719 views and 29 replies. Shows that 680 can't be 4rsed to reply.

Can't really blame them.

Edited May 8May 8 by wil iam not

51 minutes ago, BilllyGOAT said:

The problem with all of these units is that you have to be into that bald beaver look. Otherwise, they are a complete non starter for some people. Until they figure out how to design these things with a full minge forest that you can trim to your liking, and that grows back after a full shaving session, a lot of people just aren't interested.

Never thought I would need an interpreter for a post written in English.............

7 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said:

I've never been to bed with an ugly women, but I've woke up with loads.

You have never gone to bed with an ugly woman, but you have woke up with loads of ugly women!

Well honestly, some of the best sex have been with arguable pretty women, and also women who could not stay faithful for a week or two. So, my take, you havent lived a interesting life if you never had a woman cheating on you :D

Edited May 8May 8 by Hummin

7 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

If the premise of the OP is that anyone who has ever been cheated by a woman in Thailand must be abysmally naive or gullible, this is simply not true. Thailand has its fair share of sociopathic and criminally inclined women who are capable of exhibiting almost zero behavioral clues that they are engaging in deception. All the behavioral science books and wily street smarts in the world aren't going to do a foreigner much good over here if the person you're dealing with doesn't have a conscience.

Even someone who has been here a long time could have difficulty picking up on clues that they are being deceived. Partly because of the language barrier; partly because of the tendency to make allowances for cultural differences. Even when you go back and evaluate someone's behavior in retrospect after you have caught them in a deception, oftentimes there are few clues to be found, especially if you're not that familiar with the language or culture.

You're not going to see the shifty eye movements, quavering voice, sweaty forehead, squirmy behavior that are stereotypically associated with deceptive behavior in the West. I will share that the one behavior that I have noticed on several occasions with different people is that the person lying will sometimes experience what appears to be a sudden twang of gastro-intestinal discomfort when they are telling the lie.

People need to be cautious here, and take plenty of time to get to know the person. You especially need to be very leery of entering into agreements where one side (you) performs their side of the bargain before the other side performs theirs. But it's not always the case that naivety on the part of the foreigner is the root cause of why you were taken advantage of. The hard truth is that there are people over here who are psychologically inclined towards criminal behavior and feel little remorse when they take advantage of people.

I'm not convinced about your "no clues" theory.

In many cases, men's egos blind them from seeing the clues. They have a hot girl 30 years younger than them and refuse to see signs that it's only for money because of their egos.

Also, regarding the last point, a lot of girls go straight for the jugular the minute you meet. I want support, I want 30K per month, I want a house in my village. So now you need to shell out 30K per month just to find out if the girl is not only after your money.

And the more invested you are, the less you see the signs of deception.

Gamma is the sharpest tool in the shed, maybe. He doesnt shave and shower to repel the girls so they won't steal all his money.

1 hour ago, BilllyGOAT said:

https://www.realdoll.com/realdoll-robot/ - Thank me later. Your bigger challenge is how will you bring one of these 55 kilo AI sex doll robots into your home without your neighbors spotting it.

I thought she'd just walk in and take over. After some time will own the gold mine and I'll get the shaft!

8 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

If the premise of the OP is that anyone who has ever been cheated by a woman in Thailand must be abysmally naive or gullible, this is simply not true. Thailand has its fair share of sociopathic and criminally inclined women who are capable of exhibiting almost zero behavioral clues that they are engaging in deception. All the behavioral science books and wily street smarts in the world aren't going to do a foreigner much good over here if the person you're dealing with doesn't have a conscience.

Even someone who has been here a long time could have difficulty picking up on clues that they are being deceived. Partly because of the language barrier; partly because of the tendency to make allowances for cultural differences. Even when you go back and evaluate someone's behavior in retrospect after you have caught them in a deception, oftentimes there are few clues to be found, especially if you're not that familiar with the language or culture.

