Just now, Lacessit said:

Obviously, more eloqently than someone who can only repeat "you're lying " like a broken record, using multiple evasions. As expected.

And all you can do is cut and paste. You were going to provide evidence of Trump being a racist, and all you could come up with was a bad taste Obama monkey meme.

Just now, Lacessit said:

"Landman" is a TV series starring Billy Bob Thornton as an oil industry executive and fixer.

I'll take your word for it on the Big Oil investments.

Oh, a TV show.

If you need sources on the oil investments:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/growing-ev-adoption-reshaping-oil-100021640.html

https://www.energymonitor.ai/tech/networks-grids/how-oil-majors-penetrated-the-ev-charging-market/

https://www.batterytechonline.com/industry-outlook/oil-and-gas-corporations-investing-in-lithium-ion-batteries

Not particular unique for oil companies to pivot. The good ones will. Take Kodak and Fujifilm. Kodak bet poorly, stayed too long in the photographic film business. Fujifilm; took their core chemistry knowhow, got into advanced materials. Took their imaging knowhow; big in healthcare now. Nokia; it was a paper mill before it became a phone company. Now the phone business has all but gone.

My old employer, Smiths. Mr Smith was a watchmaker, who figured when those first planes appeared that the pilots might want a clock, to know when they ran out of fuel, then the clock became a instrument. And before you knew it, instruments in cars were either Smiths or Jaeger. But Smiths hasn't sold a single car instrument since about 1984, and the company moved into medicals, defence, oil rigs, big engineering, security etc. BAT and Philips Morris will be around long after people have given up ciggies (smoking is still increasing in developing economies), ditto the oil companies; its not all about clamping down on innovation.

I doubt EVs will be around for as long as ICE, but then CDs weren't around as long records. So thats not a comment that EVs are worse that ICE cars, but a reflection about how we use transport. The petrol car was around for 150 years, but domesticated horses, 10,000 years. A horse could take you a long way, as long as you could feed from a field along the way. A petrol car could take you a long way as long as you could find a petrol station. An EV will take quite a long way as long as you can find a 3-pin plug.

Just now, Yellowtail said:

Is it your position that Iran should be allowed to continue developing their intercontinental ballistic missile, military drone, and nuclear programs?

Should Iran be allowed to continue funding their terrorist proxies?

If this is a serious question (I doubt it is given what goes on between your ears, but I'll entertain you, you muppet):

1. Yes, because such research can also develop into research for the good of mankind. Ask Werner Von Braun. Where would America be without a German Army scientist. No microwaves and no Tang.

2. Yes, on the same basis that I wouldn't ban the Iranian army from possessing rifles.

3. You question is inprecise. If you mean Iran must be banned from possessing nuclear power stations, irradiating medical supplies or treating patients, then I would suggest you are an utterly evil barsteward with no redeeming features except that you mum must of loved your for at least a day. But if you mean nuclear weapons, no, with a caveat, that research on nuclear weapons must be banned universally; we have gotten to the same stage chemical weapons reached in the 1920s, when they stopped being considered critical to a nation's defence. The invention of very low yield nuclear weapons has made it now incredibly likely that a baby boomer some place will attack a country with nuclear weapons because they reckon they can win. I hope to god that all these baby boomers shuffle off this planet poste haste,, they've already robbed us blind and done enough damage, without leaving us that toxic legacy.

4. Terrorism; maybe the US can set an example here. You lot funded the IRA. I have never seen US compensation paid to the victims of Irish terrorism. Own up and Pay up. You supplied the Armalites, the Barratts, the bullets. The US can also stop funding proxies. Israel has its own nuclear weapons. It no longer need free US weapons.

Now you do the same, and no Yes/No answers. Justify every point.

Is it your position that the United States should be allowed to continue developing their intercontinental ballistic missiles, military drones, and nuclear programmes?

Should the United States be allowed to fund terrorist proxies?

Just now, Roadsternut said:

Oh, a TV show.

