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Does Israel Have a ‘Right to Exist’?

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  • JBChiangRai
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    I think Israel has a right to exist but it MUST share the land with Palestinians as per the original Balfour Declaration.

  • richard_smith237
    richard_smith237

    The Ukraine comparison sounds neat, but it collapses under even basic history. Israel did not just “expel a people to exist”... Its origins are tied to overlapping national claims, international deci

  • Hummin
    Hummin

    If someone argues that Ukraine lacks a legitimate right to exist, they should apply the same reasoning consistently to Israel, whose statehood is also historically shaped and contested. Both states ha

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31 minutes ago, 1tooth said:

The answer is no. Israel started out by bombing the British embassy at its inception. It was Israel's very first official act. Something that never seems to be mentioned. It has continued to perpetrate acts of terrorism to the present day. Horrible country. Horrible people.

Are you referring to the bombing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem or the bombing of the British embassy in Rome? Both took place in 1946, two years before Israel's Declaration of Independence in 1948. Neither was an official act because there was no Israeli government at the time of those bombings.

2 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:


I know, but I feel it is important to stand against attempts to demonize Israel. I can't let them win by default.

They lost the minute they post.

27 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Favourability toward Israel reached new lows in 2025 in countries like Germany (-44), France (-48),

Gee who would have thunk it. The Schicklegruberites an d the Vichyists.

The two biggest errors we made after WW2 was not following Pattons and Morganthaus advice.

Short answer -

Israel, the Israeli people and Judaism - yes.

Zionist terrorists - no.

6 hours ago, 1tooth said:

The answer is no. Israel started out by bombing the British embassy at its inception. It was Israel's very first official act. Something that never seems to be mentioned.

That just isn't true at all .

Its not mentioned because it isn't true .

The British Embassy wasn't even bombed .

If you are referring to the Rome Embassy , that was before Israel was formed

Just now, Evil Penevil said:

The third map is extremely misleading in that no "Palestinian land" existed between 1949 and 1967. In the first Arab-Israeli War, Jordan snatched up the West Bank and Egypt occupied Gaza. Jordan annexed the West Bank, making it part of Jordan, while Egypt kept Gaza under Egyptian administration. Here's what that map should look like:

MAP3.jpg

I'll now debunk your debunking...

I think all I need to do is refer you to YOUR third map, which has two categories: Israeli Land and Palestinian Land. This map debunks your claim that "Palestine" was an unused term.

Anyway, even if “Palestine" was not the name of some official country or state, it is the name given to the entire territory which is now Israel and, still a tiny bit, Palestine.

The bottom line of all this "debunking," not referencing the names of the territories involved, is that the Jews have expanded the territory given to them by the UN in 1947 by killing and driving out the Arab Muslim's (Palestinians???) who lived there. They have gone from WWII victims to current-day, imperialistic oppressors.

Just now, Yagoda said:

Why bro? You cant convince them LOL.

Yes, “bro” can’t convince me. Israel has convinced me. ☹️

7 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

Only in the eyes of hardcore antisemites. To anyone else, Jews are defending themselves against an existential threat.

I’m surprised to see you accuse so many of being antisemites

Zionists have a right to exist. But only in some place on earth where they cannot screw up the lives of others, whether Palestinians, Jews, or any other ethnic or religious people.

5 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

I’m surprised to see you accuse so many of being antisemites

I haven't accused anyone of anything. I only called attention to the type of statement by which an antisemite reveals him or herself.

6 hours ago, JimHuaHin said:

Short answer -

Israel, the Israeli people and Judaism - yes.

Zionist terrorists - no.

Agreed, terrorists of any flavor are bad,

You say you like Israel, so you're a Zionist.

Nothing wrong with that.

9 hours ago, WDSmart said:

Yes, “bro” can’t convince me. Israel has convinced me. ☹️

Dont like your boss, huh? Im sorry.

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Agreed, terrorists of any flavor are bad,

You say you like Israel, so you're a Zionist.

Nothing wrong with that.

You are arguing with folks you think you are inferior scum that doesnt deserve to live. Dont be a Kapo, fight them.

But you hate Trump more.

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15 hours ago, Roadsternut said:

More than a few posts in this thread seem AI generated.....

Anti semites are usually too stupid to articulate a coherent philosophy on their own.

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