street.

"EvilPenevil":

Between 300 and 400 foreign Pro-Palestinian university student activists have had their visas revoked or have "self-deported" for violating the terms of their visas since October, 2023. Considering the U.S. had 1.2 million foreign students at the university level in 2025, that's way under 1%.

And they hadn't just protested peacefully or expressed anti-Israel sentiment. They either broke the law or had done something that violated the terms of their visas, like lying on the visa application or not attending class, breaking the student code of conduct, etc.

UNBLOCK:

The numbers, the percent doesn't matter. An injustice to one is an injustice to all. You're surmise that they must have broken some law, lied or didn't attend class, is exactly that: a guess.

The fact is, that the Trump govt wanted to force tertiary education to its knees by financial means. Few universities were able to withstand loss of govt funding so they caved, including my alma mater, Columbia.

IOW, Trump was brazenly fortifying his alliance with Israel by trying to get rid of the keffiyeh-wearers. You and I both know, these kids were neither rioters nor terrorists. They did not deserve to be deprived of an education because they were idealists.

That's what I did during all three rounds of education, four if I count secondary. I stood up to be counted for what I believed. It's our human duty to do so.

I don't believe in law. I believe in justice. Hehe, and no shouting...

On 3/27/2026 at 1:17 PM, Evil Penevil said:

English is a very flexible language. You are certainly free to make up your own words!

I loved your post, but I would believe the sentence above should be aimed at those who have restricted the meaning of the word "antisemitic" to only refer to Jews. The word obviously should refer to all Semites: Jews and Arabs.

5 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I loved your post, but I would believe the sentence above should be aimed at those who have restricted the meaning of the word "antisemitic" to only refer to Jews. The word obviously should refer to all Semites: Jews and Arabs.

It doesn't matter about should.

It does have a specific meaning and you know what it is.

Specifically about Jews.

Your line is such a stupid tired game.

Which I why I often just say JEW HATERS to shut up the silly noise as above.

15 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

Not true. None of the people in the video you posted were punished for merely criticizing Israel or taking part in a lawful protest. They were arrested for trespass, disturbing the peace, disorderly conduct. or similar violations. Disruptive actions that interfere with the daily lives of others are not protected under the U.S. Constitution.

Context is important. It's legal to yell "Free Palestine!" or "Death to the IDF!" or even "Death to Jews!" (usually in Arabic) during a street demonstration. It can be considered disturbing the peace or even threatening if the same slogans are yelled in front of a synagogue or at individual Jewish students on campus.

Between 300 and 400 foreign Pro-Palestinian university student activists have had their visas revoked or have "self-deported" for violating the terms of their visas since October, 2023. Considering the U.S. had 1.2 million foreign students at the university level in 2025, that's way under 1%.

And they hadn't just protested peacefully or expressed anti-Israel sentiment. They either broke the law or had done something that violated the terms of their visas, like lying on the visa application or not attending class, breaking the student code of conduct, etc.

Could you please give an example of a post on AN where a board member was labeled an antisemite for writing, "Stop murdering women and children," or similar? I have never seen such a post.

Most often when a post is called antisemitic, it's because it contained a variation of a classic anti-Jewish trope involving a secret Jewish conspiracy. The Mods have on numerous occassions hidden posts because of an antisemitic slur, so antisemitic posts do indeed appear on AN.

Exactly. It was just another cynical straw man game.

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

It doesn't matter about should.

It does have a specific meaning and you know what it is.

Specifically about Jews.

Your line is such a stupid tired game.

Which I why I often just say JEW HATERS to shut up the silly noise as above.

I’m concerned about incorrect term usage because I’m very involved in the usage of the English language. I have a BA in English, am an online editor, and have authored 10 books. I know most people would interpret "antisemitism" as only referring to Jews, just as I know that if someone is labeled a "racist,' it only refers to racism one way, never the opposite way.

I’m not a JEW HATER, nor an Arab hater, although I do hate what some Jews and some Arabs do from time to time.