You're not going to see the shifty eye movements, quavering voice, sweaty forehead, squirmy behavior that are stereotypically associated with deceptive behavior in the West. I will share that the one behavior that I have noticed on several occasions with different people is that the person lying will sometimes experience what appears to be a sudden twang of gastro-intestinal discomfort when they are telling the lie.

People need to be cautious here, and take plenty of time to get to know the person. You especially need to be very leery of entering into agreements where one side (you) performs their side of the bargain before the other side performs theirs. But it's not always the case that naivety on the part of the foreigner is the root cause of why you were taken advantage of. The hard truth is that there are people over here who are psychologically inclined towards criminal behavior and feel little remorse when they take advantage of people.

Tried to explain that to three here, but it went completely over their heads and put the blame elsewhere. Coverts know exactly what they're doing and why. You're a target, and the more decent you are, the more they go after you, as you're more trusting and giving, allowing some red flags to get through, thinking it can't be true.

They're so cute, charming and kind, so how could they be anything else? What you miss, but notice later when you're figured them out, is their eyes go black when they're busted, and you of course are the reason. They'll try and enlist others in their defense, the flying monkeys, who are also fooled by them, at least until they look back and see the signs were always there.

My mistake was what you mentioned. Not taking enough time to see the real them in all situations, especially stressful ones. That pretty face and slim body can hide someone so twisted from childhood they'll never turn around, so the best thing you can do is run. When you're out of their life, they'll continue their behavior with the next, and the next, and the next, until they get so old no one wants them anyway, and then they're all alone. Karma finally happens.

9 hours ago, KhunLA said:

First Thai wife got me for a few baht, but got it back +, when I sold the house without her involvement, since I had a POA that she signed. Damn tidy profit she passed up on for being an Ahole. House cost ~$20k and I sold it for $45k. Dumb ass.

Nice little score. Taking a little back is always fun.

9 hours ago, Celsius said:

Too long to read but half of AN posters admit to bring cucks, so....

My guess is that would be difficult for you...

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

You have never gone to bed with an ugly woman, but you have woke up with loads of ugly women!

Well honestly, some of the best sex have been with arguable pretty women, and also women who could not stay faithful for a week or two. So, my take, you havent lived a interesting life if you never had a woman cheating on you :D

Probably had loads of them cheating on me, but I'm a cheater too, so not bothered, like fish in the sea there are plenty of them, and I like fishing.

For the first 2 years I lived in Pattaya I used to put the birds on 24 hours notice, if they f****d up they were out with no redundancy payments. When I got sick of bar hopping I met this Thai lady in a bar on Beach Road. We've been married now for 22 years. I've never worried about getting old but when it happened I'm sure we need each other.

Edited May 8May 8 by NONG CHOK

7 hours ago, cdemundo said:

from vocabulary.com

"Replete" is generally introduced as a high-level vocabulary word in 12th-grade mastery or advanced, college-preparatory, and SAT/ACT prep levels (roughly ages 17–18). It is used to describe being abundantly filled or supplied, often appearing in sophisticated literature or advanced vocabulary lists to teach nuances of fullness. [1, 2, 3]

Though I guess not you, many here have completed the 12th grade and are not offended by the use of vocabulary at that level.

How dare you ....I went to a very good school.

It was approved !

2 hours ago, NONG CHOK said:

For the first 2 years I lived in Pattaya I used to put the birds on 24 hours notice, if they f****d up they were out with no redundancy payments. When I got sick of bar hopping I met this Thai lady in a bar on Beach Road. We've been married now for 22 years. I've never worried about getting old but when it happened I'm sure we need each other.

Similar to my story, I met a Thai girl at the swampy place where she worked, and kept in contact, got married in LOS and then in OZ we have been married for 23 years now. Living in OZ now, but still travel to LOS every year to see family

Cheated… is it about broken promises or disappointed expectations?

Definitely have been cheated out of some life-time, wasting months or even years in relationships which did not work out… But learned a lot in the process.

Cheated out of money? Not really. What I gave I always gave freely - knowing I would not get it back and there might be no quid pro quo in the end.