If you need sources on the oil investments:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/growing-ev-adoption-reshaping-oil-100021640.html

https://www.energymonitor.ai/tech/networks-grids/how-oil-majors-penetrated-the-ev-charging-market/

https://www.batterytechonline.com/industry-outlook/oil-and-gas-corporations-investing-in-lithium-ion-batteries

Not particular unique for oil companies to pivot. The good ones will. Take Kodak and Fujifilm. Kodak bet poorly, stayed too long in the photographic film business. Fujifilm; took their core chemistry knowhow, got into advanced materials. Took their imaging knowhow; big in healthcare now. Nokia; it was a paper mill before it became a phone company. Now the phone business has all but gone.

My old employer, Smiths. Mr Smith was a watchmaker, who figured when those first planes appeared that the pilots might want a clock, to know when they ran out of fuel, then the clock became a instrument. And before you knew it, instruments in cars were either Smiths or Jaeger. But Smiths hasn't sold a single car instrument since about 1984, and the company moved into medicals, defence, oil rigs, big engineering, security etc. BAT and Philips Morris will be around long after people have given up ciggies (smoking is still increasing in developing economies), ditto the oil companies; its not all about clamping down on innovation.

I doubt EVs will be around for as long as ICE, but then CDs weren't around as long records. So thats not a comment that EVs are worse that ICE cars, but a reflection about how we use transport. The petrol car was around for 150 years, but domesticated horses, 10,000 years. A horse could take you a long way, as long as you could feed from a field along the way. A petrol car could take you a long way as long as you could find a petrol station. An EV will take quite a long way as long as you can find a 3-pin plug.

I am predicting ICE's will be around for at least another 50 years, because there is not enough lithium, nickel, and other elements around needed by EV's to completely replace them. The owner of a trucking fleet requires 13 EV trucks to replace 12 ICE's, it's a battery weight problem.

As far as what comes after personal EV's goes, either high speed rail for the masses, or drones with AI flying them for the wealthy?

Just now, Lacessit said:

What's incredible is the lack of critical thinking of Trump supporters.

His decision to invade Iran without consulting anyone except Israel, or considering potential retaliation, has created a godawful mess which will take years to clean up.

Yet still his devotees think he's great. Just how uneducated and stupid does one have to be to think that way?

Talk about changing the subject!!!🤣

So can we agree mocking people for their skin color is wrong? Even if you are fizzing with hatred for them and have no idea why?

Just now, SunnyinBangrak said:

Talk about changing the subject!!!🤣

So can we agree mocking people for their skin color is wrong? Even if you are fizzing with hatred for them and have no idea why?

We can agree you are wasting your time and mine attempting to gaslight me.

Please find a post of mine where I have made any comment about Trump's skin color. Hurry up, I haven't got all year.

Edited May 6May 6 by Lacessit

On 5/5/2026 at 6:11 AM, Lacessit said:

And Trump kissed the @rse of Kim and Putin, both terrorists. Is that all you have?

How do you know? Were you there?

Just now, Rockyroad said:

How do you know? Were you there?

The TV cameras and Truth Social posts were there.

Let me know when your education rises to the concept of figurative speech.

Just now, Lacessit said:

The TV cameras and Truth Social posts were there.

Let me know when your education rises to the concept of figurative speech.

The AUD is up 11% vs THB this year. Stop complaining all the time.

Just now, Lacessit said:

I am predicting ICE's will be around for at least another 50 years, because there is not enough lithium, nickel, and other elements around needed by EV's to completely replace them. The owner of a trucking fleet requires 13 EV trucks to replace 12 ICE's, it's a battery weight problem.

As far as what comes after personal EV's goes, either high speed rail for the masses, or drones with AI flying them for the wealthy?

And of course batteries could not, in the next 20 years, be made lighter than they are now.

Just like batteries could never be made lighter than they were when they were all made of lead plates and litres of acid....materials which could never be superseded.

There could not possibly be any research, discovery, innovation and development that would allow that.

It all ends here.

Not sure what the rules are about posting facepalms and can't be bothered to find out......but that's all you really deserve.

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

And all you can do is cut and paste. You were going to provide evidence of Trump being a racist, and all you could come up with was a bad taste Obama monkey meme.

Liar. I provided a list of racist actions the Trump administration has done. You conveniently forgot about poisoning the blood, and eating the pets.

The buck still stops with Trump. He's a racist and bigot. You're a fool.

