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Is Israel trying to sabotage world peace?

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It would certainly appear to be the case, as hours after the ceasefire was announced Israel bombarded Lebanon in a massive manner killing hundreds of people and laying waste to the ceasefire that was just agreed to.

Israel can argue whether or not Lebanon was included in the ceasefire, but regardless the continued bombing was incredibly reckless, genocidal and inhumane. Why is Israel so out of control? Why won't they stop? Are they trying to prevent the ceasefire from working? Bombing the capital city and killing hundreds of civilians is likely a war crime.

Just hours after the United States and Iran announced a ceasefire in the war that has dominated news headlines around the world and pushed oil prices to new heights, Israel bombarded Lebanon on Wednesday, killing hundreds, injuring thousands and prompting Iran to reimpose its blockade of the Strait of Hormuz.

https://aje.news/pk1qg0

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  • Briggsy
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    Netanyahu needs to maintain a war footing to stop him 1) Being removed from office 2) Being prosecuted for corruption

  • Packer
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    Remove Israel from being a country, they don't deserve to be one. 🙂 The 7 million Jews there can be rehoused in other places, if they wish, while the UN remaps the area. All US funding that went to I

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    Remember when we all used to think these *** conspiracies were crazy theories? The Zionist media always made ***s look cool and portrayed arabs as blood thirsty animals. Now with social media, stories

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Who stands to benefit from all of this ?

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Remember when we all used to think these *** conspiracies were crazy theories? The Zionist media always made ***s look cool and portrayed arabs as blood thirsty animals. Now with social media, stories are leaking out. So we know now that Israel rounds up and imprisons arab children for no reason and without trial, we know that Israel man rapes arab prisoners, we see apartheid conditions of arabs in Israel, and we see ethnic cleansing and land annexation. This is not just Israel. They have infected america, UK, Germany and parts of western Europe. So we can't simply say Israel. It's the ***s.

I'm not arab, so I don't have a bias. Every independant comes to the same conclusion. The ***s are finally being exposed.

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21 minutes ago, 1tooth said:

Remember when we all used to think these *** conspiracies were crazy theories? The Zionist media always made ***s look cool and portrayed arabs as blood thirsty animals. Now with social media, stories are leaking out. So we know now that Israel rounds up and imprisons arab children for no reason and without trial, we know that Israel man rapes arab prisoners, we see apartheid conditions of arabs in Israel, and we see ethnic cleansing and land annexation. This is not just Israel. They have infected america, UK, Germany and parts of western Europe. So we can't simply say Israel. It's the ***s.

I'm not arab, so I don't have a bias. Every independant comes to the same conclusion. The ***s are finally being exposed.

Please stop your anti-semitism it is and never has been about all Jews which you haven't even the courage to spell out. The Jewish influence on the world has been profound, extensive and for the most part progressive, The fact that the Frankenstein's monster that is modern Isarel was born in the shadow of the Holocaust makes it all the more tragic. But monster it is.

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Remove Israel from being a country, they don't deserve to be one. 🙂

The 7 million Jews there can be rehoused in other places, if they wish, while the UN remaps the area. All US funding that went to Israel goes to US healthcare and education instead, selling IDF hardware funds the UN remapping, rebuilding and the UN troops needed to stop the Jew terrorists that throw their grenades out of their pram. 🙂

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Netanyahu needs to maintain a war footing to stop him

1) Being removed from office

2) Being prosecuted for corruption

53 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

It would certainly appear to be the case, as hours after the ceasefire was announced Israel bombarded Lebanon in a massive manner killing hundreds of people and laying waste to the ceasefire that was just agreed to.

Israel can argue whether or not Lebanon was included in the ceasefire, but regardless the continued bombing was incredibly reckless, genocidal and inhumane. Why is Israel so out of control? Why won't they stop? Are they trying to prevent the ceasefire from working? Bombing the capital city and killing hundreds of civilians is likely a war crime.

