Just now, davb said:

Their upper leadership is all dead now, due to US missiles, and their military capability is at about 15 percent of what it was. I don't know if he said it with words, but his actions communicated what he wanted to do, and actually did do, and that's what counts.

You have a credible link to support your claim of a 15% capability?

Just now, Lacessit said:

You have a credible link to support your claim of a 15% capability?

Still waiting for you to support you 50% claim.

Just now, Yellowtail said:

The four goals set out by the White House at the start of the war have largely been realized.

To say otherwise is to lie.

To say Iran is "winning" is insanity.

Hey, maybe the war was all staged to drive up oil prices for Trump's puppet master Putin?

Around the world, Gasoline prices are up by 40%. Diesel 50%, jet fuel 73%.

No-one is winning. Everybody is losing, including America.

Just now, Yellowtail said:

And Obama lifted sanctions and allowed Iran to continue developing the intercontinental ballistic missile and nuclear programs, and "gave" them an RQ-170 in 2011 to help jump-start their military drone program.

And Trump kissed the @rse of Kim and Putin, both terrorists. Is that all you have?

Just now, Lacessit said:

Around the world, Gasoline prices are up by 40%. Diesel 50%, jet fuel 73%.

No-one is winning. Everybody is losing, including America.

The oil companies making money hand over fist will tend to disagree.

Just now, blaze master said:

The oil companies making money hand over fist will tend to disagree.

True. Would you say the average American is better off, with the average price of gasoline at $4.46 a gallon?

The oil companies stimulate demand for EV's when they get too greedy.

Just now, Lacessit said:

. Would you say the average American is better off, with the average price of gasoline at $4.46 a gallon?

Rich people dont give a toss.

Just now, Lacessit said:

And Trump kissed the @rse of Kim and Putin, both terrorists. Is that all you have?

How did Trump kiss their a$$s? He said nice things about them?

Did Trump cancel a missile defense program for Putin? Nope, that was Obama.

Did Trump refuse to provide weapons to Ukraine? Nope, that was Obama too.

Did Trump freeze the weapons shipments to Ukraine that Trump initiated in his first term? Nope, that was Biden.

Trump said nice things about Putin and Kim, Obama and Biden sold out Israel and Ukraine.

Oh no, as always, the left jumps in to lie about what I said, because anytime they are truthful. their position falls apart.

They lie, and when you call them out for lying, they lie about what you say. They are first and always, liars.

Oh, the pearl clutching irony, it is to laugh!

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The CIA and the military begged Obama to bomb the drone, but nope, the feckless POC Obama let them have it.

Just now, Lacessit said:

True. Would you say the average American is better off, with the average price of gasoline at $4.46 a gallon?

Yes. No open border, markets up, business booming, DEI on the run, racism being fought, Venezuela reopened, freedom of speech being defended and no nukes for our sworn enemy. Ill take a short term gas spike

Just now, Yagoda said:

Yes. No open border, markets up, business booming, DEI on the run, racism being fought, Venezuela reopened, freedom of speech being defended and no nukes for our sworn enemy. Ill take a short term gas spike

All the sudden the left cares about oil prices.

Remember Steven Chu, Obama's Secretary of Energy? He said he wanted to get gas to $8 a gallon to match European prices, because that was the only wat to save the planet.

Oh, the pearl-clutching irony, it is to laugh!

Just now, Yagoda said:

Yes. No open border, markets up, business booming, DEI on the run, racism being fought, Venezuela reopened, freedom of speech being defended and no nukes for our sworn enemy. Ill take a short term gas spike

Racism being fought, are you serious or deluded? Trump is one of the most racist Presidents ever, perhaps your selective memory has forgotten him depicting the Obamas as apes.

Freedom of speech, when Trump declares war on the media, and abuses reporters for asking questions about his multiple links to Epstein.

Business is booming? Only in AI, the massaged job figures tell a different story.

How do you know the gas spike is short term? You have a crystal ball that tells you so?

FFS, lay off whatever it is you are abusing - booze, pot, LSD, meth. It's killing what few brain cells you have left

Just now, blaze master said:

Rich people dont give a toss.

Obviously you don't either. I'm alright Jack.

Just now, Lacessit said:

Obviously you don't either. I'm alright Jack.

Of course you're alright. You only pretend to be outraged all the time. Go on living.

Just now, Lacessit said:

FFS, lay off whatever it is you are abusing - booze, pot, LSD, meth. It's killing what few brain cells you have left

I love the hysteria and name calling when the racist, censorious, Socialist America haters get called out.