6 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I’m concerned about incorrect term usage because I’m very involved in the usage of the English language. I have a BA in English, am an online editor, and have authored 10 books. I know most people would interpret "antisemitism" as only referring to Jews, just as I know that if someone is labeled a "racist,' it only refers to racism one way, never the opposite way.

I’m not a JEW HATER, nor an Arab hater, although I do hate what some Jews and some Arabs do from time to time.

OMG!

You more than most should know that words have DEFINITIONS!

I'm not buying your BS!

I didn't call you a Jew hater!

I'm saying that you're playing STUPID DISINGENOUS games with the term anti-semitism.

It's ONLY about Jews, you know that, and you're not fooling anyone.

Just STOP it already. People playing gamers as you do with that term are wasting people's time.

Such idiocy as you're promoting reminds me somewhat of people saying I'm not homophobic because I don't FEAR gay people, ignoring the actual defined meaning of homophobia.

ANTI-SEMITISM Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anti-Semitism

anti-Semitism

noun

an·ti-Sem·i·tism ˌan-tē-ˈse-mə-ˌti-zəm  ˌan-ˌtī- 

variants or less commonly antisemitism

: hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group

11 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

OMG!

You more than most should know that words have DEFINITIONS!

• Yes, and many words have more than one. In the case of "antisemitism," the generally accepted defintion is "anti-Jewish," but to me, who knows what the prefix and suffix means, it means "anti-Jews and anti-Arabs.)

I'm not buying your BS!

• Those are my initials! So you don't have to buy it, you should just listen to it.

I didn't call you a Jew hater!

• You inferred I was a Jew-hater. I am not.

I'm saying that you're playing STUPID DISINGENOUS games with the term anti-semitism.

• I'm not playing games or doing anything stuped or disengenous. I've noted this misuse of the word "antisemitism" for several years now.

It's ONLY about Jews, you know that, and you're not fooling anyone.

• "Semite refers to a group of people with similar languages, and includes BOTH Jews and Arabs.

Just STOP it already. People playing gamers as you do with that term are wasting people's time.

• I"m trying to alert you to the way this word is being misused. If you don't care about that, that's okay with me.

Such idiocy as you're promoting reminds me somewhat of people saying I'm not homophobic because I don't hate gay people, ignoring the actual defined meaning of homophobia.
Yes, and many words have more than one. In the case of "antisemitism," the generally accepted defintion is "anti-Jewish," but to me, who knows what the prefix and suffix means, it means "anti-Jews and anti-Arabs.)

• In Latin, "homo" means "the same" and "phobia" means "an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something" So "homophobia" could mean the fear of something the same as you, or could, as is popular, mean the rejection of people who are sexually attracted to the same sex as they are.I do, however, that in either case, "homophobia" is irrational.

On 3/13/2026 at 3:36 PM, unblocktheplanet said:

I’ve learned a lot by talking with all of you.

You never reply to my comments 😔

19 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

You never reply to my comments 😔

Might have missed them. Have a go again, please.

Jesus, Mary & Joseph, Yahweh, Allah, Siva--can we please stop this stupid argument. Why even take the bait! Sheesh!

4 hours ago, WDSmart said:

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

OMG!

You're entitled to your opinions.

You are NOT entitled to make up fictional defintions.

You are free to lobby dictionary publishers if you wish.

Regardless of your insistence on the terminal literalism of root words only, words have DEFINITIONS.

You know that. You're playing dumb for weird political reasons. In my experience, people who play cynical games as you did about the definition of antisemitism are usually motivated by a desire to deny the severity of the historical record of people hating Jews, trying to deflect it to an entirely different thing entirely.

If you want to talk about hatred of Muslims, Arabs, purple people or whatever then you're welcome to talk about that as a separate topic.

Anti-semitism is only about Jews. Period. End of story.

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

OMG!

You more than most should know that words have DEFINITIONS!

I'm not buying your BS!

I didn't call you a Jew hater!

I'm saying that you're playing STUPID DISINGENOUS games with the term anti-semitism.

It's ONLY about Jews, you know that, and you're not fooling anyone.

Just STOP it already. People playing gamers as you do with that term are wasting people's time.