Just hours after the United States and Iran announced a ceasefire in the war that has dominated news headlines around the world and pushed oil prices to new heights, Israel bombarded Lebanon on Wednesday, killing hundreds, injuring thousands and prompting Iran to reimpose its blockade of the Strait of Hormuz.

https://aje.news/pk1qg0

Israel is acting with a level of impunity that is hard to miss. From the outside, the pattern looks less like restraint and more like a willingness to keep the region unstable whenever the opportunity is there, especially while Trump remains politically aligned with Netanyahu. At this point, Trump appears far too invested to distance himself easily, even when Israeli actions risk widening the conflict rather than containing it. Some of the most hardline currents around this conflict also draw on religious ideas about a divinely promised land, including passages such as Genesis 15:18, which helps explain why compromise can seem so difficult for those who read politics through that lens.

Genesis 15:18:

“On that day the Lord made a covenant with Abram and said, ‘To your descendants I give this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates.’”

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Not to forget, on July 24, 2024, speaking before a joint session of the U.S. Congress in Washington, D.C., Benjamin Netanyahu said that “the land of Israel” is where “Abraham, Isaac and Jacob prayed” and that “for nearly 4,000 years, the land of Israel has been the homeland of the Jewish people.” That was rhetorical and ideological language, not a serious historical argument about continuous statehood or modern political rights. In that setting, it came across as an absurd performance for Trump-aligned American politics and Congress, rather than a serious way to address a modern conflict.

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No, there’s no ‘trying’ about it.

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I do my morning news check most of the days, many not in English. Most are TV stations with news websites. This one caught my eye this morning, and I'm pasting original text and link at the bottom (note the link should work but it's a live article on war, so it gets new title each time an update is made):

Washington and Tehran then during the night of Wednesday reached agreement on 2-week ceasefire, and in Israel the state of emergency and related restrictions were removed, after there were no warnings of Iranian attacks until Wednesday evening.

This means that PM Netanyahu trials can continue. "With recall of state of emergency and restart of judicial system the court cases will continue as usual," stated the Israeli court. The session is to commence on Sunday.

For several years, there are 3 separate court cases against Netanyahu for suspicion of corruption, bribes, fraud and abuse of power. With wife Sara he is said to have received over 260,000 dollars of luxury goods like jewelry, cigars and champagne from several millionaires. He is also said to have achieved positive reporting on himself in Israeli media by making deals.

Prime Monister has several times denied any violation of laws and demanded postponement of trials, while his supporters called trials politically motivated.

From beginning of current mandate as Prime Minister, which started in 2022, Netanyahu proposed far reaching judiciary reforms, with which he tried to weaken the judiciary. Proposal triggered sharp opposition of part of Israeli public. Wide reaching protests ceased in 2023 after beginning of Gaza offensive, however the accusations nonetheless damaged Netanyahu's reputation, and in case of conviction he might receive jail sentence. Meanwhile, Israel is awaiting regular parliamentary elections in the fall.

Note: I'm not a court translator. This is as close to original below that I can make it. Use Google if you don't trust it:

Washington in Teheran sta nato v noči na sredo dosegla dogovor o dvotedenski prekinitvi ognja, v Izraelu pa so odpravili izredne razmere in z njimi povezane omejitve, potem ko do srede zvečer ni bilo nobenih opozoril o iranskih napadih.

To pomeni, da se lahko nadaljuje tudi sojenje premierju Netanjahuju. "S preklicem izrednega stanja in ponovnim zagonom sodnega sistema se bodo obravnave nadaljevale kot običajno," je sporočilo izraelsko sodišče. Obravnava naj bi potekala v nedeljo.

Proti Netanjahuju že več let tečejo trije ločeni postopki zaradi suma korupcije, podkupovanja, goljufije in zlorabe položaja. Skupaj z ženo Saro naj bi od več milijarderjev v zameno za politične usluge prejela več kot 260.000 dolarjev luksuznega blaga, kot je nakit, cigare in šampanjec. S sklepanjem dogovorov naj bi si zagotovil tudi pozitivno poročanje o sebi v izraelskih medijih.

