With his dramatically declining poll numbers, and his never ending war of choice, resulting in high inflation, (the opposite of just one of many campaign promises broken already) many are finding it hard to continue supporting Don. If the dems win the midterms, I doubt the White House janitor will return his calls.

Tucker Carlson was one who supported and defended Trump for a decade. He has now broken with him over this silly, and unnecessary war. Will more join the fray?

From a recent interview-

What I’m fascinated by is the lack of curiosity on display into how exactly this happened. What are the mechanisms by which a guy who’s supposedly sovereign, in charge, granted this authority by voters, tens of millions of them, can’t make a decision in the country’s interest or even in his own interest? He knew, and I know he knew because I talked to him about it directly, the potential consequences were profound and profoundly bad — the end of his presidency, to start, which I think it has proven to be. He knew that. This is my read and I could be completely wrong — I don’t know what’s in his head and I don’t want to overstate my knowledge at all. But this is my strong perception on the basis of many conversations on this topic.

He felt he had no choice and he said to me, Everything’s going to be OK. Because I was getting overwrought. Don’t do this. The people pushing you to do this hate you. They’re your enemies. This will destroy you. This will gravely harm our country. We’ve got kids. I’m hoping for grandkids. Let’s not go there. And he said, It’s going to be all right, and he said, Do you know how I know that? And I said no, and he said, Because it always is. There’s a kind of Teddy Rooseveltian optimism there, but that’s not really what it was. This is my read. That was more a justification from a man who feels he has no choice. That is my strong view. And not just my strong view, the view of others who are around him and involved in this deliberation to the extent it was a deliberation, which is not much.

First of all, it’s a display of male power: Send the bombs in to kill the bad people. But moreover you get to feel like I did something, and that’s important and I get it. And this is, as you wisely note, a process that all presidents tend to go through. And so Venezuela, Cuba, I object to both of those efforts very strongly, but neither one, in my view, risks the future of the United States in the way that the Iran war now does. So it’s a big deal. But because it is, by the way, a contiguous neighbor of Iraq, and because Trump spent years talking about what a terrible idea the Iraq invasion was — defined his candidacy in 2016 on that point — it’s hard for me to believe that he just organically reached this place at the end of February, like, Oh, I think it’s a good idea. He did not think it was a good idea. Shutting down a fifth of the world’s oil and gas? Of all people, Trump knows that’s bad.

But the point I’m making is Trump could not restrain Netanyahu. Netanyahu is the one person to whom Trump couldn’t say, “Hey, settle down or we’ll just defund you and your country will collapse in about 10 minutes,” which is true. Israel can’t defend itself without the United States, despite whatever propaganda you may have heard.

So again, it’s not an attack on Israel. It’s an attack on American leadership for not constraining its partner in a way that helps the United States. Trump said, I want a negotiated settlement. Israel stopped the settlement. Trump refused to even criticize Netanyahu in public. Are you joking? That’s slavery. That is total control of one man by another. And that’s between Trump and Bibi and God, as far as I’m concerned. But as an American, that is our elected president, whose job is to protect our country and our interest and our economy. And he is looking out for Israel first. That’s outrageous. And no amount of “Oh, you’re an antisemite” — which I’m not, and I’m never going to be — is going to stop me from noting that that’s outrageous. It is outrageous.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/02/magazine/tucker-carlson-interview-trump-iran.html?smid=nytcore-android-share

President Trump is doing the right thing with Iran, something previous presidents have avoided for almost 50 years, and he is doing it despite knowing that it would hurt his poll numbers.

To quote JFK:

"Always do what is right, regardless of whether it is popular."

Face facts.......trump is making a complete mess of his war on Iran because he is and was incapable of thinking through the possible ramifications of his "no plan, no strategy" actions. What can you expect from a multi bankrupt, grifting man who stole from a Charity and sold Hats made in China, gold coloured sneakers and trump phones (which have not been delivered yet) to his gullible supporters!

