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UK Visa Refusal

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Yes, this is a gripe but it is also a heads up about what can happen with UKVI.

In 15 years of being involved with UK Visa applications today's refusal was the worst I have seen.

I don't submit applications unless I am confident that they meet UKVI laid down requires.

This one was for a university student in Bangkok who wishes to visit her mother and step father during the summer holidays.

The application meets criteria in every respect.

The refusal stated:-

"You state that you are a student. However, no documents have been provided that demonstrate you are currently enrolled in ongoing studies. I am therefore not satisfied that your personal circumstances are as declared. This leads me to doubt the credibility of your application and therefore your intentions on travelling to the UK."

That is complete nonsense, an enrollment certificate and course details were part of the supporting documents submitted.

That's it. No appeal, no ability to question the decision - the applicant has to resubmit and pay another UKVI fee.

Rant over...... but be warned, this is what can happen with UKVI - who have not got better over the years.

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    Apologies, I haven't had time to do an updated post. Essentially, I was at fault for not picking up the fact that the upload of the university enrollment certificate had been rejected because it had

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    Fair play to you for coming back to share that update, not many would. Good luck with the resubmission.

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It is outrageous if the supporting documents were enclosed. They cannot appeal, but they can and should submit a complaint.

Don't VFS hand you a receipt with a list of the enclosed documents when you apply.

They certainly did when I applied earlier this week.

It would seem UKVI did not see the attached information, you can either apply again and hope they actually look at the information,i have seen on other forums success using an Administrative review, it costs money and time

https://www.gov.uk/ask-for-a-visa-administrative-review

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33 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Don't VFS hand you a receipt with a list of the enclosed documents when you apply.

They certainly did when I applied earlier this week.

I submit online and each time you upload the system generates a new appointment that lists all the documents on. The certificate from Panyapiwat University was on there.

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32 minutes ago, howerde said:

It would seem UKVI did not see the attached information, you can either apply again and hope they actually look at the information,i have seen on other forums success using an Administrative review, it costs money and time

https://www.gov.uk/ask-for-a-visa-administrative-review

I don't believe that you can ask for an administrative review on a standard visitor visa decision

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1 hour ago, hotandsticky said:

Yes, this is a gripe but it is also a heads up about what can happen with UKVI.

In 15 years of being involved with UK Visa applications today's refusal was the worst I have seen.

I don't submit applications unless I am confident that they meet UKVI laid down requires.

This one was for a university student in Bangkok who wishes to visit her mother and step father during the summer holidays.

The application meets criteria in every respect.

The refusal stated:-

"You state that you are a student. However, no documents have been provided that demonstrate you are currently enrolled in ongoing studies. I am therefore not satisfied that your personal circumstances are as declared. This leads me to doubt the credibility of your application and therefore your intentions on travelling to the UK."

That is complete nonsense, an enrollment certificate and course details were part of the supporting documents submitted.

That's it. No appeal, no ability to question the decision - the applicant has to resubmit and pay another UKVI fee.

Rant over...... but be warned, this is what can happen with UKVI - who have not got better over the years.

Happened to my Thai lady some 10 years ago with her application for a tourist 3 week visa . She had her own business and house and supported her parents . Not a lot of money in her bank but I was sponsoring her and we would stay in my UK house . Also a letter of endorsement from my son who was / is a policeman . Refusal said they did not believe she would return to Thailand .

I have heard of Thai bar girls getting visas to visit their UK boyfriends they had only known for 3 months . Makes no sense or logic applying in a legal way as there is no appeal on a refusal or reason why but a rubber boat will get you there and no paperwork . Total injustice . BTW , how much is it for an application now please.

19 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

I don't believe that you can ask for an administrative review on a standard visitor visa decision

Yes you are correct, only a judicial review can change the outcome, there is a procedure to do that, but i expect long winded and time consuming, a new application would seemthe only way, but you have no way of knowing if this was a case worker not seeing the uploaded paper work, or a system error not linking the information

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3 hours ago, howerde said:

Yes you are correct, only a judicial review can change the outcome, there is a procedure to do that, but i expect long winded and time consuming, a new application would seemthe only way, but you have no way of knowing if this was a case worker not seeing the uploaded paper work, or a system error not linking the information

Thanks.

Either way the system is flawed.