Edited May 6May 6 by Lacessit

5 minutes ago, Enoon said:

And of course batteries could not, in the next 20 years, be made lighter than they are now.

Just like batteries could never be made lighter than they were when they were all made of lead plates and litres of acid....materials which could never be superseded.

There could not possibly be any research, discovery, innovation and development that would allow that.

It all ends here.

Not sure what the rules are about posting facepalms and can't be bothered to find out......but that's all you really deserve.

When did I say the technology could not be improved?

I am aware there are gold-based batteries in development which multiply cycles by one or two orders of magnitude.

Go facepalm yourself, or perhaps a verb with the same starting consonant would be more fitting.

20 minutes ago, Enoon said:

And of course batteries could not, in the next 20 years, be made lighter than they are now.

Just like batteries could never be made lighter than they were when they were all made of lead plates and litres of acid....materials which could never be superseded.

There could not possibly be any research, discovery, innovation and development that would allow that.

It all ends here.

Not sure what the rules are about posting facepalms and can't be bothered to find out......but that's all you really deserve.

When did I say the technology could not be improved?

Go facepalm yourself, although another verb with the same starting consonant would be more appropriate.

20 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

TV performers wear makeup primarily to counteract the effects of intense studio lighting and high-definition cameras, which can wash out features, highlight skin imperfections, and cause skin to look overly shiny. Professional makeup ensures a consistent, polished appearance across different scenes, reduces facial reflections, and defines facial features.

Seeing as he's a ginger he wears a suitable color makeup. Would you rather he blackfaced like woke king Trudeau?

No I would rather that he just man up, behave in more of a warrior spirit, and show us his true self. Granted that I know that would probably be a very scary thing to see but it would be refreshing, and far less feminine and soft.

On 5/6/2026 at 5:51 AM, Roadsternut said:

If this is a serious question (I doubt it is given what goes on between your ears, but I'll entertain you, you muppet):

1. Yes, because such research can also develop into research for the good of mankind. Ask Werner Von Braun. Where would America be without a German Army scientist. No microwaves and no Tang.

2. Yes, on the same basis that I wouldn't ban the Iranian army from possessing rifles.

3. You question is inprecise. If you mean Iran must be banned from possessing nuclear power stations, irradiating medical supplies or treating patients, then I would suggest you are an utterly evil barsteward with no redeeming features except that you mum must of loved your for at least a day. But if you mean nuclear weapons, no, with a caveat, that research on nuclear weapons must be banned universally; we have gotten to the same stage chemical weapons reached in the 1920s, when they stopped being considered critical to a nation's defence. The invention of very low yield nuclear weapons has made it now incredibly likely that a baby boomer some place will attack a country with nuclear weapons because they reckon they can win. I hope to god that all these baby boomers shuffle off this planet poste haste,, they've already robbed us blind and done enough damage, without leaving us that toxic legacy.

4. Terrorism; maybe the US can set an example here. You lot funded the IRA. I have never seen US compensation paid to the victims of Irish terrorism. Own up and Pay up. You supplied the Armalites, the Barratts, the bullets. The US can also stop funding proxies. Israel has its own nuclear weapons. It no longer need free US weapons.

Now you do the same, and no Yes/No answers. Justify every point.

Is it your position that the United States should be allowed to continue developing their intercontinental ballistic missiles, military drones, and nuclear programmes?

Yes

On 5/6/2026 at 5:51 AM, Roadsternut said:

Should the United States be allowed to fund terrorist proxies?

yes

15 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

yes

So that's clear. There are circumstances where you would support terrorism.

3 hours ago, Roadsternut said:

So that's clear. There are circumstances where you would support terrorism.

The hypnotism has been so effective, the Kool-Aid has been so powerful, and your blindness is so overwhelming that it's is simply not worth it to try create any argument with you about the importance of nuance in any sort of conversation like this. You would be incapable of understanding our arguments.

On 5/4/2026 at 6:33 PM, davb said:

President Trump is doing the right thing with Iran, something previous presidents have avoided for almost 50 years,

After a CIA funded coup in 1953 Iran obviously concluded that the us was their enemy and started making long term plans. Add to that the Israeli elephant in the room.