Just now, xylophone said:

Face facts.......trump is making a complete mess of his war on Iran because he is and was incapable of thinking through the possible ramifications of his "no plan, no strategy" actions. What can you expect from a multi bankrupt, grifting man who stole from a Charity and sold Hats made in China, gold coloured sneakers and trump phones (which have not been delivered yet) to his gullible supporters!

Iranian propaganda working wonders on western liberals. Is it their irrational hatred of 45/47 that makes them particularly susceptible to the propaganda?

Just now, davb said:

President Trump is doing the right thing with Iran, something previous presidents have avoided for almost 50 years, and he is doing it despite knowing that it would hurt his poll numbers.

To quote JFK:

"Always do what is right, regardless of whether it is popular."

I disagree. Trump believed the U.S. And Israel would succeed in neutering Iran and that would boost his approval rating. However, that didn't quite work out and now the polls are responding to his dismal failure.

Just now, SunnyinBangrak said:

Iranian propaganda working wonders on western liberals. Is it their irrational hatred of 45/47 that makes them particularly susceptible to the propaganda?

sorry man, but it sounds more like ""Trumpism.Magaism propaganda working on brainless americans""

Just now, davb said:

President Trump is doing the right thing with Iran, something previous presidents have avoided for almost 50 years, and he is doing it despite knowing that it would hurt his poll numbers.

To quote JFK:

"Always do what is right, regardless of whether it is popular."

So its ok to start a war for no reason and kill innocent men women and children and drive the economy to the ground there are no winners in a war !! there are a lot of nutjobs on this forum who are way out of touch with reality and you are one of them if you think killing is the right thing to do !!

You have taken jfk quote way out of context, the context in the book is more nuanced than a simple statement of advice. In the text, he presents it as an "easy answer" that is often difficult for elected officials to uphold due to the pressures of their constituents, party, and state,

the quote was attributed to American author and editor Charles C. Johnson.

Edited May 4May 4 by MikeandDow

Just now, MikeandDow said:

So its ok to start a war for no reason

You have taken jfk quote way out of context, the context in the book is more nuanced than a simple statement of advice. In the text, he presents it as an "easy answer" that is often difficult for elected officials to uphold due to the pressures of their constituents, party, and state,

Iran is a global sponsor of terrorism, spreading their evil ideology throughout the Middle East. They are crazed, and having nuclear weapons or even "nuclear dust" is not acceptable. Trump likes nice things and knows we can't have a decent world if they are in it.

The Iranian people will be better off when this is over.

Obama, a coward, did the "easy answer". He paid more than billion dollars to the mullahs so that a future president would have to deal with them. Trump knows the danger of war, and knows he would be hurt in the polls, but did it anyway. That's courage.

Just now, davb said:

President Trump is doing the right thing with Iran, something previous presidents have avoided for almost 50 years, and he is doing it despite knowing that it would hurt his poll numbers.

Please define "doing the right thing with Iran".

What are the goals?

Are they achievable?

How?

How many American casualties?

How long will it take?

Once goals are achieved how will they be maintained?

What will be the economic cost?

What will the effect be on the US economy and the world economy?

How badly will America's Gulf allies be hit?

How badly will America's interest in the Middle East be damaged?

What will happen to the military presence in other key areas, Korea, Taiwan, The Red Sea....?

None of these questions have been answered and none of these issues have been explained and there is strong evidence that none of these issues were even thought through. Allies were not consulted and Congress was completely ignored. That is absolutely staggering.

Just now, Briggsy said:

Please define "doing the right thing with Iran".

What are the goals?

Are they achievable?

How?

How many American casualties?

How long will it take?

Once goals are achieved how will they be maintained?

What will be the economic cost?

What will the effect be on the US economy and the world economy?

How badly will America's Gulf allies be hit?

How badly will America's interest in the Middle East be damaged?