Premier je že večkrat zanikal kakršno koli kršitev in zahteval preložitve sojenj, njegovi podporniki pa so postopke označili kot politično motivirane.

Netanjahu je od začetka trenutnega mandata na čelu vlade, ki traja od leta 2022, predlagal daljnosežne sodne reforme, s katerimi je skušal oslabiti sodstvo. Predlog je sprožil ostro nasprotovanje dela izraelske javnosti. Obsežni protesti so sicer leta 2023 potihnili po začetku ofenzive v Gazi, vendar so obtožbe kljub temu omajale Netanjahujev ugled, v primeru obsodbe pa bi ga lahko čakala tudi zaporna kazen. Izrael medtem jeseni čakajo redne parlamentarne volitve.

Link (not in English, Yagoda!) where above text is part of this chapter: 20.40 Netanjahu po dogovoru o prekinitvi ognja znova pred sodišče: https://siol.net/novice/svet/trump-ameriske-sile-do-izpolnitve-dogovora-ostajajo-v-blizini-irana-688875

SIOL is a news website of TSmedia, 100% owned by state telecom. Apologies to moderators for non-English link and text above.

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10 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Please stop your anti-semitism it is and never has been about all Jews which you haven't even the courage to spell out. The Jewish influence on the world has been profound, extensive and for the most part progressive, The fact that the Frankenstein's monster that is modern Isarel was born in the shadow of the Holocaust makes it all the more tragic. But monster it is.

Thanks for this. I don't think the OP didn't spell out Jews for a reason. He would immediately get attacked for antisemitism which his post is not.

It's Israel's right-wing warmonger govt to blame. And they have brainwashed Israelis to believe this narrative.

13 hours ago, Hummin said:

Israel is acting with a level of impunity that is hard to miss. From the outside, the pattern looks less like restraint and more like a willingness to keep the region unstable whenever the opportunity is there, especially while Trump remains politically aligned with Netanyahu. At this point, Trump appears far too invested to distance himself easily, even when Israeli actions risk widening the conflict rather than containing it. Some of the most hardline currents around this conflict also draw on religious ideas about a divinely promised land, including passages such as Genesis 15:18, which helps explain why compromise can seem so difficult for those who read politics through that lens.

Genesis 15:18:

“On that day the Lord made a covenant with Abram and said, ‘To your descendants I give this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates.’”

As Trump would say they have become a nasty , nasty country now - probably beyond redemption for this generation - lost in their own victimhood and now oppressed by their own fananatical technological superiority. Reverse Hitlerism is in their DNA.

3 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Thanks for this. I don't think the OP didn't spell out Jews for a reason. He would immediately get attacked for antisemitism which his post is not.

It's Israel's right-wing warmonger govt to blame. And they have brainwashed Israelis to believe this narrative.

Gemini ;

While the second part of the text (the response to 1tooth) attempts to refocus the critique on the state of Israel and acknowledges Jewish contributions to society, the original post by 1tooth is unequivocally antisemitic. It relies on classic tropes of global domination, biological metaphors of "infection," and collective guilt.

Note: Even if a user claims to be "independent" or "unbiased," the use of coded language (like censoring the word "Jews" while attacking them) and the promotion of global conspiracies are standard indicators of hate speech.

No compromise from Bibi' if you are prepared fire projectiles into Israel' prepare to die, it's a simple concept that the islamist world won't learn from 🤔

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21 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:

No compromise from Bibi' if you are prepared fire projectiles into Israel' prepare to die, it's a simple concept that the islamist world won't learn from 🤔

A bit like Hittler firing V2's into the south of England, Churchill' did'nt say please stop he flattened Dresden and Berlin and more.

I'm sure the limp wristed lefties that keep crawling out of the woodwork' would ask the terrorist trying to cut their head off' if they could please sharpen the pen knife first

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13 minutes ago, Tidal wave said:

A bit like Hittler firing V2's into the south of England, Churchill' did'nt say please stop he flattened Dresden and Berlin and more.