It's no wonder we are where we are today.

3 hours ago, Roadsternut said:

So that's clear. There are circumstances where you would support terrorism.

I think you meant to say: There are circumstances where you we would support terrorism. You already stated your support, yes?

Posts with derogatory nicknames, intentional misspellings, or personal remarks will be removed. Spell names correctly for all sides of the debate.

6 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

The hypnotism has been so effective, the Kool-Aid has been so powerful, and your blindness is so overwhelming that it's is simply not worth it to try create any argument with you about the importance of nuance in any sort of conversation like this. You would be incapable of understanding our arguments.

I'm not sure what your point is. Yellowtail mounted a few "when did you last beat your wife" strawman questions, I kind of responded in kind to his <deleted> ridiculous and infantile line with the same. To the question:

Should the United States be allowed to fund terrorist proxies?

Which was carefully worded, he responded in the affirmative. What, you support that position; that essentially legislation should not be put in place to stop a US Government from funding terrorism?

"Terrorism" is a rather nuanced term at times, with the maxim that's generally attributed to a Darrell Trent who worked in the White House (though it might have older, post-1903 origins) of "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter". In US foreign policy, Nicaraguan Contras were framed as Freedom Fighters, but there is irrefutable evidence they carried out terrorist acts (raids on villages, attacks on infrastructure, assasinations of civilians). And the same is true with other groups receiving American largesse.

I'm not framing Iran's support of proxies in such terms, but in post war politics, at best, in the Middle East, both "sides" have blood on their hands, and the groups and governments that the US has historically backed in the region nearly always don't share the same values of the American people. To an extent, they are reaping what they have sown. In Post War Politics, when it came to the Lebanese Civil War, it wasn't enough for the US to back the Lebanese government. They also backed the loons in the Falangist movement. In the Iran Iraq war, it wasn't enough for the US to take a strictly neutral stance, but they had to funnel weapons and materiel to Saddam Hussein; remember the USS Stark, 37 Americans killed by an Iraqi Exocet, Iraqi apology and that was that. The Iranians knew the Americans were funneling weapons to the Iraqi Kurds in the 1970s, with the help of the Shah, but the Americans instantly cut off the flow to the Kurds in 1975. What happened then, the Kurds used their American weapons against Iranian civilians. Little wonder, the Revolutionaries took a lesson from the Americans (many of the American trained SAVAK switched sides) and the funding of Freedom Fighter/Terrorist proxies. The rest is history.

6 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

After a CIA funded coup in 1953 Iran obviously concluded that the us was their enemy and started making long term plans. Add to that the Israeli elephant in the room.

It's no wonder we are where we are today.

Its a bit more than that. The 1953 coup occurred before many of those Revolutionaries were born, but it was a useful historic uniting event. The main cause was the outrageous behaviour of the Shah. The Shah wasn't the head of some long established Royal dynasty that had ruled Iran benevolantly for generations. His dad, Reza Shah, invented the dynasty after overthrowing another Royal dynasty, and essentially being elected as Shah. Dad backed the Nazis in WW2, and had to abdicate. The next Shah really showed his true colurs by declaring himself "King of Kings", a slightly ridiculous term given his family background.

In 1963, the Shah had his White Revolution, to modernise Iran. That involved land reform, which is code for the government taking the land off you, that your family had owned for generations. Whether that was right or wrong, you were still going to piss off a lot of people , people who both had money, but also were ingrained as part of the traditional order.The traditional order extending to the Clergy. The Shah organised new farms which nearly all failed, resulting in an exodus of farm workers to the cities, to find work. On paper, the land reforms seemed very fair and enlightened, with terms such as profit sharing, workers shares, equity. But the effort to abolish feudalism didn't work, because of ramapant grifting by the Pahlavis. There were new farm owners who became very wealthy, but there were a lot of farm labourers who were very poor, and didn't receive any benefit. The Shah also promotoed industrialisation over agricultural reform, so these poor labourers left the farms to go work in some new sweat shop. By the late 70s, the econmy was in a mess, high inflation, high unemployment, and increasing taxes. The Shah managed to piss off the old land owners, Pissed off the poor who werent feeling the benefits. Pissed off the clergy; he had stripped them of their role in family law, but also because he was keen to promote Persian nationalism (basically promoting a sense of nationhood through myths and half made up truths, culminating in the ruritarian 2,500-year celebration of the Empire of Iran event), stripped them of their role in education. Add to that tinderbox that the Americans had just been unceremoniously kicked out of Vietnam, feeding a general anti-Western, anti-Imperialist sentiment. That Shah didn't help himself by seemingly spending all the national wealth on himself, his kids, and a military that was frequently used to quell dissent. And a thuggish secret police, SAVAK.

