2 minutes ago, phetphet said:

Hey!! We have our Marmite.

Which is ok. B vitamins and protein. Can't go wrong. Peanut Butter is high fat. Jams high sugar.

The marketing is targeted to true idiots, who don't read the labels. Eating healthy is easy. Well, now that I know how 🙄

Pretty much know what my past failures were ... pastries (sugar). Aside from that, I've always eaten fairly well.

If in TH, easy enough to have blood test, to find out how you diet is affecting your body. Could even get the vitamin/mineral test for exact numbers, what needed or too much of.

Hematology, kidney & liver function test pretty much cover everything. Nobody has to ask if they are overweight or obese, or how that happened. BMI calculator would give anyone a rough idea, not that most need to actually see it to believe it.

2 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

The marketing is targeted to true idiots, who don't read the labels. Eating healthy is easy. Well, now that I know how 🙄

Pretty much know what my past failures were ... pastries (sugar). Aside from that, I've always eaten fairly well.

If in TH, easy enough to have blood test, to find out how you diet is affecting your body. Could even get the vitamin/mineral test for exact numbers, what needed or too much of.

Hematology, kidney & liver function test pretty much cover everything. Nobody has to ask if they are overweight or obese, or how that happened. BMI calculator would give anyone a rough idea, not that most need to actually see it to believe it.

Reading 50 labels is time consuming. The you have numbers for preservatives.

6 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

Reading 50 labels is time consuming. The you have numbers for preservatives.

More numbers than ingredients you know, it stays on the shelf. I rarely buy foods that have labels. Many of 'number's are safe, as if stating what they were, might scare them away, as reads like a chem lab.

The preservative could simply citric acid, or carcinogens, like some food colorings, which I stay away from. Origin is good also, imports, EU better than USA. TH doesn't do GMO, emphasis on TH, doesn't mean it's not sold here.

Copy this to you phone for ball park idea, what they are. Aside from numbers, the first 3 or 4 ingredients give you an idea how healthy it may be, as always listed by volume.

17 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

More numbers than ingredients you know, it stays on the shelf. I rarely buy foods that have labels. Many of 'number's are safe, as if stating what they were, might scare them away, as reads like a chem lab.

The preservative could simply citric acid, or carcinogens, like some food colorings, which I stay away from. Origin is good also, imports, EU better than USA. TH doesn't do GMO, emphasis on TH, doesn't mean it's not sold here.

Copy this to you phone for ball park idea, what they are. Aside from numbers, the first 3 or 4 ingredients give you an idea how healthy it may be, as always listed by volume.

No added sugar is a good start. Yoghurt now says natural sugar and added sugar.

22 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

No added sugar is a good start. Yoghurt now says natural sugar and added sugar.

Plus the nutritional fat / protein / carb breakdown is best for sugar intake, if not one of the first 3 ingredients.

It doesn't take much to read the labels, especially your most common purchases, as sitting right there in your cabinet. Simply read, and you'll know if wanting to buy again, or at least cut back.

Don't read the Ritz cracker label, and was I go to cracker. Eliminated from my diet now.

Serving size is another way to think things aren't too unhealthy, till you realize that whole large tube of Pringles isn't 1 serving 🙄

Edited April 27Apr 27 by KhunLA

1 minute ago, KhunLA said:

Plus the nutritional fat / protein / carb breakdown is best for sugar intake, if not one of the first 3 ingredients.

The fine print is decent. It is just annoying to have to read it. The big print is marketing and lies.

8 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Plus the nutritional fat / protein / carb breakdown is best for sugar intake, if not one of the first 3 ingredients.

It doesn't take much to read the labels, especially your most common purchases, as sitting right there in your cabinet. Simply read, and you'll know if wanting to buy again, or at least cut back.

Don't read the Ritz cracker label, and was I go to cracker. Eliminated from my diet now.

Serving size is another way to think things aren't too unhealthy, till you realize that whole large tube of Pringles isn't 1 serving 🙄

They pick the serving size. This milk is 250ml serving size with 10g protein in big print. But that is 4%. So really just low. Cottage cheese is 10%.

Cottage cheese is casein protein without lots of liquid.

Milk is largely a scam.

Cottage cheese and low fat yoghurt are far better for you.

4 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

Milk is largely a scam.

Cottage cheese and low fat yoghurt are far better for you.

Anything low-fat means the fat has been replaced with more carbs/sugar/fillers.

Your so called knowledge about nutrition is appalling and largely a scam. If anyone applied your bad nutritional advice they would look more like you. Needles to say nobody wants that.

14 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

Milk is largely a scam.

I wouldn't call it a scam, only to ignorant people if thinking it nutrition dense, and not a lot of saturated fat. Whole milk any way, which I use to drink a lot of. 25% of your saturated fat in a small glass of milk is not nutritious.

No or low fat isn't even a consideration, and I can't drink them.

Edited April 27Apr 27 by KhunLA

10 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

I wouldn't call it a scam, only to ignorant people if thinking it nutrition dense, and not a lot of saturated fat. Whole milk any way, which I use to drink a lot of. 25% of your saturated fat in a small glass of milk is not nutritious.

No or low fat isn't even a consideration, and I can't drink them.

I found that Almond milk mixed with soy protein is lower calories. Only 4% almonds though. 4.1% protein.

A post with baiting troll comments toward another member has been removed. Please stick to the topic that is being discussed.