I am not a conspiracy theorist and for years I have refused to accept the accusation of UKVI working to quotas. Situations like this cause me to question my previous opinion.

2 hours ago, hotandsticky said:

Thanks.

Either way the system is flawed.

I am not a conspiracy theorist and for years I have refused to accept the accusation of UKVI working to quotas. Situations like this cause me to question my previous opinion.

Mistakes can happen. Make a complaint. It will be investigated.

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24 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Mistakes can happen. Make a complaint. It will be investigated.

Indeed. That will be incorporated in the next application...... Unless you have a link for UKVI complaints.

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1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/uk-visas-and-immigration/about/complaints-procedure

Thank you

On 3/26/2026 at 8:34 AM, hotandsticky said:

Yes, this is a gripe but it is also a heads up about what can happen with UKVI.

In 15 years of being involved with UK Visa applications today's refusal was the worst I have seen.

I don't submit applications unless I am confident that they meet UKVI laid down requires.

This one was for a university student in Bangkok who wishes to visit her mother and step father during the summer holidays.

The application meets criteria in every respect.

The refusal stated:-

"You state that you are a student. However, no documents have been provided that demonstrate you are currently enrolled in ongoing studies. I am therefore not satisfied that your personal circumstances are as declared. This leads me to doubt the credibility of your application and therefore your intentions on travelling to the UK."

That is complete nonsense, an enrollment certificate and course details were part of the supporting documents submitted.

That's it. No appeal, no ability to question the decision - the applicant has to resubmit and pay another UKVI fee.

Rant over...... but be warned, this is what can happen with UKVI - who have not got better over the years.

On 3/26/2026 at 8:34 AM, hotandsticky said:

Yes, this is a gripe but it is also a heads up about what can happen with UKVI.

In 15 years of being involved with UK Visa applications today's refusal was the worst I have seen.

I don't submit applications unless I am confident that they meet UKVI laid down requires.

This one was for a university student in Bangkok who wishes to visit her mother and step father during the summer holidays.

The application meets criteria in every respect.

The refusal stated:-

"You state that you are a student. However, no documents have been provided that demonstrate you are currently enrolled in ongoing studies. I am therefore not satisfied that your personal circumstances are as declared. This leads me to doubt the credibility of your application and therefore your intentions on travelling to the UK."

That is complete nonsense, an enrollment certificate and course details were part of the supporting documents submitted.

That's it. No appeal, no ability to question the decision - the applicant has to resubmit and pay another UKVI fee.

Rant over...... but be warned, this is what can happen with UKVI - who have not got better over the years.

On 3/26/2026 at 8:34 AM, hotandsticky said:

Yes, this is a gripe but it is also a heads up about what can happen with UKVI.

In 15 years of being involved with UK Visa applications today's refusal was the worst I have seen.

I don't submit applications unless I am confident that they meet UKVI laid down requires.

This one was for a university student in Bangkok who wishes to visit her mother and step father during the summer holidays.

The application meets criteria in every respect.

The refusal stated:-

"You state that you are a student. However, no documents have been provided that demonstrate you are currently enrolled in ongoing studies. I am therefore not satisfied that your personal circumstances are as declared. This leads me to doubt the credibility of your application and therefore your intentions on travelling to the UK."

That is complete nonsense, an enrollment certificate and course details were part of the supporting documents submitted.

That's it. No appeal, no ability to question the decision - the applicant has to resubmit and pay another UKVI fee.

Rant over...... but be warned, this is what can happen with UKVI - who have not got better over the years.

They were awful over 20 years ago, when applications were handled by the British Embassy

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On 3/26/2026 at 10:14 AM, superal said:

Happened to my Thai lady some 10 years ago with her application for a tourist 3 week visa . She had her own business and house and supported her parents . Not a lot of money in her bank but I was sponsoring her and we would stay in my UK house . Also a letter of endorsement from my son who was / is a policeman . Refusal said they did not believe she would return to Thailand .

I have heard of Thai bar girls getting visas to visit their UK boyfriends they had only known for 3 months . Makes no sense or logic applying in a legal way as there is no appeal on a refusal or reason why but a rubber boat will get you there and no paperwork . Total injustice . BTW , how much is it for an application now please.

Happened to me twice . My wife of several years was refused first time as they said money in her bank wasn't there long enough before application. This despite her owning property and a car in her name in Thailand and me saying I was funding the trip and we were staying at my property which was paid in cash one time .