Strange interview. He was oblivious to looming events.

It turns out Trump's ego hasn't been sufficiently stroked recently, so he and/or the lickspittles he surrounds himself with have come up with a remedy.

Trump is now using taxpayer dollars to cover DC with posters of Trump thanking himself!🤣

The US seems intent on giving Larson's "Far Side" comic strip a run for his money. MAGA must be so proud.

'Trump demands gratitude in D.C. So he put up banners thanking himself.'

"New banners that have appeared around Washington show President Donald Trump in a hard hat with construction scaffolding creating a horizon line beneath him. The scaffolding is crimson red, the hard hat is white, and emblazoned on the blue sky behind him are the words, “Thank you, President Trump.”

The signs were posted on fencing around construction sites where the National Park Service is renovating and refreshing parks and public spaces, part of the president’s initiative to spruce up Washington as the nation celebrates its 250th anniversary. A spokesperson for the Interior Department didn’t respond to questions about how many banners have been hung, whether they are appearing outside of Washington, or how much the new advertising campaign is costing the department."

47 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

It turns out Trump's ego hasn't been sufficiently stroked recently, so he and/or the lickspittles he surrounds himself with have come up with a remedy.

Trump is now using taxpayer dollars to cover DC with posters of Trump thanking himself!🤣

The US seems intent on giving Larson's "Far Side" comic strip a run for his money. MAGA must be so proud.

'Trump demands gratitude in D.C. So he put up banners thanking himself.'

"New banners that have appeared around Washington show President Donald Trump in a hard hat with construction scaffolding creating a horizon line beneath him. The scaffolding is crimson red, the hard hat is white, and emblazoned on the blue sky behind him are the words, “Thank you, President Trump.”

The signs were posted on fencing around construction sites where the National Park Service is renovating and refreshing parks and public spaces, part of the president’s initiative to spruce up Washington as the nation celebrates its 250th anniversary. A spokesperson for the Interior Department didn’t respond to questions about how many banners have been hung, whether they are appearing outside of Washington, or how much the new advertising campaign is costing the department."

Trump's continual self-aggrandizement has become a national disgrace.

Edited May 10May 10 by Hawaiian

56 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

It turns out Trump's ego hasn't been sufficiently stroked recently, so he and/or the lickspittles he surrounds himself with have come up with a remedy.

Trump is now using taxpayer dollars to cover DC with posters of Trump thanking himself!🤣

The US seems intent on giving Larson's "Far Side" comic strip a run for his money. MAGA must be so proud.

'Trump demands gratitude in D.C. So he put up banners thanking himself.'

"New banners that have appeared around Washington show President Donald Trump in a hard hat with construction scaffolding creating a horizon line beneath him. The scaffolding is crimson red, the hard hat is white, and emblazoned on the blue sky behind him are the words, “Thank you, President Trump.”

The signs were posted on fencing around construction sites where the National Park Service is renovating and refreshing parks and public spaces, part of the president’s initiative to spruce up Washington as the nation celebrates its 250th anniversary. A spokesperson for the Interior Department didn’t respond to questions about how many banners have been hung, whether they are appearing outside of Washington, or how much the new advertising campaign is costing the department."

This circus clown truly does not deserve his likeness on the side of a plastic outhouse. Only a man lacking substance feels the need to aggrandize themselves and thump their chest at every opportunity. That is a sign of low self-esteem and a likely a huge level of self-loathing, despite all the braggadacio. Trump is a hot mess. And he's in a fairly dramatic state of decline, he seems like 79 going on 92 when it comes to his coherence.

He doesn't think about you, Americans. Not even a little bit.