What will happen to the military presence in other key areas, Korea, Taiwan, The Red Sea....?

None of these questions have been answered and none of these issues have been explained and there is strong evidence that none of these issues were even thought through. Allies were not consulted and Congress was completely ignored. That is absolutely staggering.

Goals are to remove all nuclear potential, replace the crazies, make Iran stop destabilizing other countries, and no more terrorism.

Achieved by wiping out the current crop of leaders and their infrastructure, weaponry and money.

Don't know exactly how long it will take, or casualty numbers, but that's an impossible question.

Maintain it by putting a strong-man in charge. Someone like the Shah, Muslim-in-name-only.

Breaking up OPEC, and removing the Iranian blight on the world, will improve the world economy, lifting even more people out of poverty. Trump has clearly planned this all out, including the takeover of Venezuela and, despite his misgivings, keeping Ukraine going so they keep Putin busy.

Just now, davb said:

Iran is a global sponsor of terrorism, spreading their evil ideology throughout the Middle East. They are crazed, and having nuclear weapons or even "nuclear dust" is not acceptable. Trump likes nice things and knows we can't have a decent world if they are in it.

The Iranian people will be better off when this is over.

Obama, a coward, did the "easy answer". He paid more than billion dollars to the mullahs so that a future president would have to deal with them. Trump knows the danger of war, and knows he would be hurt in the polls, but did it anyway. That's courage.

So what is the diffrence between Iran and NK NK have nukes you dont see trump attacking NK so its ok to kill children you are just a simpe minded person !!

Just now, MikeandDow said:

So what is the diffrence between Iran and NK NK have nukes you dont see trump attacking NK so its ok to kill children you are just a simpe minded person !!

NK does not have terrorist proxies and have not killing Americans and attacking American interests for the last forty years.

Trump's mistake with Iran, is that he never dreamed the left, the American left in particular, would be siding with Hamas and Iran against Israel and the United States.

I can see one way this could develop.

Trump orders the US Navy to escort ships through the Strait of Hormuz.

He then demands other countries pay for the cost of the mess he created.

I can hear a chorus of "F### off " building already.

The four goals set out by the White House at the start of the war have largely been realized.

To say otherwise is to lie.

To say Iran is "winning" is insanity.

Hey, maybe the war was all staged to drive up oil prices for Trump's puppet master Putin?

Just now, davb said:

Goals are to remove all nuclear potential, replace the crazies, make Iran stop destabilizing other countries, and no more terrorism.

Achieved by wiping out the current crop of leaders and their infrastructure, weaponry and money.

Don't know exactly how long it will take, or casualty numbers, but that's an impossible question.

Maintain it by putting a strong-man in charge. Someone like the Shah, Muslim-in-name-only.

Breaking up OPEC, and removing the Iranian blight on the world, will improve the world economy, lifting even more people out of poverty. Trump has clearly planned this all out, including the takeover of Venezuela and, despite his misgivings, keeping Ukraine going so they keep Putin busy.

Absolutely staggering that there are people out there who think like this, and that someone who believes this, is either joking, or "a sandwich short of a picnic".

Just now, xylophone said:

Absolutely staggering that there are people out there who think like this, and that someone who believes this, is either joking, or "a sandwich short of a picnic".

agree with you simple minded poster !!!

Just now, MikeandDow said:

Just now, Yellowtail said:

North Korea (the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, or DPRK) has a historical and ongoing record of utilizing proxies, engaging in state-sponsored terrorism, and providing training or arms to various armed groups, particularly to further its objectives against South Korea and the United States

You're right, those are all great reasons to allow Iran to continue developing their intercontinental ballistic missile, military drone, and nuclear weapons programs.

Just now, MikeandDow said:

agree with you simple minded poster !!!

Why are you calling him simple-minded?

Just now, davb said:

Goals are to remove all nuclear potential, replace the crazies, make Iran stop destabilizing other countries, and no more terrorism.

