56 minutes ago, zhangxifu said:

This is a false misconception by pink card holders
(doubling down on the commitment bias)

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This thread is full of examples where the pink card makes life easier. TDL with 13-digit id number being even more useful. The level of effort to obtain them has not even been discussed in the thread. I assume it would be a very difficult task for those who are not married to a thai, almost impossible at many locations.

Even if you only take the pink card at the face value. You should know that Thailand is all about appearences and face. There are only to cases where it is mandatory for the foreigner to obtain one. The first would be that they have no other id and are illegal immigrant, the other case is a step applying for the permanent residence or nationality. So in the eyes of the educated thais, while dealing with the bureaucracy etc. here, you would appear as either.

I think commitment bias might be valid argument to use if people are suggesting this card is a 'need to have' or is necessary for an easier stay here...

But that accusation also washes over the reality that Pink ID and Yellow House Book is actually useful - thus those who see commitment bias are doing so from a lens of reactive devaluation.

The reality is still very simple - some people find the combination of Pink ID and Yellow House Book to add a layer of convenience they wouldn't otherwise have - thats it, thats all it is - no one is making any greater claim than that.

All I'm reading is people that don't have them, see them as useless. Those that do, seem glad they have them. UP2U if think useful, or if easy to acquire.

Both Yellow Book (a requirement IMHO), and Pink ID were very easy to get, at Muang Prachuap & Udon Thani. And glad I have them.

Others access to, need or desire to have may differ. Just stop trying to tell me, I wasted my time (~15 mins) and it's useless.

6 hours ago, patman30 said:

So not as convenient as a PP which is accepted every time.
which nulls all the "it's convenient" comments
Thanks.

Except that it can be inconvenient to carry your passport. I certainly don't when travelling 'in province'.

1 hour ago, hotandsticky said:

Except that it can be inconvenient to carry your passport. I certainly don't when travelling 'in province'.

Another 7 page thread on this old chestnut.

Inconvenient to carry pp how.

I have a man bag and pp lives in there.

When I travel eg to Pattaya, I check in with pp.

When I go to bank same same.

Pulled over by police (once) I have my TDL + PP.

The only concession I give is that some Transport offices (not all) still accept PC which avoids need for COR. That's handy every 5 years.

For me not.

Geez talk about flogging a dead horse

I'm back in the States at the moment and rented a car from Avis to get to the airport in the morning. When renting the car I said that I was a resident of Thailand and the price was half off and some insurance was included in the price. When I went to pick the car up I carried the Pink ID card along with the yellow house book for when the guy asked me if I really was a resident of Thailand.

In Thailand I’ve made no use of them but I’ve only had them for a year.

So what is the advice? Should I get one? What are the plus points and disadvantage points of getting one?

555

What is the criteria for when moving. ?

1 hour ago, baansgr said:

What is the criteria for when moving. ?

That depends on how you got the yellow book / who owns that property. If your move terminates whatever agreement or relationship you have with the owner of that property, you'll need to get a new yellow book for the property you move to.

18 hours ago, zhangxifu said:

This thread is full of examples where the pink card makes life easier.

This is pure commitment bias
it does not make life easier
it is just the same,
the punk card does not perform magical wonders
and no, authorities or educated Thai's do not suddenly treat you differently for having a pink card

12 hours ago, hotandsticky said:

Except that it can be inconvenient to carry your passport. I certainly don't when travelling 'in province'.

I don't carry my PP anywhere either, my DL does just fine,
but I typically do not carry any ID, unless I 100% know I will need ID
and no, I do not carry a little copy either
but when I know I will need ID it is not difficult to grab my PP if needed, or my DL is in the car
I also do not carry a wallet either, which would be the convenient place to keep the pink card, right next to DL...

17 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

I think commitment bias might be valid argument to use if people are suggesting this card is a 'need to have' or is necessary for an easier stay here...

The commitment bias is displayed when people claim:
carrying PP or DL is inconvenient
carrying Pink Card is more convenient
a pink card makes things "easier"
a pink card gets you better treatment
a pink card speeds things up
a pink card changes the perception educated Thai's have of you
it only costs 60 baht

all these are false statements

Enough of this thread now
it has clearly been concluded
The Pink card is not worth the effort to acquire
and is more just a novelty to have

7 hours ago, eastbaybob said:

I'm back in the States at the moment and rented a car from Avis to get to the airport in the morning. When renting the car I said that I was a resident of Thailand and the price was half off and some insurance was included in the price. When I went to pick the car up I carried the Pink ID card along with the yellow house book for when the guy asked me if I really was a resident of Thailand.

In Thailand I’ve made no use of them but I’ve only had them for a year.

So you used the Pink ID card to commit FRAUD in another country ?

well that's one use case I suppose.

I've had a "pink" card for about 10 years. It's been very useful.

10 minutes ago, patman30 said:

The commitment bias is displayed when people claim:
carrying PP or DL is inconvenient
carrying Pink Card is more convenient
a pink card makes things "easier"
a pink card gets you better treatment
a pink card speeds things up
a pink card changes the perception educated Thai's have of you
it only costs 60 baht

all these are false statements

Enough of this thread now
it has clearly been concluded
The Pink card is not worth the effort to acquire
and is more just a novelty to have

Sounds like fair comment to me.🙃🙃

7 hours ago, mlkik said:

So what is the advice? Should I get one? What are the plus points and disadvantage points of getting one?

555

If you don't have or need a yellow book, and happy with getting a Cert of Res. when needed, then I wouldn't bother with Pink ID card.