Yes, some did not work out but no big amounts $$$ involved.  One girl I gave money to attend English classes … and she did not.  Another I gave money to make a passport and she did not… worth the try, a test of sorts, enough reason to move on. no hard feelings.

Cheated on sexually? No idea, possible but unlikely, would not care either.  I‘m not perfect myself.

The one time I really invested worked out nicely so far. Happily married for almost 20 years. Two kids. So even if we split up (which is rather unlikely), all $$$ she would deserve and in the end its all inheritance for the kids anyway.

My moto in life is: love them and leave them, that way, you'll never get hurt.

59 minutes ago, ezzra said:

My moto in life is: love them and leave them, that way, you'll never get hurt.

59 minutes ago, ezzra said:

Contradiction in terms, as loving them means you care enough to stay. Using then leaving isn't the same. When things get tough, the ones who quit are those who really don't care about them as a person. if they are treating you well and haven't totally let themselves go, they are worthy of being a partner.

People aren't going to hurt you intentionally if they are decent people to begin with. Those that intentionally hurt belong with the same,, a s decent people don't deserve deceit and being used for whatever they bring to the relationship.

Two types of people. Those that appreciate the ones they choose as a partner and those who never look at anyone as a permanent partner.

Not to my knowledge...

23 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said:

I've never been to bed with an ugly women, but I've woke up with loads.

I've nrver been a homosexual but I have slept with one who was.

Many times during my 40 years in Thailand. Some of my fondest memories.

18 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

There are far too many guys who give Western women far too much credit. Many are unfaithful, many are conniving, many are in it just for the money, and many are unworthy. In addition many have had hundreds of men prior to engaging in their current relationship, and most will lie through their teeth and claim that they've only been with four men in their lifetime. Ha!

In general I considered Thai women to be infinitely superior to their Western counterparts on a dozen different levels.

Well said.

On 5/8/2026 at 1:14 AM, GammaGlobulin said:

Dear Folks,

Living here in Thailand, I have heard so many sad-sack stories about Farang being cheated by women.

And, in fact, this myth concerning the cheating of Farang by Thai women is one of the main drivers for so many YouTube videos, based on unsubstantiated evidence.

From my perspective, during the decades I have lived in Asia, I have always been treated fairly.

All too often, Google’s YouTube coughs up tales of woe, just for clicks.

But, have you ever been unfairly treated? Or, is it mostly the other way round?

No woman has ever stolen my house, for example, here in Asia.

When I first came to Asia, I never promised my house to any girl, in return for favors.

So then, what is wrong with this story about Farang being cheated? Do you think they were out to cheat the girls, at first, and then the girls somehow just got the better of them, and turned the tables on them?

Everyone loves a good story about Asian girls ripping off Farang guys. But, perhaps, these stories are only told with half-truths?

Mostly, and this is my guess, these stories derive from those who were failures in their former lives, ones who were such failures that they tried to come to Thailand to use their limited resources in a very asymmetric way, against a group who were even poorer than they.

In my opinion, if we treat others fairly, and with respect, then we are less likely to be cheated.

The worst one can do is to try to exploit anyone with less power.

When one does this, then there is always blowback… and…

When blowback happens, then some Farang misinterpret this as cheating, or manipulation, or, even, haha…. Gold Digging.

Take these YouTube stories of exploitation of Farang with a grain of salt. I always do.

Yet, I enjoy these stories. Probably, the Farang deserve their just deserts.

Ha!… what FOOLS…..

They thought they might eat a free lunch. But, then, the tables were turned. And they became the lunch.

Best regards,

Gamma

Note: During the past five decades in Asia, I have NEVER once been cheated by an Asian woman. Cheating Farang, meaning good Farang, is against their very nature. Believe me.

I love Asian girls, and always will.

Note2: Come to think of it.... I have NEVER been cheated by a woman in Asia. And, I have known a few.....quite a few.

HEY BOB2 Get a life

18 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

There are far too many guys who give Western women far too much credit. Many are unfaithful, many are conniving, many are in it just for the money, and many are unworthy. In addition many have had hundreds of men prior to engaging in their current relationship, and most will lie through their teeth and claim that they've only been with four men in their lifetime. Ha!