Achieved by wiping out the current crop of leaders and their infrastructure, weaponry and money.

Don't know exactly how long it will take, or casualty numbers, but that's an impossible question.

Maintain it by putting a strong-man in charge. Someone like the Shah, Muslim-in-name-only.

Breaking up OPEC, and removing the Iranian blight on the world, will improve the world economy, lifting even more people out of poverty. Trump has clearly planned this all out, including the takeover of Venezuela and, despite his misgivings, keeping Ukraine going so they keep Putin busy.

Where has TRUMP published those explicit "goals"?

Please provide a single link that quotes him stating them at one time!

Edited May 4May 4 by scottiejohn

Just now, scottiejohn said:

Where has TRUMP published those explicit "goals"?

Please provide a single link that quotes him stating them at one time!

You can read the goals on the official White House "Rapid Response" X account here: https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/2039408073039630728

Here are the excerpts:

As far as him saying he wants to eliminate the maniacs in charge, well, sometimes things don't need to be said:

Just now, davb said:

Goals are to remove all nuclear potential, replace the crazies, make Iran stop destabilizing other countries, and no more terrorism.

Achieved by wiping out the current crop of leaders and their infrastructure, weaponry and money.

Don't know exactly how long it will take, or casualty numbers, but that's an impossible question.

Maintain it by putting a strong-man in charge. Someone like the Shah, Muslim-in-name-only.

Breaking up OPEC, and removing the Iranian blight on the world, will improve the world economy, lifting even more people out of poverty. Trump has clearly planned this all out, including the takeover of Venezuela and, despite his misgivings, keeping Ukraine going so they keep Putin busy.

It's a nice wish list.

Reality - the eliminated leadership has been replaced by even more extreme people.

The Strait of Hormuz is closed indefinitely.

Each side has zero trust in the other.

Iran has about 50% of its arsenal left, and can resupply via the Caspian Sea.

America has to print even more money to replenish the armaments expended.

Apart from those minor details, everything is hunky-dory.

Just now, davb said:

You can read the goals on the official White House "Rapid Response" X account here:

Your original post does not quite correspond with your reply to my question!

Your post said;

Goals are to remove all nuclear potential, (Yes it is in the link)

replace the crazies, (not in your link)

make Iran stop destabilizing other countries (not in your link)

no more terrorism. (Yes it is in the link)

Your link dated 2 April regarding a war that started on 28 Feb says;

From day one, the objectives have been clear:

obliterate Iran’s missiles and production, (not in your post)

annihilate its navy, (not in your post)

sever its support for terrorist proxies, (Yes it is in your post)

ensure it never acquires a nuclear weapon. (Yes it is in your post)

I am still waiting for any source of a clear statement by Trump on or about 28 Feb that states the actual "War Aims"!

Edited May 4May 4 by scottiejohn

What's happening now in Iran ? ,seems like Trump 🤡 has gotten bored

with the war he started ,and has no idea how to end it.

He seems more interested in reflecting pools ,the Golden Ballroom,

Trumphian Arches , having his likeness in passports , having his head

carved on Mount Rushmore ,important things more important than any war.

regards worgeordie

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Just now, worgeordie said:

What's happening now in Iran ? ,seems like Trump 🤡 has gotten bored

with the war he started ,and has no idea how to end it.

He seems more interested in reflecting pools ,the Golden Ballroom,

Trumphian Arches , having his likeness in passports , having his head

carved on Mount Rushmore ,important things more important than any war.

regards worgeordie

The man is a demented moron with the attention span of a gnat. If it ain't shiny and golden it's not gonna hold his attention.

Simple as that.

Just now, scottiejohn said:

replace the crazies, (not in your link)

obliterate Iran’s missiles and production, (not in your post)

annihilate its navy, (not in your post)

Their upper leadership is all dead now, due to US missiles, and their military capability is at about 15 percent of what it was. I don't know if he said it with words, but his actions communicated what he wanted to do, and actually did do, and that's what counts.