Such idiocy as you're promoting reminds me somewhat of people saying I'm not homophobic because I don't FEAR gay people, ignoring the actual defined meaning of homophobia.

ANTI-SEMITISM Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anti-Semitism

anti-Semitism

noun

an·ti-Sem·i·tism ˌan-tē-ˈse-mə-ˌti-zəm  ˌan-ˌtī- 

variants or less commonly antisemitism

: hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group

OK, OK we got it.

Anti-Semitism is only referring to the “hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group.”

Just calm down and stop screaming.

Let's put aside that Noah Webster, the founder of Merriam-Webster, called Judaism "a temporary dispensation." and defined Gypsies as "a race of vagabonds which infest Europe” and accept his definitions as carved in stone.

Let´s also ignore that there is no such thing like a Jewish race.

Merriam Websters definition of “Jew” is:

- a person belonging to a continuation through descent or conversion of the ancient Jewish people

- a member of a nation existing in Palestine from the sixth century b.c. to the first century a.d

Interesting for those who claim there isn´t and never was a place called Palestine.

It also says:

- The noun Jew is commonly used by people who identify as such, often as a deeply meaningful designation. However, use of the term by those who are not Jewish in generalizations about Jewish people, … that draw on stereotypes, is highly offensive. Adjectival use by those who are not Jewish is also commonly considered offensive;

Really? So, if I say Jewish people are very smart, that`s offensive?

“Those whose name must not be spoken by those who don´t belong to them” seem to be offended very easily.

Merriam Webster`s definition of Semite is:

- a member of any of a number of peoples of ancient southwestern Asia including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs

- a member of a modern people speaking a Semitic language

Following logic the term anti-Semitic should describe any kind of hostility or prejudice against Semites which are defined as people speaking a semitic language which again are Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews and Arabs.

Now, I don't care since when or by whom the definition of anti-Semitic somehow turned into hostility or prejudice against Jews only, but we should be aware that by using the term as such we are perpetrating another grave injustice on the Palestinian people:

Because in addition to stealing their land and taking their lives we are depriving them of their identity.

1 minute ago, Somjot said:

OK, OK we got it.

Anti-Semitism is only referring to the “hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group.”

Just calm down and stop screaming.

Let's put aside that Noah Webster, the founder of Merriam-Webster, called Judaism "a temporary dispensation." and defined Gypsies as "a race of vagabonds which infest Europe” and accept his definitions as carved in stone.

Let´s also ignore that there is no such thing like a Jewish race.

Merriam Websters definition of “Jew” is:

- a person belonging to a continuation through descent or conversion of the ancient Jewish people

- a member of a nation existing in Palestine from the sixth century b.c. to the first century a.d

Interesting for those who claim there isn´t and never was a place called Palestine.

It also says:

- The noun Jew is commonly used by people who identify as such, often as a deeply meaningful designation. However, use of the term by those who are not Jewish in generalizations about Jewish people, … that draw on stereotypes, is highly offensive. Adjectival use by those who are not Jewish is also commonly considered offensive;

Really? So, if I say Jewish people are very smart, that`s offensive?

“Those whose name must not be spoken by those who don´t belong to them” seem to be offended very easily.

Merriam Webster`s definition of Semite is:

- a member of any of a number of peoples of ancient southwestern Asia including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs

- a member of a modern people speaking a Semitic language

Following logic the term anti-Semitic should describe any kind of hostility or prejudice against Semites which are defined as people speaking a semitic language which again are Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews and Arabs.

Now, I don't care since when or by whom the definition of anti-Semitic somehow turned into hostility or prejudice against Jews only, but we should be aware that by using the term as such we are perpetrating another grave injustice on the Palestinian people:

Because in addition to stealing their land and taking their lives we are depriving them of their identity.

If you struggle with accepting the actual definition of antisemtism as so many of you seem to . -- just use the phrase JEW HATER.

Is that clear enough for you?

25 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

If you struggle with accepting the actual definition of antisemtism as so many of you seem to . -- just use the phrase JEW HATER.

Is that clear enough for you?