Just now, Lacessit said:

Business is booming? Only in AI, the massaged job figures tell a different story.

How do you know the gas spike is short term? You have a crystal ball that tells you so?

Oh yeah you live in Omaha, right? Or Springfield, MA? You know all about the US economy from your perch in a foreign country.

Just now, Lacessit said:

Freedom of speech, when Trump declares war on the media, and abuses reporters for asking questions about his multiple links to Epstein.

As opposed to actual governmental censorship and a hidden President. Got it, Trump iss censoring because in his almost daily new conferences he calls stupid reporters, stupid. Duh.

You live in a rather pathetic reality.

Just now, Yellowtail said:

ll the sudden the left cares about oil prices

High gas prices under Biden: That saves the planet

High gas prices under Trump: Thats a War on the People

One cannot have the policies of the Democratic Party without being a flaming hypocrite.

This ridiculous war of choice continues and Trump has been desperately seeking an off-ramp. He's starting to realize how badly mislead he was by Netanyahu, and that he never should have worn those knee pads and gotten down and kissed the man's butt. This is backfiring and this is going to end very badly for the goon.

From a good editorial in the NY Times. Alot of truth.

The American and Israeli bombing of Iran failed to provoke either a popular uprising against the regime in Tehran or its capitulation, however painfully slow Mr. Trump and his advisers have been to acknowledge that. Instead, Iran discovered its ability to shut down the vital passageway of the Strait of Hormuz and send the global economy into chaos.

The future security of the Persian Gulf now depends on the Trump administration cutting a deal with the regime in Tehran. Despite the president’s assertion that “We have all the cards,” almost the exact opposite is true. It is Mr. Trump, rather, who is increasingly motivated to cut a deal and stanch the growing pain to the U.S. economy — and his collapsing approval ratings — at home. As a result, Iran is likely to try to drag out negotiations and extract greater concessions from Mr. Trump in the process, knowing that time is on its side.

Those concessions might involve a lifting of the onerous “maximum pressure” sanctions that Mr. Trump imposed on Iran during his first term and restored early in his second, or reparations for the destruction that the American and Israeli bombing campaign has inflicted. While a chief point of contention will be the stores of enriched uranium that remain, any final settlement will almost certainly leave Iran as the de facto gatekeeper of the Persian Gulf — or, in other words, in a far stronger position than before Mr. Trump started this war.

When the American attack on Iran was launched in late February, the name chosen for the operation, Epic Fury, seemed an unusually apt description of the temperament of the man ordering it. In pondering where that military misadventure leaves both the United States and the future security of the world, a more fitting name might be Operation Colossal Blunder.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/04/opinion/iran-us-israel-war-drones-strait-of-hormuz.html?smid=nytcore-android-share

3 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

NK does not have terrorist proxies and have not killing Americans and attacking American interests for the last forty years.

Trump's mistake with Iran, is that he never dreamed the left, the American left in particular, would be siding with Hamas and Iran against Israel and the United States.

North Korea has been designated as a state sponsor of terrorism. It is an active supplier of weaponry to Hezbollah, and provided tunneling technology to the organisation. Generations of terrorists from Ireland, Japan, Spain, the Middle East. All of this activity has resulted in the deaths of thouands of Americans and their allies. In 2017, the US reaffirmed this status,

US military paper on how Russia, China and North Korea use proxies to attack America.

https://www.europeafrica.army.mil/Portals/19/documents/Eisenhower/2019/1st%20Heatherly.pdf?ver=-WF8YNZbrqtfpBoHFdHZ_Q%3D%3D

https://www.jstor.org/stable/26463130?seq=1

Your denial that North Korea has ever killed Americans is cold comfort to the family of Otto Warmbier. You must back the North Korean line, that he wa a spy, and they had nothing to do with his death.

The DPRK will of course deny this, and they have agents placed in the West to support them, or deflect from them. Theyn have sophisticated propaganda methodologies, given the relatively large number of UN POWs, mostly American, who were returned overtly pro-Communist.

That you willfully deny such obvious facts about North Korea make me think you are an agent for the Hermit State. You are often a staunch defender of Russia. Are you a Communist?

Just now, Yagoda said:

I love the hysteria and name calling when the racist, censorious, Socialist America haters get called out.

Oh yeah you live in Omaha, right? Or Springfield, MA? You know all about the US economy from your perch in a foreign country.

As opposed to actual governmental censorship and a hidden President. Got it, Trump iss censoring because in his almost daily new conferences he calls stupid reporters, stupid. Duh.

