More like like after US navy blocks 10 or 14 vessels, not 10 days! In case you're wondering, Trumps on a rip over in the Hormuz and chasing victory AGAIN.

Oils down, 12%, DOW’s UP, >1,000 points…Trumps resolute tactical genius and toughness..,WINNING

14 minutes ago, boganJoe said:

More like like after US navy blocks 10 or 14 vessels, not 10 days! In case you're wondering, Trumps on a rip over in the Hormuz and chasing victory AGAIN.

Oils down, 12%, DOW’s UP, >1,000 points…Trumps resolute tactical genius and toughness..,WINNING

In other words, he agreed to release their funds.

14 hours ago, Jingthing said:

That he's still in power at all is a daily reminder that the founders lacked the imagination of the level of corruption, criminality, evil, and national self destruction that was humanly possible in a future president.

yup, thank god Biden is gone!!

How To lose friends, how to diminish influence, and how to become a nearly irrelevant nation. One year of Don's menacing leadership. That's how.

As recently as last year, America’s allies and strategic partners in Asia steered clear of buying Russian oil in order to comply with Western sanctions. And many had limited interactions with Iran, another major producer.

The U.S. and Israeli war on Iran has upended those dynamics.

For many Asian countries reeling from the oil shock caused by the war, securing a meeting or phone call with officials in Moscow and Tehran is now top of the agenda. On Monday, a special envoy from South Korea began meeting officials in Iran to discuss the fate of South Korean vessels stuck in the Persian Gulf.

That same day, President Prabowo Subianto of Indonesia arrived in Moscow to buy oil.

Before the war, about 80 percent of the oil that passed through the Strait of Hormuz was destined for Asia. The sudden shortfall caused by the war has left countries with small oil reserves, like the Philippines, scrambling to figure out how to shore up supplies. Many leaders in the region are turning to America’s adversaries for their needs, as President Trump sends mixed signals about how long the war will last.

That means that for some countries in Asia, oil from Iran and Russia is returning for the first time in years, after Washington suspended some sanctions on its rivals. Last month, the Philippines received its first shipment of Russian crude oil in five years. This week, Iranian crude oil officially returned to India after a seven-year pause.

Goomba destruction. Trump's way.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/17/world/asia/iran-war-us-asia-russia.html?smid=nytcore-android-share

18 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

That same day, President Prabowo Subianto of Indonesia arrived in Moscow to buy oil.

this poor lad is insufferable, Trump is ruining the world according to him

1 hour ago, IsmeUno said:

In other words, he agreed to release their funds.

Typical Trump-hater's comment that spins the Hormuz situation as Trump simply "agreeing to release their funds" like a weak surrender. That's misleading cope and ignores the blockade, the deadlines, Iran's desperate position, and the fact that the strait opening happened after Trump's pressure campaign AND not because he rolled over. If/when any assets move, it'll be because Iran gave up something substantial (like nuclear capabilities), not because Trump caved.Bottom line: No funds released and Trumps lets Iran have power plants, for now.. Hormuz is opening under duress from US pressure. Your attempted to spin that this as Trump handing over cash is flat wrong and typical partisan framing that skips all context. You lose, for being a deranged hater.

Trump doing what Trump does....WINNING

27 minutes ago, PhilipHabib said:

this poor lad is insufferable, Trump is ruining the world according to him

He definitely ruined the mullahs world, ha ha ha in rather short order I would add.

31 minutes ago, PhilipHabib said:

Trump is ruining the world

Just for the woke twisted degenerate haters addicted to FAFO. He owns them all now.

USA WINS. CHINA DROWNS IN DEBT. EUROPE GOES ROUND IN CIRCLES. The United States is now the world's leading energy superpower:

No. 1 in Oil Production, more than Saudi Arabia + Russia + Iran combined.

No. 1 in Natural Gas Production: more than Russia + Iran + China combined.