Oh, I don’t lack clarity when it comes to understand YOUR or better the WESTERN definition of the word anti-Semitism.

I just wanted to point out that this definition and quite often those who use that term lack morality.

You see, the term “anti-semitic” as such describes and condemns any kind of misdeed exclusively against Jews while being a misdeed by itself as it deprives other Semitic people from their identity.

And more importantly the term "anti-semitic" is in most cases misused by the pro-Israelis to label people who oppose Israel's actions as Jew haters, which is nonsense.

So it´s more likely the pro-Israelis who intellectually struggle to understand that definition.

1 hour ago, Somjot said:

Oh, I don’t lack clarity when it comes to understand YOUR or better the WESTERN definition of the word anti-Semitism.

I just wanted to point out that this definition and quite often those who use that term lack morality.

You see, the term “anti-semitic” as such describes and condemns any kind of misdeed exclusively against Jews while being a misdeed by itself as it deprives other Semitic people from their identity.

And more importantly the term "anti-semitic" is in most cases misused by the pro-Israelis to label people who oppose Israel's actions as Jew haters, which is nonsense.

So it´s more likely the pro-Israelis who intellectually struggle to understand that definition.

Total garbage.

You are completely free to talk all you want about hatred towards any identity group.

I give up. I will try to say Jew hating instead of antisemitism to throw cold water on the definition idiocy that you're promoting.

36 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Total garbage.

You are completely free to talk all you want about hatred towards any identity group.

I give up. I will try to say Jew hating instead of antisemitism to throw cold water on the definition idiocy that you're promoting.

Save your cold water for the coming Sonkhran festivities and let´s agree on this:

Feel free to use both terms, "anti-semitic" and "Jew Hater" as you see fit. But only use them by strictly respecting their definition:

"Hostility toward or discrimination against JEWS as a religious, ethnic, or racial group.”

Can we agree on that?

Because according to that and according to the definition of the IHRA which says: ".... However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic. ..." any criticism of Israel is not anti-semitic

Deal?

9 minutes ago, Somjot said:

Save your cold water for the coming Sonkhran festivities and let´s agree on this:

Feel free to use both terms, "anti-semitic" and "Jew Hater" as you see fit. But only use them by strictly respecting their definition:

"Hostility toward or discrimination against JEWS as a religious, ethnic, or racial group.”

Can we agree on that?

Because according to that and according to the definition of the IHRA which says: ".... However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic. ..." any criticism of Israel is not anti-semitic

Deal?

That's quite reasonable but I do not believe for one second that you and others playing the antisemitism is about all "semites" stupid game are ever going to really stop.

I think your lot has effectively hijacked the term of antisemitism for what seems to me are clearly toxic intentions. Congratulations. Savor your win.

Jew hating as a phrase is much less elegant but it leaves no room for such games.

So I think people in general and certainly on this forum certainly should just make the switch and be done with it.

To add, I don't really care about the term. I care about the reality of the phenom as I will now call Jew hating represents.

When I first encountered Jew hating as a boy in a similar way to the first time black boys first hear the N word, I know for sure 100 percent they were talking about Jews, only about Jews, not about Arabs or the linguistic particulars about semitic languages, and they certainly weren't talking about Israel or Gaza.

Jew haters have always been with us. It peaks and calms down in cyclical ways but the darkness is always there at least under the surface.

@WDSmart and @Somjot

Here is the AI answer when I asked,"Does antisemitism refer to both Jews and Arabs?" (my bold)

No, antisemitism does not refer to hatred of both Jews and Arabs; it is a term specifically coined to describe hatred of Jews.

Although the word "Semitic" linguistically includes both Hebrew (Jewish) and Arabic (Arab) speakers, the term antisemitism was created in the 19th century by figures like Wilhelm Marr to denote racial hatred against Jews specifically, rather than all Semitic peoples. Encyclopedia Britannica and other sources explicitly state that labeling Arabs or other Semites as "antisemitic" is a misnomer and an etymological fallacy, as the term was never intended to apply to discrimination against Arabs.