You live in a rather pathetic reality.w

Your Nazi moaning is amusing as well. You throw out the political insults, throw it back at you, Comrade.

Just now, Yellowtail said:

All the sudden the left cares about oil prices.

Remember Steven Chu, Obama's Secretary of Energy? He said he wanted to get gas to $8 a gallon to match European prices, because that was the only wat to save the planet.

Oh, the pearl-clutching irony, it is to laugh!

Disengenuous, ignorant. European consumers pay more for petrol and diesel because of taxation policy. Those taxes, like American tariffs, are then used to support public services, such as healthcare. You can argue that people should be pay for healthcare out of their own pocket, and deserve to die if they haven't earnt enough, thats a consistant position. You can argue that the military should be privately funded, instead of taxpayer supported. All these maximalist, anti-state anarchist positions.

Raising the price of oil does not "save the planet", you simplistic person. Raising the price of oil allows Arab sheikhs who <deleted> in holes to become more wealth and blow it all on hookers, blow and sports clubs. Raising taxation on the price of petrol at the pump (which is entirely different to the cost of energy for industry) can be used to manage demand, but it also ensures that money doesn't end up in the pockets of <deleted> stained thobes, and might go towards things like curing your cancer, fixing the roads, arming the military. Chu's proposal was to use taxation rates, just like taxation on ciggies and booze, to manipulate consumer behaviour. But you tried to claim Chu wanted to raise the price of oil. He never did.

You have defended the terrorist North Korean state, and are now defending the Sheikhs and Mullahs, trying to reframe rising crude oil prices as a policy intended to save the planet.

You are a 1 dimensonal person, Your <deleted>wittery thinks that rising oil prices only affects the car driver. It affects everything. You bitch and whine about European gas prices but has your grey matter, in between saying North Korea doesn't sponsor terrorism, ever wondered why European food prices are lower than the US, upto 50% lower in some places.

Deliberately misunderstood by those who want to pass the buck,

OBAMA DID NOT 'GIVE' IRAN $150 BILLION U.S. TAXPAYER DOLLARS AS PART

OF THE NUCLEAR DEAL. The Iranians only received their own money - they got back $50 billion in frozen lranian assets that were unfrozen by the U.S. for stopping their nuclear program.

This information is so easily available online.

1 hour ago, blaze master said:

Of course you're alright. You only pretend to be outraged all the time. Go on living.

I was referring to the Peter Sellers film, and you.

Just now, Lacessit said:

I was referring to the Peter Sellers film, and you.

Whatever you say my man. Keep up the good fight.

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Racism being fought, are you serious or deluded? Trump is one of the most racist Presidents ever, perhaps your selective memory has forgotten him depicting the Obamas as apes.

Freedom of speech, when Trump declares war on the media, and abuses reporters for asking questions about his multiple links to Epstein.

Business is booming? Only in AI, the massaged job figures tell a different story.

How do you know the gas spike is short term? You have a crystal ball that tells you so?

FFS, lay off whatever it is you are abusing - booze, pot, LSD, meth. It's killing what few brain cells you have left

Please provide examples of Trump being a racist.

Just now, Purdey said:

Deliberately misunderstood by those who want to pass the buck,

OBAMA DID NOT 'GIVE' IRAN $150 BILLION U.S. TAXPAYER DOLLARS AS PART

OF THE NUCLEAR DEAL. The Iranians only received their own money - they got back $50 billion in frozen lranian assets that were unfrozen by the U.S. for stopping their nuclear program.

This information is so easily available online.

Yes, the feckless Obama let them have the $50B, lifted sanctions and signed a deal that explicitly allowed them to keep developing their nuclear program.

The deal did nothing to stop their intercontinental ballistic missile program, and he "gave" them a CIA drone to jump-start their drone program and help China's.

Obama sure loved him some Iran...

Just now, blaze master said:

Whatever you say my man. Keep up the good fight.

It's amusing when you attempt to be patronizing. Like bringing a verbal knife to a gunfight.

Just now, Yellowtail said:

Please provide examples of Trump being a racist.

Are your attention span or reading skills so deficient you did not see the reference in my post of Trump depicting the Obamas as apes? You need help.

Just now, Lacessit said:

It's amusing when you attempt to be patronizing. Like bringing a verbal knife to a gunfight.

Still waiting for your examples of Trump being racist, and support for your claim that Iran's military is still 50% intact.

It's amusing the way you spew nonsense and call tor others to provide proof of their claims.

Edited May 5May 5 by Yellowtail