In general I considered Thai women to be infinitely superior to their Western counterparts on a dozen different levels.

More men are unfaithful everywhere, and women here are as likely to cheat as anywhere. They're also more interested in money first here, being more independent in the west.

Take money out of the equation here, and the local women still prefer their own kind, especially those younger by a decade or more.

Thailand is ranked highest in the world as far as infidelity. 50% at least admitted to being unfaithful, which means more are. Thailand is also ranked higher than most western countries as far as how many partners the women have. Lying is a national pastime here, with most thinking it's okay to lie.

As far as looks, I do like the Thai women look, but most nationalities have gorgeous women, and after age 50, locals here go downhill fast, with the exception of more of them staying slimmer than western counterparts, especially in the leg department. (lot's of squatting on farms and cooking)

On 5/8/2026 at 1:14 AM, GammaGlobulin said:

Dear Folks,

Living here in Thailand, I have heard so many sad-sack stories about Farang being cheated by women.

And, in fact, this myth concerning the cheating of Farang by Thai women is one of the main drivers for so many YouTube videos, based on unsubstantiated evidence.

From my perspective, during the decades I have lived in Asia, I have always been treated fairly.

All too often, Google’s YouTube coughs up tales of woe, just for clicks.

But, have you ever been unfairly treated? Or, is it mostly the other way round?

No woman has ever stolen my house, for example, here in Asia.

When I first came to Asia, I never promised my house to any girl, in return for favors.

So then, what is wrong with this story about Farang being cheated? Do you think they were out to cheat the girls, at first, and then the girls somehow just got the better of them, and turned the tables on them?

Everyone loves a good story about Asian girls ripping off Farang guys. But, perhaps, these stories are only told with half-truths?

Mostly, and this is my guess, these stories derive from those who were failures in their former lives, ones who were such failures that they tried to come to Thailand to use their limited resources in a very asymmetric way, against a group who were even poorer than they.

In my opinion, if we treat others fairly, and with respect, then we are less likely to be cheated.

The worst one can do is to try to exploit anyone with less power.

When one does this, then there is always blowback… and…

When blowback happens, then some Farang misinterpret this as cheating, or manipulation, or, even, haha…. Gold Digging.

Take these YouTube stories of exploitation of Farang with a grain of salt. I always do.

Yet, I enjoy these stories. Probably, the Farang deserve their just deserts.

Ha!… what FOOLS…..

They thought they might eat a free lunch. But, then, the tables were turned. And they became the lunch.

Best regards,

Gamma

Note: During the past five decades in Asia, I have NEVER once been cheated by an Asian woman. Cheating Farang, meaning good Farang, is against their very nature. Believe me.

I love Asian girls, and always will.

Note2: Come to think of it.... I have NEVER been cheated by a woman in Asia. And, I have known a few.....quite a few.

It is simple, farangs should use the same logic they use back home, the rules in Thailand are not any different to ones back home.

If you hire bar-girls then do not fall for any of their sob stories , they are not forced into the job, it is a choice and their aim is to get your money as quickly as possible, if anyone disagrees with this they you have already fallen under the spell of the girls and it is too late for you.😀

I stayed away from such women and found a decent hard working woman with her own money and income, and property, that was twenty years ago and we are still together here in Phuket.

If a very young beautiful woman says she loves you and you are old enough to be her father then do not fall for it as that is not possible no matter where you are in the world, those who do not agree, see what happens if your your money ever dries up.

I have come across many sob stories over the last 30+ years, house gone, the farang broke or with a lot less monthly than they started with, many thinking it was normal to have to support the woman, her kid, her parents and the sick buffalo due to the circles they moved and lived in, and as far as I have recorded, 95% of the women involved are from Isaan it seems.

The above common senses rules are the basic rules, they are other more complex ones of course but the simple rules seem to be the root cause of many of the marriage breakdowns as the farangs were doomed the minute they ignored them, it was only a matter of time.