Historical Origin: The term was adopted to replace "Jew-hatred" (Judenhass) with a pseudo-scientific label, focusing exclusively on the Jewish population present in Europe at the time.

Current Usage: Modern dictionaries and definitions, including the IHRA working definition, define antisemitism strictly as hostility toward or discrimination against Jews.

Terminology for Arab Prejudice: Prejudice against Arabs is correctly termed anti-Arab racism or Islamophobia (when based on religion), not antisemitism.

https://search.brave.com/search?q=does+antisemitic+refer+to+both+Jews+and+Arabs&summary=1&conversation=08e676eec3d8bd7cb1b353383725546aa0e4

I gave the link to the Encyclopedia Britannica article in an earlier post, here it is again:

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Semite

3 hours ago, Somjot said:

Feel free to use both terms, "anti-semitic" and "Jew Hater" as you see fit. But only use them by strictly respecting their definition:

"Hostility toward or discrimination against JEWS as a religious, ethnic, or racial group.”

Can we agree on that?

Because according to that and according to the definition of the IHRA which says: ".... However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic. ..." any criticism of Israel is not anti-semitic

Deal?

You addressed your questions to @Jingthing but I'm going to answer as well.

No deal. I can't agree "any criticism of Israel is not anti-semitic." Some criticism of Israel can be antisemitic. Not ALL criticism of Israel is antisemitic, but SOME is.

I definitely agree with the phrase in the IHRA definition you quoted: "Hostility toward or discrimination against JEWS as a religious, ethnic, or racial group.” I also agree with the sentence you quoted: "However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic." But, and its a big you left out the preceding sentence which reads, "Manifestations might include the targeting of the state of Israel, conceived as a Jewish collectivity." It includes the following examples of antisemitism, among others:

• Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.

• Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.

• Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.

• Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis.

• Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.

• Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.

https://holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definition-antisemitism

I strongly believe not all criticism of Israel is antisemitic, but some is. Millions of Jews inside and outside Israel criticize the government of Israel and its actions on a daily basis and they certainly aren't antisemitic.

However, when the criticism is simply a modern mask for centuries-old anti-Jewish tropes involving secret conspiracies, hidden agendas and control of national governments, business, the media,etc., then it does become antisemitic.

Genocides have occurred in many countries, religions and cultures.

However, IHRA's definition of antisemitism, "Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis", just doesn't wash.

There are just too many parallels. The difference is one of scale. This is not to deny the horrors of the Holocaust and, as the UN has recently pointed out, human slavery. However, Israel today is visiting those horrors upon their neighbours, no less despicable.

As much as it pains me to say so, the comparison is apt.

Israeli has not followed the agreement of the Balfour Mandate which includes both Jews and Arabs. Israel wants it all and it's willing to use terror to get it. Imperialism isabout trying to streal your neighbour's land.

11 hours ago, Jingthing said:

That's quite reasonable but I do not believe for one second that you and others playing the antisemitism is about all "semites" stupid game are ever going to really stop.

I think your lot has effectively hijacked the term of antisemitism for what seems to me are clearly toxic intentions. Congratulations. Savor your win.

Don't be so stubborn

Anti-Semitism is about hating Jews. Period.

It doesn't make sense to try and define it as something else as it would impair any discussion when the same words start to have different meanings.

I must admit, I will probably never fully understand what this word means.

I mean, seriously, Jew Hater?

Why the hell would anyone hate all Jews?

That is as stupid as Muslim haters who talk nonsense about a death cult.

There are around 2 Billion Muslims in the world. How can one hate all of them?

To quote Albert Einstein: "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”

40 minutes ago, Somjot said:

Don't be so stubborn

Anti-Semitism is about hating Jews. Period.

It doesn't make sense to try and define it as something else as it would impair any discussion when the same words start to have different meanings.

I must admit, I will probably never fully understand what this word means.

I mean, seriously, Jew Hater?

Why the hell would anyone hate all Jews?

That is as stupid as Muslim haters who talk nonsense about a death cult.

There are around 2 Billion Muslims in the world. How can one hate all of them?