No. 1 in Crude Oil Exports

No. 1 in Exports of Petroleum Derivatives

The average gasoline price in the United States (in absolute terms) is 17% lower than in China and 44% lower than the EU average.

https://x.com/ChGefaell/status/2045082869266026902?s=20

36 minutes ago, boganJoe said:

Typical Trump-hater's comment that spins the Hormuz situation as Trump simply "agreeing to release their funds" like a weak surrender. That's misleading cope and ignores the blockade, the deadlines, Iran's desperate position, and the fact that the strait opening happened after Trump's pressure campaign AND not because he rolled over. If/when any assets move, it'll be because Iran gave up something substantial (like nuclear capabilities), not because Trump caved.Bottom line: No funds released and Trumps lets Iran have power plants, for now.. Hormuz is opening under duress from US pressure. Your attempted to spin that this as Trump handing over cash is flat wrong and typical partisan framing that skips all context. You lose, for being a deranged hater.

Let's wait to see...

The Complete Humiliation of Tehran: President Trump’s naval blockade of Irans blockcade breaks the mullahs and shatters the leftist narrative of appeasement. "The Strait of Hormuz remains open exclusively because President Trump willed it into existence. Gas prices plummet directly due to his strategic intervention. We guarantee peace through the projection of overwhelming strength. Spread this truth to every corner of the republic. The liberal elite despise American prosperity, while patriots revel in it. President Trump delivers the exact victories the establishment labeled impossible. The conservative base understands the fundamental law of nature. The world submits to American strength. Today, the global order submitted to President Trump, securing a massive financial victory for every American family.

Trump haters: "He'll destroy the world economy!" → Strait reopened April 17 → oil -10%+, DJI-+1,000 points. The only thing destroyed is the haters narrative.

Trump delivered results where the previous admin and endless diplomacy failed. All you haters favorite doomsday scenario just turned into another "Trump win" you have to memory-hole. Trump keeps winning and you haters can't stand it!

https://x.com/FinalTelegraph/status/2045182963965407634?s=20

4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

How To lose friends, how to diminish influence, and how to become a nearly irrelevant nation. One year of Don's menacing leadership. That's how.

As recently as last year, America’s allies and strategic partners in Asia steered clear of buying Russian oil in order to comply with Western sanctions. And many had limited interactions with Iran, another major producer.

The U.S. and Israeli war on Iran has upended those dynamics.

For many Asian countries reeling from the oil shock caused by the war, securing a meeting or phone call with officials in Moscow and Tehran is now top of the agenda. On Monday, a special envoy from South Korea began meeting officials in Iran to discuss the fate of South Korean vessels stuck in the Persian Gulf.

That same day, President Prabowo Subianto of Indonesia arrived in Moscow to buy oil.

Before the war, about 80 percent of the oil that passed through the Strait of Hormuz was destined for Asia. The sudden shortfall caused by the war has left countries with small oil reserves, like the Philippines, scrambling to figure out how to shore up supplies. Many leaders in the region are turning to America’s adversaries for their needs, as President Trump sends mixed signals about how long the war will last.

That means that for some countries in Asia, oil from Iran and Russia is returning for the first time in years, after Washington suspended some sanctions on its rivals. Last month, the Philippines received its first shipment of Russian crude oil in five years. This week, Iranian crude oil officially returned to India after a seven-year pause.

Goomba destruction. Trump's way.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/17/world/asia/iran-war-us-asia-russia.html?smid=nytcore-android-share

Egg on your face. Trump did you over.

5 hours ago, Rockyroad said:

Egg on your face. Trump did you over.

If that's how you see it you're certainly welcome to your point of view, but you are completely off, you're looking at this fraudster through rose tinted glasses, and though your Investments may be climbing in value, all of that's just on paper, just wait the reckoning is coming very soon.

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as always let's expect an extension of another 2-3 weeks as it the usual time frame from TACO

10 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

onIf that's how you see it you're certainly welcome to your point of view, but you are completely off, you're looking at this fraudster through rose tinted glasses, and though your Investments may be climbing in value, all of that's just on paper, just wait the reckoning is coming very soon.

What reckoning, exactly? We’ve been hearing that for years now.

And as for the "felonies” line, people say it like it proves some massive criminal empire, when in reality it was a bookkeeping case turned into a political spectacle. No murder, no robbery, no financial collapse, no actual public danger — just a case inflated into something far bigger than it was.