I then was told could submit an appeal and when I looked for some reason the appeal was going to Vietnam to be decided. It was turned down .

Second application after about 8 years of marriage , her having 3 villas in her name , car and her own restaurant. She had over a million bht in her bank for a year , I was paying for everything again and we had supporting letters from my mother and a retired detective chief inspector of police. They turned her down saying didn't seem to have enough funds , they didn't believe we were married and they didn't believe she would return to Thailand !!

No appeal possible and was told just apply again. Never did and have not been to the UK since 2008 ! .

11 minutes ago, ronster said:

Happened to me twice . My wife of several years was refused first time as they said money in her bank wasn't there long enough before application. This despite her owning property and a car in her name in Thailand and me saying I was funding the trip and we were staying at my property which was paid in cash one time .

I then was told could submit an appeal and when I looked for some reason the appeal was going to Vietnam to be decided. It was turned down .

Second application after about 8 years of marriage , her having 3 villas in her name , car and her own restaurant. She had over a million bht in her bank for a year , I was paying for everything again and we had supporting letters from my mother and a retired detective chief inspector of police. They turned her down saying didn't seem to have enough funds , they didn't believe we were married and they didn't believe she would return to Thailand !!

No appeal possible and was told just apply again. Never did and have not been to the UK since 2008 ! .

That is a completely unjust refusal that needs highlighting and an investigation . Especially when you here of Thai bar girls with little or no funds / collateral , getting a UK tourist visa because they had a UK boyfriend for 3 months . Zero logic and total inconsistency and the decision made by someone who should not be in that job . A friend of mine got married to his Thai g/f 2 months ago and put 1 million Thai Baht in her bank account 4 months ago . He was successful with his visa application for her .

I have heard that a UK tourist visa is more easily obtained if the applicant is travelling with a tour company .

My 16 year old adopted daughter was refused 7 years ago, we were going to visit my family back home in the UK.

The refusal stated they didn’t understand why a single man had adopted a young Thai girl and they owed a duty of care to her.

Basically they were saying they thought I was a pedophile.

This came back to bite us last year when she was rejected a work and travel visa to the USA in Chiang Mai. She reapplied in Bangkok and all the questions were mostly about me. They realised they had made a mistake and granted her a J1 visa valid for 3 years.

She has just got another one and leaves on 29th May.

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On 3/26/2026 at 5:03 AM, brewsterbudgen said:

Mistakes can happen. Make a complaint. It will be investigated.

A rational and appropriate recommendation. If people do not complain and submit the supporting documentation, that shows the error, then the issue will not be addressed.

28 minutes ago, superal said:

That is a completely unjust refusal that needs highlighting and an investigation . Especially when you here of Thai bar girls with little or no funds / collateral , getting a UK tourist visa because they had a UK boyfriend for 3 months . Zero logic and total inconsistency and the decision made by someone who should not be in that job . A friend of mine got married to his Thai g/f 2 months ago and put 1 million Thai Baht in her bank account 4 months ago . He was successful with his visa application for her .

I have heard that a UK tourist visa is more easily obtained if the applicant is travelling with a tour company .

Yes two people I know used agents in Bangkok at cost of about 20000 bht each . One had a girlfriend of about 2 months and other married less than a year . Both women had zero money, didn't work and didn't own anything whatsoever. Both approved first time .

5 minutes ago, ronster said:

Yes two people I know used agents in Bangkok at cost of about 20000 bht each . One had a girlfriend of about 2 months and other married less than a year . Both women had zero money, didn't work and didn't own anything whatsoever. Both approved first time .

Amazing and the mind boggles . Are you tempted to use an agent ? It sure is wrong but that's the way success seems to work in Thailand . I would consider an agent . Do you have any info on them ? If yes you can PM me .

5 minutes ago, superal said:

Amazing and the mind boggles . Are you tempted to use an agent ? It sure is wrong but that's the way success seems to work in Thailand . I would consider an agent . Do you have any info on them ? If yes you can PM me .

Next time will be last time I bother applying. I will probably use an agent in Bangkok if I find one that seems good .

After that trip if approved I don't think I would ever return to UK and certainly not with my wife .