On 5/8/2026 at 8:34 PM, Hummin said:

You have never gone to bed with an ugly woman, but you have woke up with loads of ugly women!

Well honestly, some of the best sex have been with arguable pretty women, and also women who could not stay faithful for a week or two. So, my take, you havent lived a interesting life if you never had a woman cheating on you :D

They sound like skanks

On 5/8/2026 at 2:02 AM, GammaGlobulin said:

Oh, wait...I forgot to mention one important caveat....

The following summary refines the sociological concepts of relationship asymmetry into more accessible, yet rigorous, terms.

1. The Confusion of Terms: Trade vs. Romance When a relationship begins with a significant gap in wealth or status, it often functions as an implicit contract. One party provides financial security, while the other provides companionship. The Conflict: The Farang often believes they are in a "romance" based on mutual affection, while the local partner may view it as a "livelihood" based on mutual utility. The Breakdown: When the financial expectations are not met, or when the local partner prioritizes their own survival, the Farang labels this as "cheating." In reality, the two parties were playing by different sets of rules from the start.

2. Strategic Balancing (The "Tax" on Power) In any situation where one person holds all the traditional power (money and legal status), the person with less power must find alternative ways to protect themselves. Agency: Using affection or persuasion to gain resources is not necessarily "malice"; it is often a survival tactic. The Reaction: If the dominant partner uses their wealth to control the other, the "blowback" is often a strategic extraction of funds. The dominant partner sees this as "theft," whereas it may be seen as a necessary "rebalancing" of an unfair situation.

3. The Ego Defense Mechanism Many individuals find it difficult to admit they were attempting to use their resources to "buy" a partner or gain an unfair advantage. Externalizing Blame: By calling the woman a "gold digger," the man shifts the focus away from his own attempt at exploitation. The Narrative: It is psychologically easier to be a "victim of a scam" than to admit to being an unsuccessful "buyer" in a transactional market.

4. Individual Desires vs. Collective Needs Western perspectives often focus on the individual (loyalty to the partner). Many Asian contexts prioritize the collective (loyalty to the family). The "Cheating" Label: If a woman takes money from a Farang to support her parents or children, the Farang views this as a betrayal of their personal bond. The Reality: The woman is often fulfilling what she considers a higher moral duty. The "cheating" is actually a clash between two different moral systems regarding how resources should be shared.

Concept: Simple Explanation Asymmetry: An imbalance where one person has the money and the other has the "leverage." Transactional Error: Expecting "free" love in a relationship built on financial support. Blowback: The natural consequence of trying to control someone through their poverty. Just Deserts: The result of entering a situation with bad intentions and losing the "game."

It's not so easy to be dreaming about an Asian girl, a subservient girl, and then find out that she is....just like the girl back home, the next-door girl you left.

A REAL human girl...and....

NOT A DOLL....

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When one comes from afar, and dreams of an Asian Doll....one forgets that women here are actually REAL HUMAN BEINGS......and in this context......what happens....????

In the context of asymmetric relationships, depersonalization functions as a psychological mechanism to manage the dissonance between perceived moral standards and the reality of a transactional exchange. It manifests in three primary ways:

1. Objectification by the Dominant Actor The dominant actor often engages in depersonalization by reducing the marginalized partner to a functional object or a demographic stereotype. Instead of acknowledging a complex individual with unique history and autonomy, the partner is viewed as a representative of a category (e.g., the Asian woman). This reductionism allows the dominant actor to ignore the partner's actual needs and motivations. When the partner eventually exercises agency for their own survival, the dominant actor perceives this as cheating because the object has failed to follow its prescribed role.

2. Defensive Dissociation by the Marginalized Actor For the person with less power, depersonalization serves as a psychological shield. When a relationship is fundamentally a tool for economic survival, the individual may detach their authentic self from the performance of affection required by the transaction. By depersonalizing the dominant partner—viewing them purely as a source of capital (a provider rather than a person)—the marginalized actor can execute strategic extraction of resources without the emotional or moral burden associated with personal betrayal.