So forgive me if I’m not panicking over the latest prediction that Trump is finally finished. We’ve heard that one before too.

18 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

If that's how you see it you're certainly welcome to your point of view, but you are completely off, you're looking at this fraudster through rose tinted glasses, and though your Investments may be climbing in value, all of that's just on paper, just wait the reckoning is coming very soon.

I see the world as it is, bigger than one person. It is not healthy to be so obsessed with hate. There are no rational comments in anti Trump rants. Sounds like frustrated men that have missing links in their own life and they are filling it up with hate.

On 4/17/2026 at 10:13 AM, boganJoe said:

The Complete Humiliation of Tehran: President Trump’s naval blockade of Irans blockcade breaks the mullahs and shatters the leftist narrative of appeasement. "The Strait of Hormuz remains open exclusively because President Trump willed it into existence. Gas prices plummet directly due to his strategic intervention. We guarantee peace through the projection of overwhelming strength. Spread this truth to every corner of the republic. The liberal elite despise American prosperity, while patriots revel in it. President Trump delivers the exact victories the establishment labeled impossible. The conservative base understands the fundamental law of nature. The world submits to American strength. Today, the global order submitted to President Trump, securing a massive financial victory for every American family.

Trump haters: "He'll destroy the world economy!" → Strait reopened April 17 → oil -10%+, DJI-+1,000 points. The only thing destroyed is the haters narrative.

Trump delivered results where the previous admin and endless diplomacy failed. All you haters favorite doomsday scenario just turned into another "Trump win" you have to memory-hole. Trump keeps winning and you haters can't stand it!

https://x.com/FinalTelegraph/status/2045182963965407634?s=20

You claim "Trump keeps winning and you haters can't stand it!" Can you tell us exactly what Trump is winning? The haters, as you call them, are disgusted at the damage he has caused throughout the world.

Many economies are on the brink of collapse. Do you call that winning?

36 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

You claim "Trump keeps winning and you haters can't stand it!" Can you tell us exactly what Trump is winning? The haters, as you call them, are disgusted at the damage he has caused throughout the world.

Many economies are on the brink of collapse. Do you call that winning?

Many countries got a wake up call! Have 6 months supply or oil and gas! So many dumb voters and dumb leaders. Totally clueless how to build a nation.

On 4/16/2026 at 6:04 AM, atpeace said:

The USA will will increase output and this will help only a little. The reason while oil is not as short in supply as expected is because of the Saudis and there foresight. They have now increased their output by 5.5 million barrels a day going through pipelines to avoid the straight. Amazing that they did this in a few weeks!

Saudi Arabia's East-West Pipeline, also known as Petroline, is a crucial conduit for global oil supplies, especially during times of geopolitical conflict. The pipeline, which connects the Abqaij oil field in the Eastern Province to the port of Yanbu on the Red Sea, has been operational since the 1980s

29 minutes ago, Cave Johnson said:

Saudi Arabia's East-West Pipeline, also known as Petroline, is a crucial conduit for global oil supplies, especially during times of geopolitical conflict. The pipeline, which connects the Abqaij oil field in the Eastern Province to the port of Yanbu on the Red Sea, has been operational since the 1980s

You made this post and immediately got a thumbs down. There are many that don't like what is happening the last 10 days and would rather see more destruction and killing at the expense of the Iranian people who have suffered enough. They are so wrapped up in their politics they have become despicable :) A teaspoon of awareness would be my prescription for them.

Hey, I dislike Trump as a person but do my best to not let it detach me from reality. Why can't people ditch their political party and be independent thinkers? I'm not the smartest tool in the shed but have figured out the futility of political party attachment. Maybe if other realised they know much less than they think they do...

2 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

You claim "Trump keeps winning and you haters can't stand it!" Can you tell us exactly what Trump is winning? The haters, as you call them, are disgusted at the damage he has caused throughout the world.

Many economies are on the brink of collapse. Do you call that winning?