On 3/26/2026 at 1:34 AM, hotandsticky said:

Yes, this is a gripe but it is also a heads up about what can happen with UKVI.

In 15 years of being involved with UK Visa applications today's refusal was the worst I have seen.

Was this for a family visa? If it was this is a clear breach of the mother and step father's rights under Article 8 of the EHRC right to a private life. Hell if the scum of the Earth are given rights in the UK then that goes for honest, decent UK families. A complaint from the step father to his MP is needed I think.

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Apologies, I haven't had time to do an updated post.

Essentially, I was at fault for not picking up the fact that the upload of the university enrollment certificate had been rejected because it had a virus.

I need to retract my criticism of UKVI (although the document, and the applicants student status was referenced elsewhere and it would have been helpful if they could have picked up the phone.

That might be too much to expect and I accept total responsibility for not picking up the fact that the document was not on the list of documents on the appointment letter.

I am certain that the application would sail through with that document; we will find out soon as the applicant is submitting biometrics tomorrow.

Given the cost of processing the application I would have thought it wouldn’t have been unreasonable to expect the ECO to, once realising the document was missing, to have requested a copy was sent.

It’s quite common for UKVI caseworkers to request a missing document in FLR applications.

Good luck on the next application.

theoldgit

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6 hours ago, theoldgit said:

Given the cost of processing the application I would have thought it wouldn’t have been unreasonable to expect the ECO to, once realising the document was missing, to have requested a copy was sent.

It’s quite common for UKVI caseworkers to request a missing document in FLR applications.

Good luck on the next application.

Thank you ToG.

My error was inexcusable and I have no doubt the new application will be approved quickly.....if it doesn't, it must be a sign to hang up my boots! 😊

9 hours ago, hotandsticky said:

Apologies, I haven't had time to do an updated post.

Essentially, I was at fault for not picking up the fact that the upload of the university enrollment certificate had been rejected because it had a virus.

I need to retract my criticism of UKVI (although the document, and the applicants student status was referenced elsewhere and it would have been helpful if they could have picked up the phone.

That might be too much to expect and I accept total responsibility for not picking up the fact that the document was not on the list of documents on the appointment letter.

I am certain that the application would sail through with that document; we will find out soon as the applicant is submitting biometrics tomorrow

On 3/27/2026 at 12:20 PM, Caldera said:

Why don't you book a hotel in Ubon then?

Good on you for being honest and accepting your mistake. Hope all goes well.

Probably processed by bots.

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10 hours ago, hotandsticky said:

Apologies, I haven't had time to do an updated post.

Essentially, I was at fault for not picking up the fact that the upload of the university enrollment certificate had been rejected because it had a virus.

I need to retract my criticism of UKVI (although the document, and the applicants student status was referenced elsewhere and it would have been helpful if they could have picked up the phone.

That might be too much to expect and I accept total responsibility for not picking up the fact that the document was not on the list of documents on the appointment letter.

I am certain that the application would sail through with that document; we will find out soon as the applicant is submitting biometrics tomorrow.

Fair play to you for coming back to share that update, not many would.

Good luck with the resubmission.

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8 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Fair play to you for coming back to share that update, not many would.

Good luck with the resubmission.

Thank you.

Although I am not the biggest fan of ECOs at UKVI (too much inconsistency) I felt the need to correct my criticism for the sake of balancer/good order. It hurts when you make a mistake and that is not one I will make again. BUT, when a mistake is made it is only right we hold our hands up.

23 hours ago, hotandsticky said:

Essentially, I was at fault for not picking up the fact that the upload of the university enrollment certificate had been rejected because it had a virus.

Not only that. I had similar when doing GF's 3rd (successful) UK Visit Visa Application last year - did it for 10yrs to avoid doing it every year. The VFS system said a document had a "virus" yet it was checked and scanned with different AV several times. In the end I converted it from PDF to JPG to get it accepted. Also, the upload size of 5MB is way too low in modern times. Scanning mulpiple A4 pages in colour and at a decent resolution can create much larger file sizes. I had to resize many pages using PDF Compression tools (PDF24) to get them below 5MB. The upload process is rather clunky too. On 1st application in 2023, I uploaded 47 files of supporting documents and had the acceptance printout listing all the files. About a week later, I got an email from UKVI asking to send ALL the files again as they said none were received! Would have thought they at least would have asked for the important required evidence in your case.

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