35 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

I found that Almond milk mixed with soy protein is lower calories. Only 4% almonds though. 4.1% protein.

Any other milks I've tried, I didn't care for. Milk is 100% whole cow's milk, or it's not milk.

The canned tuna I buy?

The label just says tuna.

It is very high in tuna.

39 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Any other milks I've tried, I didn't care for. Milk is 100% whole cow's milk, or it's not milk.

Milk can also be 100-percent goat milk, even if it's not milk, then?

6 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

The canned tuna I buy?

The label just says tuna.

It is very high in tuna.

3 types of tuna

9 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Any other milks I've tried, I didn't care for. Milk is 100% whole cow's milk, or it's not milk.

The problem with cow's milk is that up to 70% of people have a hard time digesting it. It's for calves. Almond, oat, pistachio, soy and other plant based "milks" especially the unsweetened and oil free kinds, are a better source.

You don't have to look at milk as a protein source anyway, as most people can easily get enough protein in a daily diet, besides the Vegans, who have to understand food combining to get all the essential amino acids.

For children it's a decent source of protein, but again, like I found out being allergic to milk as a child, there are other sources with less chance of an allergic reaction, some that aren't readily apparent. This lists the pros and cons..https://www.healthline.com/health/is-milk-bad-for-you#side-effects

Edited April 27Apr 27 by fredwiggy

20 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

What will iam not said was correct. "Honey, oats, wheat flakes, are all good for you as in muesli.". Those, along with other grains, oatmeal, rice, quinoa, barley, millet, etc, are all healthy choices, with good fiber and prebiotics for the gut health.

People that run marathons are usually running all the time, and use heavy carbs for training. You can basically eat whatever you want if you're a long distance runner,,albeit sticking to healthy choices, as you're burning calories more that way than most others besides downhill skiing. I've known a few who gorged on pasta before their runs, as well as pizza, and they all are healthy and did well.

Downhill skiing is great, it the uphill skiing that's a problem. Sounds very much like trying to be in two places at once. Another trick I never did learn!

6 minutes ago, Surasak said:

Downhill skiing is great, it the uphill skiing that's a problem. Sounds very much like trying to be in two places at once. Another trick I never did learn!

This might help.................https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwIF02uRuOg.

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

This might help.................https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwIF02uRuOg.

Thanks, but too old for kids tricks now. Not to say I wouldn't have tried 70 years ago, but skiing trips were of the menu back then.

6 hours ago, Rockyroad said:

3 types of tuna

All Tuna is good tuna.

4% milk means 4% FAT. I.e. not skimmed milk. Has nothing to do with protein content which is mainly CASEIN and in the case of nearly all dairy breeds is type-1 casein and potentially harmful to health. Every female mammal other than the cow - human, goat, ewe, mare, buffalo (and south European cows such as Guernseys - but not Jerseys which produce half-and-half) are good for type-2 casein.

Most supposed lactose allergies are probably casein allergies. Scandinavians' bodies continue to produce lactase into adulthood, as do many of Celtic ancestry. But lack of it beyond age two years may be a problem for others, especially Africans and Asians.

Further point: cow's milk contains powerful growth hormones needed to turn a tiny calf into something huge. These hormones are not destroyed by heat. May help explain increasing sizes of children brought up on cow's milk, commonly attributed to "better nutrition".

Goat's milk is closer to mother's milk, and more easily assimilable due to much finer fat globules (difficult to make goat's butter!)

'Marmite' and 'Vegemite' are good sources of B vitamins, but also high in sodium chloride which is itself essential for the metabolism. Should not be eliminated, especially in a hot climate (despite some ability to adapt by excreting less). But it must be BALANCED with potassium, deficient in modern diets. Available from dark leafy greens, bananas, etc. [eat bananas when ripening not unripened - constipating - nor fully ripened - spikes blood glucose] Potassium choride salt for seasoning, to balance sodium, can be purchased online.

Edited April 28Apr 28 by ericbj

22 minutes ago, ericbj said:

4% milk means 4% FAT.

Is the take from this that there are people walking among us who think that a milk carton marked as 4% only contains 4% milk by volume?

If so the human world is doomed.

On 4/27/2026 at 8:46 AM, cjinchiangrai said:

Vegemite is also high sodium and disgusting.

Each to his own bud ,it's all about Taste what one likes or not .

Peanut paste and Jam , cheese and sugar , tomato and sugar ,chips and mayo.And many more .

23 minutes ago, digger70 said:

Each to his own bud ,it's all about Taste what one likes or not .

Peanut paste and Jam , cheese and sugar , tomato and sugar ,chips and mayo.And many more .

Eat what you like but the phony nutrition posturing by the OP is annoying.

On 4/27/2026 at 10:46 AM, Rockyroad said:

Your high carb diet caused that

Protein builds muscle, but carbs make it possible to train and recover well enough to build it! Muscles also need the glycogen provided by carbs.

18 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Any other milks I've tried, I didn't care for. Milk is 100% whole cow's milk, or it's not milk.

I quite like the organic, grass fed cow’s milk I find at Villa Market.

4 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Eat what you like but the phony nutrition posturing by the OP is annoying.

I like building muscle. You don't.

3 hours ago, Globalres said:

Protein builds muscle, but carbs make it possible to train and recover well enough to build it! Muscles also need the glycogen provided by carbs.

You are correct there.

8 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

I like building muscle. You don't.

Which one?