A little dramatic? The world has already patched the oil supply issue and we are down roughly 8 million barrels a day from the initial 20 million. In a few more months, I bet we will be back to the 106 million pre-war shipped output. The price is now about 8% higher than the average the last 5 years. 20 years ago it was much higher as in 50%.

The dire prediction are just media scare tactics to get clicks. It will take a decade to replace the lost production, all the oil being diverted through pipelines will sit in ports because the Red Sea ports can only handle 4.5 million of the barrels and will take years to upgrade ( took the Saudis a week), .........

Trump hasn't won anything as of yet IMO. I'm hopeful that changes with Iran conceding to almost all his demands which would make Iran a non-threat to the region and global prosperity. I'm not looking forward to his gloating shenanigans - he is a jerk.

3 hours ago, Rockyroad said:

Many countries got a wake up call! Have 6 months supply or oil and gas! So many dumb voters and dumb leaders. Totally clueless how to build a nation.

They are learning from Trump how to take down a great nation. Their wake up call is that they never thought the great nation of America would tolerate an imbecile like Trump.

8 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

They are learning from Trump how to take down a great nation. Their wake up call is that they never thought the great nation of America would tolerate an imbecile like Trump.

American produces the most oil 555

1 hour ago, atpeace said:

A little dramatic? The world has already patched the oil supply issue and we are down roughly 8 million barrels a day from the initial 20 million. In a few more months, I bet we will be back to the 106 million pre-war shipped output. The price is now about 8% higher than the average the last 5 years. 20 years ago it was much higher as in 50%.

The dire prediction are just media scare tactics to get clicks. It will take a decade to replace the lost production, all the oil being diverted through pipelines will sit in ports because the Red Sea ports can only handle 4.5 million of the barrels and will take years to upgrade ( took the Saudis a week), .........

Trump hasn't won anything as of yet IMO. I'm hopeful that changes with Iran conceding to almost all his demands which would make Iran a non-threat to the region and global prosperity. I'm not looking forward to his gloating shenanigans - he is a jerk.

Good to see you agree with me about Trump, although I disagree with you about the worldwide oil supply issue. It is not only oil, but also LNG supplies that are down and both will be down for some time. Some critical infrastructure in the Gulf states have been damaged by Iranian strikes and are estimated to take several years to repair.

10 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

American produces the most oil 555

Yes, thanks to fracking, however there's not enough to make up the existing shortages.

52 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

Yes, thanks to fracking, however there's not enough to make up the existing shortages.

Even China, with its large fuel reserves, is quietly cancelling airline flights. They know that the normal flow of oil is not coming back anytime soon. Jet fuel prices have doubled!

23 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

Even China, with its large fuel reserves, is quietly cancelling airline flights. They know that the normal flow of oil is not coming back anytime soon. Jet fuel prices have doubled!

Why are airlines having sales then?

6 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

Why are airlines having sales then?

To take mugs like yourself money,then give you credit to use but no refund.

1 hour ago, Hawaiian said:

Good to see you agree with me about Trump, although I disagree with you about the worldwide oil supply issue. It is not only oil, but also LNG supplies that are down and both will be down for some time. Some critical infrastructure in the Gulf states have been damaged by Iranian strikes and are estimated to take several years to repair.

That very well may be the case. I can only try to make an educated guess with all my biases.

I predict within 6 months the LNG shipment will be equal to pre war levels and all the other stuff the region produces (fertilizer, helium, etc). Humans patch major issues quickly and in the end it is a fraction as bad as the media (conservative and liberal) uses to frighten us.

Loads of options will suddenly appear - this always happens. Like the Saudis getting over the pundits claim the Red Sea ports could only handle 4.5 million barrels because that is what the manuals states. 10 days later they have the capacity to ship 7 million.

I'm seriously curious. How would you feel if Iran concedes to almost all Trump's demands? I know, understandably, your hatred for Trump makes it harder than those that support him but beyond this hatred do you feel Iran having to concede to all Trump's demands a bad outcome?

I don't think either of us of us know if this war will be a win for the Iranian people. The bar pre war was extremely low and hard to imagine it getting much worse but maybe.