To quote Albert Einstein: "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”

There you have it, Anti Semitic is vastly, something else. The ignorance of the expression is staggering. I can only wonder who made it about Jews, but Semitic covers a much larger area than Israel or the Jewish religion. As shown by this map ...

20 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

There you have it, Anti Semitic is vastly, something else. The ignorance of the expression is staggering. I can only wonder who made it about Jews, but Semitic covers a much larger area than Israel or the Jewish religion. As shown by this map ...

Did you read the posts below? They explain why the word "antisemitism" only refers to a hatred of Jews. What is the source of the map you posted? It appears to refer to people who speak a Semitic language.

On 3/27/2026 at 12:03 AM, Evil Penevil said:

Looking up"Semite" on line would be an excellent idea! 👍 You would find that the use of the word "Semite" to refer to an ethnic group is outdated. 

The Encyclopedia Britannica explains it this way (my bold text):  "Semite, obsolete term, popularized in the 19th century, that originally described a member of any people who speak one of the Semitic languages, a family of languages that includes Arabic, Hebrew, Amharic, Aramaic, and Tigrinya, among others. The term was later used in an ethnic sense, even though there has never been a shared Semitic identity among Semitic-speaking peoples. When used in that sense, Semite often referred specifically to people of Jewish origin, regardless of what language they spoke, a reflection of the antisemitism that was concurrent in 19th-century Europe."  https://www.britannica.com/topic/Semite

 

"Antisemitism" has in the English language only ever referred to a hatred of Jews and never to a hatred of Arabs or other ethnic groups.

The word "anti-Semitism" or "antisemitism" entered the English language in1881 from the German Antisemitismus, which had been coined by Wilhelm Marr, a German journalist and agitator who thought it sounded more scientific and academic than the older Judenhaß  ("Jew hatred").  Marr himself is regarded as the "father of modern antisemitism,"  although he apparently renounced his anti-Jewish beliefs as an old man.  https://njop.org/the-origin-of-word-anti-semitism/

9 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

@WDSmart and @Somjot

Here is the AI answer when I asked,"Does antisemitism refer to both Jews and Arabs?" (my bold)

No, antisemitism does not refer to hatred of both Jews and Arabs; it is a term specifically coined to describe hatred of Jews.

Although the word "Semitic" linguistically includes both Hebrew (Jewish) and Arabic (Arab) speakers, the term antisemitism was created in the 19th century by figures like Wilhelm Marr to denote racial hatred against Jews specifically, rather than all Semitic peoples. Encyclopedia Britannica and other sources explicitly state that labeling Arabs or other Semites as "antisemitic" is a misnomer and an etymological fallacy, as the term was never intended to apply to discrimination against Arabs.

Historical Origin: The term was adopted to replace "Jew-hatred" (Judenhass) with a pseudo-scientific label, focusing exclusively on the Jewish population present in Europe at the time.

Current Usage: Modern dictionaries and definitions, including the IHRA working definition, define antisemitism strictly as hostility toward or discrimination against Jews.

Terminology for Arab Prejudice: Prejudice against Arabs is correctly termed anti-Arab racism or Islamophobia (when based on religion), not antisemitism.

https://search.brave.com/search?q=does+antisemitic+refer+to+both+Jews+and+Arabs&summary=1&conversation=08e676eec3d8bd7cb1b353383725546aa0e4

I gave the link to the Encyclopedia Britannica article in an earlier post, here it is again:

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Semite

16 hours ago, Somjot said:

Merriam Webster`s definition of Semite is:

- a member of any of a number of peoples of ancient southwestern Asia including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs

- a member of a modern people speaking a Semitic language

Following logic the term anti-Semitic should describe any kind of hostility or prejudice against Semites which are defined as people speaking a semitic language which again are Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews and Arabs.

You are arguing what the word "antisemitism" or "anti-Semitism" (two variations of the same word) SHOULD mean, not what it DOES mean. Despite its linguistic roots, "antisemitism" has always in the English language referred only to a hatred of Jews and never to a hatred of all people who speak a Semitic language. The origin of words is not strictly logical.