If getting the Yellow Book, then take the extra 15 mins, and get the Pink ID, as you may find it handy, or not. But will the 60 baht set you back a little, one less beer.

For us, since we are O&A, quite a bit and that is out of province, it eliminates the need for wife to file a TM30 every time we return home. Since the Pink ID does not have enough info (PP#) on it, for hotels to file a TM30, if they bother at all doing so. But one less thing to be concerned about.

We haven't filed a TM30 since having the Pink ID. That's about 10 yrs time. That's a lot of TM30 filing avoided. I'd say that a pretty handy use of the ID.

Now, will someone please tell me how useless it is. Granted, if you never leave the bar stool, you probably won't get much use out of one.

15 mins to get Pink ID vs 100's of TM30s to file over the past 10 yrs. Along with 100s of people, paging through PP.

NO THANKS

33 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I've had a "pink" card for about 10 years. It's been very useful.

Me likewise.

On 3/27/2026 at 7:58 AM, hotandsticky said:

No use outside your home province I heard.

you an use it outside your home province, but you're not supposed to.

In living here for 22y never needed one

But being married to a lovely thai national opens door as they say.

On 3/27/2026 at 7:58 AM, hotandsticky said:

No use outside your home province I heard.

That's when I get the most use out of it, as I posted about, checking into hotels if ID is requested.

12 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Another 7 page thread on this old chestnut.

Inconvenient to carry pp how.

I have a man bag and pp lives in there.

When I travel eg to Pattaya, I check in with pp.

When I go to bank same same.

Pulled over by police (once) I have my TDL + PP.

The only concession I give is that some Transport offices (not all) still accept PC which avoids need for COR. That's handy every 5 years.

For me not.

Geez talk about flogging a dead horse

You are the one flogging it.....

This is a forum and MY opinion is that it is inconvenient to carry a passport - I care little for your your opinion, but you are welcome to have one.

16 minutes ago, helloagain said:

In living here for 22y never needed one

But being married to a lovely thai national opens door as they say.

To state you never needed one, is a bit different than stating, 'have one, and it came in handy'. Sort of like, 'I never needed the jack in the boot of my car'. 🙄

If you travel quite a bit out of province, how may TM30s has your wife had to file ???

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

For us, since we are O&A, quite a bit and that is out of province, it eliminates the need for wife to file a TM30 every time we return home. Since the Pink ID does not have enough info (PP#) on it, for hotels to file a TM30, if they bother at all doing so. But one less thing to be concerned about.

That's an outright silly argument. I wonder what we'll be hearing a few more pages down the road.

90% of the people here don't qualify for a Thai ID card.

1 minute ago, Caldera said:

That's an outright silly argument. I wonder what we'll be hearing a few more pages down the road.

How so, is that silly?

Does your wife or partner, if having, enjoy filing TM30s ?

4 minutes ago, PhilipHabib said:

90% of the people here don't qualify for a Thai ID card.

Think that is more like 99%

7 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

How so, is that silly?

Does your wife or partner, if having, enjoy filing TM30s ?

You haven't been required to file a TM30 report when returning to your regular residence after traveling within or outside of your home province or overseas for probably about 5 years now. The draconian requirement that you refile a TM30 every time you return home after travel was only in force for maybe a year before it was rescinded.

https://pkfthailand.asia/update-on-relief-for-tm30-filing-requirements/

23 hours ago, patman30 said:

This is a false misconception by pink card holders
(doubling down on the commitment bias)
I like many others have been here a long time, and know about these pink cards,
and always question:
do I need one?
is it worth me getting one?

The answer to both those questions always ends up being, NO.
No matter how much you dig, those who do have them seem to overly praise them (commitment bias)
and also take this stance of non pink card holders are against them.

I am not against them, but no matter how many questions are asked.
They just seem like novelty, as not needed or required anywhere.

Thank you, this also confirms what non card holders assume.
It is not worth the effort, when there is little to no benefit.

They are not "Naysayers"
Just people inquiring if it's worth the effort,
which you yourself state it is now not worth the effort to obtain.

If you have or can easily get a house registration Yellow Book then the government are, as a foreigner/alien, also offering you a Pink Card. (60 Baht and sit in a chair).

Generally if any government is offering you anything to do with Identity you take it.

Does any expat NEED a Pink Card? NO you can survive here without one.

10 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

You haven't been required to file a TM30 report when returning to your regular residence whether traveling within or outside of your home province or overseas for probably about 5 years now. The draconian requirement that you refile a TM30 upon returning home was only in force for maybe a year before it was rescinded.

Only thing consistent, is inconsistency in TH, have a read ...

https://aseannow.com/topic/1313782-tm30-required-when-returning-to-the-previously-reported-address/page/3/#findComment-19337289

https://aseannow.com/topic/1313782-tm30-required-when-returning-to-the-previously-reported-address/page/3/#findComment-19410786

6 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Only thing consistent, is inconsistency in TH, have a read ...

https://aseannow.com/topic/1313782-tm30-required-when-returning-to-the-previously-reported-address/

I'm rather amused that you are so determined to defend the so-called benefits of a pink card that you are ignoring my heads up that you have been filing TM30's unnecessarily for the past 6 years. Do some more research; there's ample evidence that this requirement was rescinded in June, 2020.

2 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

I'm rather amused that you are so determined to defend the so-called benefits of a pink card that you are ignoring my heads up that you have been filing TM30's unnecessarily for the past 6 years. Do some more research; there's ample evidence that this requirement was rescinded in June, 2020.

l did an edit to above post, may want to read