3. Systematic Dehumanization The social ecosystem, including online forums and media, reinforces depersonalization by framing these interactions as a game or a scam. This environment encourages participants to enter the relationship with a depersonalized mindset. When both parties view each other as means to an end rather than human beings, the moral friction that typically prevents exploitation and betrayal is removed. The resulting conflict is not a failure of character, but the logical outcome of a relationship where neither party is truly seen by the other.

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On YouTube, we see so many fantasies about Asian women, and about the regrets of Farang men, when their dreams have not materialized.

Haha....what a joke.

I just hope that YOU are not one with unreasonable fantasies about Asian women, or women in general....

But....I very much doubt it......

I read the above comment after reading the first part of your comment on this subject and have already replied to the first part of your comment, now I saw this addition, but I see you have only included the negative set of possible relationships and none of the positive ones.

What about the cases where both of the people in the relationship are equal, one is not a puppet of the other, one is not owned, they are both independent financially and morally but have decided to be with each other freely, one reason being they like being together and they are mutually happy?

Not all Thais are poor and have poor parents who the children have to support and hence the farang has to support, they are millions of Thai female professional, small business owners out their who stand on their own two feet financially, but for some reason most farangs only mix with the ones who are not in that situation, maybe they are more easy to come by I suppose.

12 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

More men are unfaithful everywhere, and women here are as likely to cheat as anywhere. They're also more interested in money first here, being more independent in the west.

Take money out of the equation here, and the local women still prefer their own kind, especially those younger by a decade or more.

Thailand is ranked highest in the world as far as infidelity. 50% at least admitted to being unfaithful, which means more are. Thailand is also ranked higher than most western countries as far as how many partners the women have. Lying is a national pastime here, with most thinking it's okay to lie.

As far as looks, I do like the Thai women look, but most nationalities have gorgeous women, and after age 50, locals here go downhill fast, with the exception of more of them staying slimmer than western counterparts, especially in the leg department. (lot's of squatting on farms and cooking)

Who did the survey, who would admit to being unfaithful? Probably a Youtube thing.

12 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Take money out of the equation here, and the local women still prefer their own kind, especially those younger by a decade or more.

My reply: That is just a reflection on the type of women you have mixed with regarding you comment on money but yes of course Thai women prefer to be with a partner of they own age, you can see that by simply looking at Thai couples, there are very few very young girls married to old men. That job seems to be reserved to old farangs and young bar-girls or ex bar-girls.

5 hours ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

Who did the survey, who would admit to being unfaithful? Probably a Youtube thing.

Not what I have mixed with but what I heard for decades before moving here, from foreigners and locals alike. They also prefer their own kind no matter the age. Yes, in all nationalities there are those who like other nationalities, but it's a minority as far as actually being with them. Money of course makes it easier as the more independent a local woman is, the more likely she'll go with another local. There are many studies done about being unfaithful and many will admit it if it's done in confidence.

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

Not what I have mixed with but what I heard for decades before moving here, from foreigners and locals alike. They also prefer their own kind no matter the age. Yes, in all nationalities there are those who like other nationalities, but it's a minority as far as actually being with them. Money of course makes it easier as the more independent a local woman is, the more likely she'll go with another local. There are many studies done about being unfaithful and many will admit it if it's done in confidence.

Thai women don't like Thai men much at all. 90% say they are bad!

1 minute ago, Rockyroad said:

Thai women don't like Thai men much at all. 90% say they are bad!

Yet they still prefer them over all others, and seeing that most are married to other Thais................

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

Yet they still prefer them over all others, and seeing that most are married to other Thais................

That is just weight of numbers. 34 million Thai males and 300,000 farang males.

4 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

That is just weight of numbers. 34 million Thai males and 300,000 farang males.

Just a fact of life, as locals can relate more to locals than any others. Thai women can marry whoever they want but reality of living here and having someone you can readily talk and relate to is a lot easier than adapting to another culture entirely. Millions of farm families living together as a working unit is the majority of the population and is what the country's culture is. More marry foreigners each year because of a possible better life, but the large majority still stays with their own.