I'm sure the limp wristed lefties that keep crawling out of the woodwork' would ask the terrorist trying to cut their head off' if they could please sharpen the pen knife first

I have sometimes wondered if the people castigating "limp-wristed lefties" have strong wrists, as a result of frequent masturbation.

5 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

It's Israel's right-wing warmonger govt to blame. And they have brainwashed Israelis to believe this narrative.

Well... Netanyahu was elected and re-elected by a majority of Israelis. So, it's a collective responsibility.

Even if some, a minority, advocate for respect and peace.

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17 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

It would certainly appear to be the case, as hours after the ceasefire was announced Israel bombarded Lebanon in a massive manner killing hundreds of people and laying waste to the ceasefire that was just agreed to.

Israel can argue whether or not Lebanon was included in the ceasefire, but regardless the continued bombing was incredibly reckless, genocidal and inhumane. Why is Israel so out of control? Why won't they stop? Are they trying to prevent the ceasefire from working? Bombing the capital city and killing hundreds of civilians is likely a war crime.

Just hours after the United States and Iran announced a ceasefire in the war that has dominated news headlines around the world and pushed oil prices to new heights, Israel bombarded Lebanon on Wednesday, killing hundreds, injuring thousands and prompting Iran to reimpose its blockade of the Strait of Hormuz.

https://aje.news/pk1qg0

Israel is fighting for it's very survival. Easy for people not directly involved to post opinion on a forum. Bit different for people actually involved

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

I have sometimes wondered if the people castigating "limp-wristed lefties" have strong wrists, as a result of frequent masturbation.

I think they're blind already and find it by the hair on their palms!

I have been called a lefty on this forum. Refuge of the stuck in time. Damning Israel's govt is not antisemitic nor does it imply support for Hamas and Hezbollah only the Palestinian people.

14 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Israelis fighting for it's very survival. Easy for people not directly involved to post opinion on a forum. Bit different for people actually involved

I have Tel Aviv friends running to bomb shelters so I feel qualified to comment. Future Israelis started in in the 1940s...by terrorism. Once there was a State of Israel, nothing but war every day since.

1 hour ago, Toc-Toc said:

Well... Netanyahu was elected and re-elected by a majority of Israelis. So, it's a collective responsibility.

Even if some, a minority, advocate for respect and peace.

Kind of like Trumpets. You live with your choices. Once Bibi is tried and convicted, the next govt could very well be even greater warmongers. Those who speak out against war are a miniscule percentage of the lobotomised.

3 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Gemini ;

While the second part of the text (the response to 1tooth) attempts to refocus the critique on the state of Israel and acknowledges Jewish contributions to society, the original post by 1tooth is unequivocally antisemitic. It relies on classic tropes of global domination, biological metaphors of "infection," and collective guilt.

Note: Even if a user claims to be "independent" or "unbiased," the use of coded language (like censoring the word "Jews" while attacking them) and the promotion of global conspiracies are standard indicators of hate speech.

I think you might use your fine mind. Gemini's answer does not deal with the post. Seeing antisemites under the bed!

3 minutes ago, still kicking said:

The US and Russia are second and third. Both probably have enough sense not to drop the bomb.

2 hours ago, emptypockets said:

Israel is fighting for it's very survival. Easy for people not directly involved to post opinion on a forum. Bit different for people actually involved

So are the Palestinians. The difference is that Israelis have access to food and medical services. There's an almost complete breakdown of both in Gaza.

Iranians are taught in the school curriculum to kill Israelis from a young age.

Israel fears being annihilated.

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5 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I think they're blind already and find it by the hair on their palms!

I have been called a lefty on this forum. Refuge of the stuck in time. Damning Israel's govt is not antisemitic nor does it imply support for Hamas and Hezbollah only the Palestinian people.