Just now, Lacessit said:

It's a nice wish list.

Reality - the eliminated leadership has been replaced by even more extreme people.

The Strait of Hormuz is closed indefinitely.

Each side has zero trust in the other.

Iran has about 50% of its arsenal left, and can resupply via the Caspian Sea.

America has to print even more money to replenish the armaments expended.

Apart from those minor details, everything is hunky-dory.

What is the 50$ claim based on?

Why is the strait closed? I thought Iran controlled it, no?

Just now, davb said:

Iran is a global sponsor of terrorism, spreading their evil ideology throughout the Middle East. They are crazed, and having nuclear weapons or even "nuclear dust" is not acceptable. Trump likes nice things and knows we can't have a decent world if they are in it.

The Iranian people will be better off when this is over.

Obama, a coward, did the "easy answer". He paid more than billion dollars to the mullahs so that a future president would have to deal with them. Trump knows the danger of war, and knows he would be hurt in the polls, but did it anyway. That's courage.

As unfortunate as is the oppression witnessed in Iran, as it also is in Afghanistan as a result of foreign interference for reason other than "salvation" of the general population Trump has simply been dragged into an historical retaliatory attempt to re=establish a CIA backed illegitimate regime that was displaced in 1979. Again backed by the US who supplied chemical weapons in the attempt Iraq went to war with Iran and lost. Having witnessed the US then blowing the living snot out of Iraq when their also installed Saddam got out of hand (twice) is any surprise the Iranian regime reacted with radical opposition and non co-operation after decades long ongoing sanctions and trade denial ?

Despite portrayal of being a fascist regime denying women's rights the truth is that is mostly confined to the mandate of the hijab. Otherwise women are welcome participants in education and employment even in the Government arena. Compared to the Saudi dictate ?

There is no denying that Iran supports militant opposition forces in other Middle Eastern locations. Accusations of proxy alignment ignores the fact that Iranians are Shia Muslim whereas Syrian, Lebanese, Yeman are Sunni Muslim supporting the fact that Iranian Persians support oppressed Sunni Arabs as partners of oppression which includes Palestinian Arabs.

In an attempt to reconcile Persian Iran grievances Obama returned frozen legitimate currency to Iran from oil revenues.

Trump's regime rhetoric that Obama "gave" Iran money is bs.

No different in real terms than the money Israel withholds from Gaza actually originates from the offshore oil reserves pirated from them!

Name a country that Iran has initiated aggression towards if you can ?

Nominating so called "proxies" not a genuine consideration !

Just now, Briggsy said:

What are the goals?

Are they achievable?

How?

How many American casualties?

How long will it take?

Once goals are achieved how will they be maintained?

What will be the economic cost?

What will the effect be on the US economy and the world economy?

How badly will America's Gulf allies be hit?

How badly will America's interest in the Middle East be damaged?

What will happen to the military presence in other key areas, Korea, Taiwan, The Red Sea....?

Here let me help you.

No nuclear program for Iran, ever.

Easily

Keep watching and drop a bomb here and there. They cant stop it

13?

Very soon

Eyes in the skies and bombs, hopefully a new regime.

Far less that Iran dropping a nuke

Far less than Iran dropping a nuke

All the damage is done.

Our main ally runs the show there.

Stay in Korea/ We have no presence of note in Taiwan. WE control the Red Sea.

See how easy it is when you leave the spittlefrothing demented Trump-Jew-America hate world.

US out of NATO

Just now, Yellowtail said:

What is the 50$ claim based on?

Why is the strait closed? I thought Iran controlled it, no?

Coming to a head today, we will start escorting ships and Iran is going to attack and stop it with their supersecret weapon called The Fart of Allah.

What is your new Muslim name going to be when they kick Trump out of the Oval Office?