It is of extreme importance to differentiate between people protesting against Israel's approach to this war in Gaza, and antisemitism. They are two completely different things, however Israel is an extremely thin skinned nation, and very intolerant of any sort of criticism. As a Jew I know that many Jews are thin-skinned when it comes to any sort of criticism of Israel, and it's often interpreted as being anti-semitic.

Jews and all people have the right to be critical of Israeli policy, especially now that the extremists have taken over, gotten the support of a hateful PM, and are engaging in what could be called a ridiculously disproportionate campaign against the Gazans. Many call it genocide. And it would appear as though their goal is in trying to erase the Palestinian population.

Israel must be very careful at this point as they are losing support around the world, by the day it's gotten to the point where there are very few nations who are still supportive of Israel, and the IDF. If the US withdrew it's support, it would put them in dire straits, and very isolated. And we might be looking at a failed state. They deserve that, in my opinion. I believe all the lessons of the Holocaust have been forgotten within the current very sad state of affairs in Israel.

56 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

It is of extreme importance to differentiate between people protesting against Israel's approach to this war in Gaza, and antisemitism. They are two completely different things, however Israel is an extremely thin skinned nation, and very intolerant of any sort of criticism. As a Jew I know that many Jews are thin-skinned when it comes to any sort of criticism of Israel, and it's often interpreted as being anti-semitic.

Jews and all people have the right to be critical of Israeli policy, especially now that the extremists have taken over, gotten the support of a hateful PM, and are engaging in what could be called a ridiculously disproportionate campaign against the Gazans. Many call it genocide. And it would appear as though their goal is in trying to erase the Palestinian population.

Israel must be very careful at this point as they are losing support around the world, by the day it's gotten to the point where there are very few nations who are still supportive of Israel, and the IDF. If the US withdrew it's support, it would put them in dire straits, and very isolated. And we might be looking at a failed state. They deserve that, in my opinion. I believe all the lessons of the Holocaust have been forgotten within the current very sad state of affairs in Israel.

Whether from a Jew or not a Jew, I find your painting of this as a black and white thing extremely and obviously wrong. Of course just because you criticize the Israeli government doesn't equal Jew hating.

HOWEVER, in many many cases the criticism is very clearly infected with Jew hatred. Perhaps it can be looked at as a range. Some cases obviously not. Some cases obviously Jew hatred. Other cases ambiguous.

As far as Israel "deserving" to be a failed state, I can understand that as far as the Israeli government is concerned. But when a state fails the entire population suffers and the entire population of Israel which includes over course 20 percent doesn't deserve to suffer from that.

The Israeli government as you imply has definitely not been caring much at all about international PR in recent years. Support for Israel is definitely in decline in the USA, especially among younger Americans. It's even in decline among younger American Jews.

So yeah in the medium to long term, Israel has a big problem.
Can they recover?

I'm making no predictions.

On 4/10/2026 at 12:18 AM, 1tooth said:

Remember when we all used to think these *** conspiracies were crazy theories? The Zionist media always made ***s look cool and portrayed arabs as blood thirsty animals. Now with social media, stories are leaking out. So we know now that Israel rounds up and imprisons arab children for no reason and without trial, we know that Israel man rapes arab prisoners, we see apartheid conditions of arabs in Israel, and we see ethnic cleansing and land annexation. This is not just Israel. They have infected america, UK, Germany and parts of western Europe. So we can't simply say Israel. It's the ***s.

I'm not arab, so I don't have a bias. Every independant comes to the same conclusion. The ***s are finally being exposed.

You don't have any bias, you say?

Now that is rich.

I'm not aware that Israel had agreed to the cease fire that Trump announced.

From the beginning of this war Israel and the USA have had different war goals.

Of course this war of choice should have never been started by Trump. I'm not sure if Israel would have acted unilaterally or not. I guess not.

I don't think it's honest to accuse Israel of blowing up the world for not following a cease fire (there is NO peace deal!) that they didn't agree to in the first place.

No, I'm not painting Israel as at all innocent players. but the truth is the main culprit in the current world crisis in the Middle East is Trump, not Israel.

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